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10/31/2018 9:42 AM

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10/31/2018 9:44 AM

Maybe Matthes can get him set up with EKS brand! laughing

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10/31/2018 9:48 AM

craigathan404 wrote:

Maybe Matthes can get him set up with EKS brand! laughing

I wonder if this means that Dragon is pulling back from moto, JA got a better offer from Oakley/another brand or Dragon got another rider for less money

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10/31/2018 9:52 AM

Dragon has announced they are withdrawing from moto. So expect the whole team to change

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10/31/2018 9:56 AM

Cygrace74 wrote:

Dragon has announced they are withdrawing from moto. So expect the whole team to change

Ah. Haven't seen that yet.

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10/31/2018 10:01 AM

Bummer indeed. I really like Dragon moto goggles.

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10/31/2018 10:14 AM

If i'm not mistaken Dragon is still part of Oakley a.k.a. luxotica.

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10/31/2018 10:33 AM

RonJon wrote:

If i'm not mistaken Dragon is still part of Oakley a.k.a. luxotica.

Dragon is a part of Marchon Eyewear, one of the few group competitors to Luxottica. So it's not under the same ownership.

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10/31/2018 10:45 AM

What other pro rider wore Dragon? I only saw the product with Anderson?

Whatever brand Jason is wearing this year had to write a big check im sure, Who else besides Oakley can afford him?

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10/31/2018 10:47 AM

Brent wrote:

What other pro rider wore Dragon? I only saw the product with Anderson?

Whatever brand Jason is wearing this year had to ...more

I wish SPY had the dollars to pay him. Especially since their new goggle is legit.

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10/31/2018 11:03 AM
Edited Date/Time: 10/31/2018 11:17 AM

Brent wrote:

What other pro rider wore Dragon? I only saw the product with Anderson?

Whatever brand Jason is wearing this year had to ...more

The whole Rockstar Husqvarna team wore them with the exception of Osborne who was able to do his own deal and went with Oakley.

Edit: Just to clarify I believe Anderson's deal with Dragon was a personal deal but the 250 side had a team deal with them as well. I may be wrong on all this, though.

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10/31/2018 11:09 AM
Edited Date/Time: 10/31/2018 1:50 PM

Brent wrote:

What other pro rider wore Dragon? I only saw the product with Anderson?

Whatever brand Jason is wearing this year had to ...more

jorgechavez wrote:

The whole Rockstar Husqvarna team wore them with the exception of Osborne who was able to do his own deal and went with ...more

When he signed his 450 deal, he gained the ability to sign all his own deals. He was able to go Oakley for his last 250 year but had to retain the Airoh helmet, for 2019 he will wear a Fly helmet as he signed his own deal with Fly for
gear and helmets, separate from the team contract.

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10/31/2018 11:18 AM

Bummer; I liked Dragon and wear them as well.

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10/31/2018 11:19 AM

Are head to toe deals the reason that some companies just can't compete? Seems like everyone has to make everything or they don't last.

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10/31/2018 11:22 AM

nascarnate326 wrote:

Are head to toe deals the reason that some companies just can't compete? Seems like everyone has to make everything or they ...more

I'm not sure on that, 100% and Oakley seem to be doing quite well.

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10/31/2018 11:28 AM

Where did 100% come from? They were unheard of back in the day and I am surprised they got such a strong place in the market that Oakley and co dominated...

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10/31/2018 11:39 AM

Beeby wrote:

Where did 100% come from? They were unheard of back in the day and I am surprised they got such a strong place in the market ...more

Unheard of back in the day? I remember always seeing 100% stickers on bikes back in the 90's when I was a kid. They were my favorite sticker to put on my bikes back then.

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10/31/2018 11:41 AM

nascarnate326 wrote:

Are head to toe deals the reason that some companies just can't compete? Seems like everyone has to make everything or they ...more

Really the only brand out there doing head to toe deals is Fox/Shift. Alpinestars is getting closer with helmets now, and I heard there might be a goggle in their future.

As for pro deals:

Fly likes to do helmet and gear deals when possible.

Thor does gear only these days.

O’Neal gear only...

Shot gear only...

Answer gear only...

Moose gear only...

Seven gear only...

TLD gear and helmet.

Just1 gear, goggles and helmets...but that’s Savatgy only for now.

Scott, 100%, Oakley, EKS Brand and a few smaller brands do goggle only deals.

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10/31/2018 11:43 AM

nascarnate326 wrote:

Are head to toe deals the reason that some companies just can't compete? Seems like everyone has to make everything or they ...more

ML512 wrote:

Really the only brand out there doing head to toe deals is Fox/Shift. Alpinestars is getting closer with helmets now, and I ...more

Why did Thor stop the helmet deals?

