JGR probably won't find another top rider

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Edited Date/Time 7/5/2012 4:04am
Now that Millsaps is gone for next year, they will be hard pressed to find another top 5 rider willing to get spit off of that bike and risk injury, unless Yamaha changes their design, or JGR cuts ties with Yamaha...IMO.
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7/1/2012 6:27pm Edited Date/Time 7/1/2012 6:33pm
Sipes on a JGR 450 would be cool to see in SX,he has gotten good.
He is a good SX rider and could be top 10 or better in the 450 SX class I would assume.
Cunningham could be another prospect or even Wharton...when they move up.

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FastEddy wrote:
Sipes on a JGR 450 would be cool to see in SX,he has gotten good. He is a good SX rider and could be top 10...
Sipes on a JGR 450 would be cool to see in SX,he has gotten good.
He is a good SX rider and could be top 10 or better in the 450 SX class I would assume.
Cunningham could be another prospect or even Wharton...when they move up.
I honestly though Sipes would do better than he is on a 450. Granted, he's been injured, only time will tell.


BTW- I'm talkin top 5 potential guy here.
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machine wrote:
I honestly though Sipes would do better than he is on a 450. Granted, he's been injured, only time will tell. BTW- I'm talkin top 5...
I honestly though Sipes would do better than he is on a 450. Granted, he's been injured, only time will tell.


BTW- I'm talkin top 5 potential guy here.
Dude... sorry for bustin your grapes but the "bike" issue is way overblown.
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7/1/2012 6:37pm Edited Date/Time 7/1/2012 6:37pm
JGR had there chance with James. They need to lure one of the upcomng lites rider to have a chance at winning. None of he top 5 would ride that Yamaha 450.
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machine wrote:
I honestly though Sipes would do better than he is on a 450. Granted, he's been injured, only time will tell. BTW- I'm talkin top 5...
I honestly though Sipes would do better than he is on a 450. Granted, he's been injured, only time will tell.


BTW- I'm talkin top 5 potential guy here.
Dude... sorry for bustin your grapes but the "bike" issue is way overblown.
Your right, that's why they keep making after market parts to change the motor location, i know, just minor adjustments right? Oh, and the fact that JGR moved the motor forward as well.......... your right nothing to see here, move along.
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Metcalfe, Sipes, Brayton (again) are probably the top 3 guys not in that order.
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Well, I sure hope JGR doesn't go away- they seem like a great organization.
Who can they sign for 2013 that can win a supercross?
Bubba- been there, done that.
Shorty- signed with McBrooks for 2013
Canard- signed with Factory Honda through 2014
Barcia- sign with Factory Honda
Dungey- signed with KTM
RV- if he liked the bike and he was paid enough. Maybe?
Reed- if he can't sign RV to his team? Maybe he would race the YZ for enough money?
Wilson- did he sign with KTM? Wilson is probably JGR's best opportunity.
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If Team Honda does not sign Canard, JGR should go after him.

Yamaha has a YZ450F brand problem. The JS7 is a PR disaster.
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Xeno wrote:
Well, I sure hope JGR doesn't go away- they seem like a great organization. Who can they sign for 2013 that can win a supercross? Bubba-...
Well, I sure hope JGR doesn't go away- they seem like a great organization.
Who can they sign for 2013 that can win a supercross?
Bubba- been there, done that.
Shorty- signed with McBrooks for 2013
Canard- signed with Factory Honda through 2014
Barcia- sign with Factory Honda
Dungey- signed with KTM
RV- if he liked the bike and he was paid enough. Maybe?
Reed- if he can't sign RV to his team? Maybe he would race the YZ for enough money?
Wilson- did he sign with KTM? Wilson is probably JGR's best opportunity.
Has Canard signed for 2013? I thought he had not...
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Wishful thinking on my part?
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7/1/2012 7:03pm Edited Date/Time 7/1/2012 7:08pm
FastEddy wrote:
Sipes on a JGR 450 would be cool to see in SX,he has gotten good. He is a good SX rider and could be top 10...
Sipes on a JGR 450 would be cool to see in SX,he has gotten good.
He is a good SX rider and could be top 10 or better in the 450 SX class I would assume.
Cunningham could be another prospect or even Wharton...when they move up.
machine wrote:
I honestly though Sipes would do better than he is on a 450. Granted, he's been injured, only time will tell. BTW- I'm talkin top 5...
I honestly though Sipes would do better than he is on a 450. Granted, he's been injured, only time will tell.


