JMart's chance of racing Indianapolis?

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After that amazing ride last night, what do you guys think the chance of Honda keeping him on for Indianapolis or even the rest of the east coast is?
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Crush 3/12/2017 6:59am
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I don't know, but I don't think i'd be getting a hard on thinking he's good for the rest of the year in SX when he's a 2 time national champ who got a start and well at Daytona... Dude hasn't put together more than 4 or 5 SX races in the lites... He should be ready for outdoors, especially after they put him west coast for it and simultaneously jacked Craig.
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gnarwhip 3/12/2017 7:02am
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Why would he do all that testing for just one race? I know Dungey doesn't want him there haha
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sgrimmxdad 3/12/2017 7:15am
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Zero, he made the bike look good. They will ride that wave until Kenny gets back... He will be on one in 18... IMOTongue

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Question 3/12/2017 8:01am
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What a race! As long as he stays in the top 10 in points from this race, for me he earns that fill in ride. Honda would invest more in their future, nobody wins 2 national titles by luck. Nothing to lose, exactly like when they tried Canard and Seely. They have a bike to continuously learn and show as well, vs. the old 250. Martin is out of contention in the 250 sx championship, mainly due to racing incidents and bad starts. Same as the previous years, which makes me think he could well do like Baggett, who finished 4th in SX in his rookie season. I would not be surprised to see Martin finishing 3rd outdoors too if he has the opportunity. 2nd at Daytona is a similar start as Dungey, Roczen, Musquin or Canard, with a bang.
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SKlein 3/12/2017 8:09am
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http://racerxonline.com/2017/03/09/exhaust-the-spoiler

So how do you feel on the 450? Do you have any idea at all how you will do?
I feel pretty good on it, but I’ve only ridden it about five times. It’s just a fun one-off deal. I was actually pretty bummed I was going to miss Daytona, so getting this chance is pretty bad ass. I have to thank Honda for that opportunity. It’s just going to be fun. So I just want to mix it up with the front-runners and see what I’ve got.

Take that for what it's worth.
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51xc 3/12/2017 8:23am
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gnarwhip wrote:
Why would he do all that testing for just one race? I know Dungey doesn't want him there haha
because he will race the very same bike next year? meaning he'll start testing it in 6 months time anyways
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andyman 3/12/2017 8:25am
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Are you guys sure that he is moving up in 18'?
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Travis_Hudson 3/12/2017 8:49am
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It would be best for his stock, if he just walked away on that note and got ready for outdoors. If your only result is a 2.......you have some some serious negotiation power come fall.
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CarlinoJoeVideo 3/12/2017 8:59am
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Daytona is a big event for Honda, they are the title sponsor. They needed 2 bikes racing. It was a great story for them to talk about and worked out well with the podium finish.
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andyman wrote:
Are you guys sure that he is moving up in 18'?
Yes,, Geico 450,funded by factory Honda.
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cali11 3/12/2017 10:17am
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He had a good ride, last night. I just don't see him even close, to a top 5 on a regular SX track.
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ky_savage 3/12/2017 10:25am
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Crush wrote:
I don't know, but I don't think i'd be getting a hard on thinking he's good for the rest of the year in SX when he's...
I don't know, but I don't think i'd be getting a hard on thinking he's good for the rest of the year in SX when he's a 2 time national champ who got a start and well at Daytona... Dude hasn't put together more than 4 or 5 SX races in the lites... He should be ready for outdoors, especially after they put him west coast for it and simultaneously jacked Craig.
That's exactly what I was thinking last night. If this was a conventional SX race I doubt he finishes anywhere near the podium IMO.
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Juice_Mann 3/12/2017 10:30am
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I don't think anyone thought the result would be this good. Honda would be silly not to put him back on it for a few more races.
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sgrimmxdad wrote:
Zero, he made the bike look good. They will ride that wave until Kenny gets back... He will be on one in 18... IMOTongue
he made the bike look good? You know Kenny beat everyone on it too before he got injured right?
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kiwifan 3/12/2017 10:32am
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andyman wrote:
Are you guys sure that he is moving up in 18'?
mxb2 wrote:
Yes,, Geico 450,funded by factory Honda.
yes thats my understanding of what his contract has, it was made public when he first signed (that he would be on a 450 in 18) with Geico
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51xc 3/12/2017 10:57am
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andyman wrote:
Are you guys sure that he is moving up in 18'?
mxb2 wrote:
Yes,, Geico 450,funded by factory Honda.
kiwifan wrote:
yes thats my understanding of what his contract has, it was made public when he first signed (that he would be on a 450 in 18)...
yes thats my understanding of what his contract has, it was made public when he first signed (that he would be on a 450 in 18) with Geico
he even said it in a pre daytona racer x interview.