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10/31/2018 11:58 AM

nascarnate326 wrote:

Are head to toe deals the reason that some companies just can't compete? Seems like everyone has to make everything or they ...more

ML512 wrote:

Really the only brand out there doing head to toe deals is Fox/Shift. Alpinestars is getting closer with helmets now, and I ...more

mattyhamz2 wrote:

Why did Thor stop the helmet deals?

I’d imagine it has a lot to do with the licensing deals with actual manufacturers. Several years ago it became mandatory for helmet manufacturers to provide $25mil in liability before any design production could begin. Several brands left the market, others stayed but stopped producing their own and licensed with bigger companies. Bell makes several lines. Some current helmets on the market are actually Bell designs they nixed, then sold to other brands.

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10/31/2018 12:00 PM

nascarnate326 wrote:

Are head to toe deals the reason that some companies just can't compete? Seems like everyone has to make everything or they ...more

ML512 wrote:

Really the only brand out there doing head to toe deals is Fox/Shift. Alpinestars is getting closer with helmets now, and I ...more

mattyhamz2 wrote:

Why did Thor stop the helmet deals?

Their older Force is slowly making its way off the market but I’ve heard they’ve got something new in the works, I’d expect to see them back on pros with a new high end lid by 2020. Maybe later next year?

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10/31/2018 1:08 PM

What does Dragon make- Skinny jeans??

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10/31/2018 1:32 PM

Beeby wrote:

Where did 100% come from? They were unheard of back in the day and I am surprised they got such a strong place in the market ...more

mattyhamz2 wrote:

Unheard of back in the day? I remember always seeing 100% stickers on bikes back in the 90's when I was a kid. They were my ...more

80s you young whippersnapper.

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My post is my opinion. If you don't agree with it, I'm OK with it.

10/31/2018 1:34 PM

Beeby wrote:

Where did 100% come from? They were unheard of back in the day and I am surprised they got such a strong place in the market ...more

mattyhamz2 wrote:

Unheard of back in the day? I remember always seeing 100% stickers on bikes back in the 90's when I was a kid. They were my ...more

Moto96 wrote:

80s you young whippersnapper.

I knew they were around before that lol. Just going off of my experience tongue

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10/31/2018 1:48 PM

Brent wrote:

What other pro rider wore Dragon? I only saw the product with Anderson?

Whatever brand Jason is wearing this year had to ...more

jorgechavez wrote:

The whole Rockstar Husqvarna team wore them with the exception of Osborne who was able to do his own deal and went with ...more

ML512 wrote:

When he signed his 450 deal, he gained the ability to sign all his own deals. He was able to go Oakley for his last 250 year ...more

Which deal did they seal when that deal was made? Not sure on that whole deal.

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10/31/2018 2:06 PM

Beeby wrote:

Where did 100% come from? They were unheard of back in the day and I am surprised they got such a strong place in the market ...more

mattyhamz2 wrote:

Unheard of back in the day? I remember always seeing 100% stickers on bikes back in the 90's when I was a kid. They were my ...more

Ok well perhaps I should clarify. I grew up in the UK and never heard of them. Perhaps they were a thing here in the US

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10/31/2018 2:14 PM

Beeby wrote:

Where did 100% come from? They were unheard of back in the day and I am surprised they got such a strong place in the market ...more

mattyhamz2 wrote:

Unheard of back in the day? I remember always seeing 100% stickers on bikes back in the 90's when I was a kid. They were my ...more

Beeby wrote:

Ok well perhaps I should clarify. I grew up in the UK and never heard of them. Perhaps they were a thing here in the US

That makes a little more sense then tongue

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10/31/2018 2:29 PM

Beeby wrote:

Where did 100% come from? They were unheard of back in the day and I am surprised they got such a strong place in the market ...more

Bevo and a couple others from Scott took the brand and helped turn it around if I'm not mistaken.

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10/31/2018 2:49 PM
Edited Date/Time: 10/31/2018 2:55 PM

Beeby wrote:

Where did 100% come from? They were unheard of back in the day and I am surprised they got such a strong place in the market ...more

Ludo Boinnard & Marc Blanchard, the guys who founded and ran ONE Industries, bought the brand name from Drew Lien and resurrected it.

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10/31/2018 3:39 PM

ML512 wrote:

Their older Force is slowly making its way off the market but I’ve heard they’ve got something new in the works, I’d expect to ...more

The Verge was the most current high end helmet but it went discontinued for the 19 season. I’d expect a new model next year.

As for not having many guys in the helmet recently it’s more due to guys getting a ton of money just for a helmet deal and it didn’t really add up to get them in the helmet too. I’d expect more Thor guys in the astars helmet in the future like AP is doing and as we get a more high end helmet on the market then getting guys back into that.

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