BTW- I'm talkin top 5 potential guy here.
The only other guy that comes to mind.
I will put it this way.....
I have honestly heard some stories of Regal hauling major ass at SX practice tracks back when him & JS7 were at L&M.
Like running James race pace/speed on that YZ450 F.
In the right zone and confident he could be a consistent top 5 within time,from what I have heard,his speed is there and he is capable(putting it all together on race night is a whole different story).
There are a couple guys that are close to him that post on here that can more then likely back up what I said.
It's just hear-say (to me) ,but I don't think they would just talk to talk.So I figured I would throw that out there. Smile
Should be interesting to see what happens with JGR for 2013 as far as riders go and results.
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The guys who have won a supercross during the last 2 or 3 years get all the dough, don't they?
Aside from Barcia and maybe Wilson, nobody is in a hurry to sign these other racers.
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Xeno wrote:
Well, I sure hope JGR doesn't go away- they seem like a great organization. Who can they sign for 2013 that can win a supercross? Bubba-...
Well, I sure hope JGR doesn't go away- they seem like a great organization.
Who can they sign for 2013 that can win a supercross?
Bubba- been there, done that.
Shorty- signed with McBrooks for 2013
Canard- signed with Factory Honda through 2014
Barcia- sign with Factory Honda
Dungey- signed with KTM
RV- if he liked the bike and he was paid enough. Maybe?
Reed- if he can't sign RV to his team? Maybe he would race the YZ for enough money?
Wilson- did he sign with KTM? Wilson is probably JGR's best opportunity.
Reed? He didn't like the YZ when everyone thought it was a good bike. He's got enough money that he doesn't need the new YZ in his equation.
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when they switch brands they will

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JGR and Yamaha doesn't spend millions of dollars to sell bikes.

It's all about name branding.
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They should sign Ryan Sipes and Kyle Chisolm.

Sipes has won Lites sx mains and Chisolm was happier(and better) on the YZ than he is on the KX. Both likeable hard workin guys.

A healthy Sipes *could* be a top 5 guy. Chisolm, top 7.
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jmar wrote:
JGR and Yamaha doesn't spend millions of dollars to sell bikes.

It's all about name branding.
Brand Image + Brand Awareness = Brand Equity.

In essence, the JS7 and YZ450F debacle has hurt the YAMAHA YZ450F's image. Therefore, there is an negative effect on the brand.

Does not take millions to hurt or help a brand.
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They should sign Ryan Sipes and Kyle Chisolm. Sipes has won Lites sx mains and Chisolm was happier(and better) on the YZ than he is on...
They should sign Ryan Sipes and Kyle Chisolm.

Sipes has won Lites sx mains and Chisolm was happier(and better) on the YZ than he is on the KX. Both likeable hard workin guys.

A healthy Sipes *could* be a top 5 guy. Chisolm, top 7.
The Yamaha works well for some. And Not so good for others.

No different than the KTM.
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they should get off that piece of shit and switch to any other brand

problem solved

dungey said he wouldnt even talk to JGR cause' of the yzf450
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7/1/2012 8:13pm Edited Date/Time 7/1/2012 8:13pm
They'll go after Wilson and Canard, although I think Canard ends up at Honda. Brayton will definitely be back at JGR if he doesn't get resigned by Honda, but I think in the end it will be Canard, Brayton and Barcia at Honda.

Wilson has too many other options. Would be surprised to see him at JGR.

I believe Tomac is available. He would be interesting as he's good both in and outdoors and he's a bigger guy which might work for the bike better.

Metcalfe would be OK I guess. He would give them a top 10 guy, maybe better outdoors. I just see him as a second tier candidate since the potential isn't super high for the future.

Chisolm would also be a good 2nd rider.
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Hando wrote:
they should get off that piece of shit and switch to any other brand problem solved dungey said he wouldnt even talk to JGR cause' of...
they should get off that piece of shit and switch to any other brand

problem solved

dungey said he wouldnt even talk to JGR cause' of the yzf450
Hando.... is that a true statement?
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Matthes said it.

It must be true.

hey....its no secret alot of people in the pro ranks arent yz450f fans....would the bike make me or 99% of the people on this forum slower..i doubt it..

just statin' what im seeing
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They'll go after Wilson and Canard, although I think Canard ends up at Honda. Brayton will definitely be back at JGR if he doesn't get resigned...
They'll go after Wilson and Canard, although I think Canard ends up at Honda. Brayton will definitely be back at JGR if he doesn't get resigned by Honda, but I think in the end it will be Canard, Brayton and Barcia at Honda.

Wilson has too many other options. Would be surprised to see him at JGR.

I believe Tomac is available. He would be interesting as he's good both in and outdoors and he's a bigger guy which might work for the bike better.

Metcalfe would be OK I guess. He would give them a top 10 guy, maybe better outdoors. I just see him as a second tier candidate since the potential isn't super high for the future.

Chisolm would also be a good 2nd rider.
Tomac stated he will be in the 250F class again. If not, Honda via factory Honda or 22Motorsports will sign Tomac before it signs JB10.
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Matthes said it. It must be true. hey....its no secret alot of people in the pro ranks arent yz450f fans....would the bike make me or 99%...
Matthes said it.

It must be true.

hey....its no secret alot of people in the pro ranks arent yz450f fans....would the bike make me or 99% of the people on this forum slower..i doubt it..

just statin' what im seeing
Yeahhh..... I do not know about Matthes. However, if his claim is true, it adds evidence to Yamaha has a 450F image problem.
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Can Wilson win a 450 SX on a JGR Yamaha?
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The blue 450's are sh&t. Too bad the mega-crossover enterprise JGR is married to the POS.
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bd wrote:
Tomac stated he will be in the 250F class again. If not, Honda via factory Honda or 22Motorsports will sign Tomac before it signs JB10.
Yes, I'd say they would end up keeping Tomac over Brayton, but I've heard it's open at this point.

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