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oshow 3/12/2017 10:59am
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RD757 wrote:
After that amazing ride last night, what do you guys think the chance of Honda keeping him on for Indianapolis or even the rest of the...
After that amazing ride last night, what do you guys think the chance of Honda keeping him on for Indianapolis or even the rest of the east coast is?
The rest of the SX's aren't Daytona style... it's amazing how much better he does at Daytona (Outdoor) than anywhere else
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chrisg19 3/12/2017 11:59am
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oshow wrote:
The rest of the SX's aren't Daytona style... it's amazing how much better he does at Daytona (Outdoor) than anywhere else
I agree, Daytona is a one off event, and Martin has never been a great Supercross rider. I wonder what will happen when outdoors roll around. Roczen still has a long road ahead of him with recovery. I doubt he will be ready to go with the start of the outdoors. I guess we will see as time goes by, but I can't imagine Honda is not going to want someone on that bike.
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Motoxdoc 3/12/2017 12:01pm
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RD757 wrote:
After that amazing ride last night, what do you guys think the chance of Honda keeping him on for Indianapolis or even the rest of the...
After that amazing ride last night, what do you guys think the chance of Honda keeping him on for Indianapolis or even the rest of the east coast is?
....about the same as his chances of getting second at Daytona SX!

That's what they do....they did it with Seely.
abomination 3/12/2017 12:08pm
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mxb2 wrote:
Yes,, Geico 450,funded by factory Honda.
kiwifan wrote:
yes thats my understanding of what his contract has, it was made public when he first signed (that he would be on a 450 in 18)...
yes thats my understanding of what his contract has, it was made public when he first signed (that he would be on a 450 in 18) with Geico
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he even said it in a pre daytona racer x interview. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/03/12/180976/s1200_IMG_2546.jpg[/img]
he even said it in a pre daytona racer x interview.




can't recall—is this how malcom spoke about his 450 geico ride?
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It is amazing the difference of treatment on this board regarding 2 450 newcomers: Webb finishes 2nd and is considered as God's child and next MC, while Martin has 2 national titles, proved some sx (and bad starts) skills, finish 2nd at the biggest race of the year in 450 after the Mxdn, then it is like "well yeah it is not that bad". How many will be butt hurt again when Martin run down Webb again during the Nationals?
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Question wrote:
It is amazing the difference of treatment on this board regarding 2 450 newcomers: Webb finishes 2nd and is considered as God's child and next MC...
It is amazing the difference of treatment on this board regarding 2 450 newcomers: Webb finishes 2nd and is considered as God's child and next MC, while Martin has 2 national titles, proved some sx (and bad starts) skills, finish 2nd at the biggest race of the year in 450 after the Mxdn, then it is like "well yeah it is not that bad". How many will be butt hurt again when Martin run down Webb again during the Nationals?
How many SX titles does Webb have? Martin? Webb beat him outdoors too....
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daemon616 3/12/2017 12:18pm
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Slim to none. It's a business. The only reason he rode in the first place is west coast wasn't going great and KROC was out and it's a Honda event.
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Motoxdoc 3/12/2017 12:35pm
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daemon616 wrote:
Slim to none. It's a business. The only reason he rode in the first place is west coast wasn't going great and KROC was out and...
Slim to none. It's a business. The only reason he rode in the first place is west coast wasn't going great and KROC was out and it's a Honda event.
Well 2 of those things you mention are still in play, and as for the 3rd...the Honda race team (not the promoter) probably thinks EVERY SX is a "Honda event." Also, I doubt Honda would mind having some more good exposure. I hope he continues on the 450.
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daemon616 3/12/2017 12:37pm
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daemon616 wrote:
Slim to none. It's a business. The only reason he rode in the first place is west coast wasn't going great and KROC was out and...
Slim to none. It's a business. The only reason he rode in the first place is west coast wasn't going great and KROC was out and it's a Honda event.
Motoxdoc wrote:
Well 2 of those things you mention are still in play, and as for the 3rd...the Honda race team (not the promoter) probably thinks EVERY SX...
Well 2 of those things you mention are still in play, and as for the 3rd...the Honda race team (not the promoter) probably thinks EVERY SX is a "Honda event." Also, I doubt Honda would mind having some more good exposure. I hope he continues on the 450.
ROFL No they don't. As evident they didn't fill KROC's ride and said they weren't going to.
Todd_Dooley 3/12/2017 12:55pm
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J-mart can ride SX, we've seen him pass Musquin. His qualifying times are usually very good. For him, he just needs a start or a least to be in the mix from the beginning, then he's a completely different rider. He was faster than CC in off season testing.
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ML512 3/12/2017 1:15pm
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abomination wrote:
can't recall—is this how malcom spoke about his 450 geico ride?
Malcolm never had a 450 deal in place, he had a 250 Supercrss-only contract for one year.
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oshow 3/12/2017 1:23pm
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oshow wrote:
The rest of the SX's aren't Daytona style... it's amazing how much better he does at Daytona (Outdoor) than anywhere else
chrisg19 wrote:
I agree, Daytona is a one off event, and Martin has never been a great Supercross rider. I wonder what will happen when outdoors roll around...
I agree, Daytona is a one off event, and Martin has never been a great Supercross rider. I wonder what will happen when outdoors roll around. Roczen still has a long road ahead of him with recovery. I doubt he will be ready to go with the start of the outdoors. I guess we will see as time goes by, but I can't imagine Honda is not going to want someone on that bike.
That's what I was getting at. The JMart I saw last night is not the regular SX JMart he was outstanding, if Eli would have started 5th JMart would have won last night.

And you will not see Roczen before A1 2018

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