"It's just a dirt bike race" ???

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mx216 3/19/2017 11:59am
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WOW, some of you guys seriously need help......
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rancor19 3/19/2017 12:43pm
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I wasn't bashing. I thought it was funny, actually. Wouldn't be surprised if Roger tells him the same thing...
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Dtat720 3/19/2017 1:09pm
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CrGuy2T wrote:
Tomac will have a bad night soon. It's comming more than likely will be worse than a 3-5th place finish.
Thats not a given. Who is to say Tomac hasnt found his groove and is about to start a run like Dungey has. Nobody knows.
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Dtat720 3/19/2017 1:50pm
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CrGuy2T wrote:
Tomac will have a bad night soon. It's comming more than likely will be worse than a 3-5th place finish.
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wired4speed 3/19/2017 1:57pm
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I loved the comment...why waste time on frustration. Dungey knows how to win MX and SX Championships and Main Events. He was content to finish in the top 3 and knows that he just has to keep finding that speed and consistency. In the end it was only a dirt bike race...good way to keep it fun.
wired4speed 3/19/2017 2:06pm
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Can't a guy retire with respect anymore in this sport? The JS hate is justified but not Dungey.
The JS hate is justified?...lol. No, there's no hate that's justified unless you had the balls to take advantage of a factory prepped 250f, train to be the best and then have James Stewart breeze by you on a 125cc bike without a front brake. You could then hate him or admire his dedication as you removed a tear off and settled into a more comfortable pace. I can't think of one rider past or pressent that anyone can justify hating....If you hate him get your couch potato ass off the couch, knock off a couple of push ups and show him how it's done on the track
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Not the best time to say it but I fully agree and that is somewhat i guess the recipie from his consistency. He won't go all out if the risk is too high. That is why he won so many championships and also why he lost a few with RV. 12 points difference and still a lot of racing left.

What I am surprised of is Musquin taking important points. To light the fire in Dungey, yes, but i am surprised he went for the 2nd spot. Maybe that will upset Dungey then he can fight more against Tomac. Another topic but i am so surprised by Anderson this year: i was really thinking he would give a run to the championship.
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DPR250R 3/19/2017 3:59pm
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Moto810 wrote:
At a certain point in life most people grow up. They figure out it is better to back it down just a bit rather than to...
At a certain point in life most people grow up. They figure out it is better to back it down just a bit rather than to live on the edge. It sounds like Dungey is at that point as Reed is as well. Nothing wrong with knowing when not to push it. He has little to gain and much to loose now!

Most of us Vet riders have also learned this fact.
Imagine being able to not push it and still be the points leader.
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DPR250R 3/19/2017 4:00pm
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Not the best time to say it but I fully agree and that is somewhat i guess the recipie from his consistency. He won't go all...
Not the best time to say it but I fully agree and that is somewhat i guess the recipie from his consistency. He won't go all out if the risk is too high. That is why he won so many championships and also why he lost a few with RV. 12 points difference and still a lot of racing left.

What I am surprised of is Musquin taking important points. To light the fire in Dungey, yes, but i am surprised he went for the 2nd spot. Maybe that will upset Dungey then he can fight more against Tomac. Another topic but i am so surprised by Anderson this year: i was really thinking he would give a run to the championship.
I thought that too but if he was able to catch Tomac it would have been better for RD.

Edit - If MM was able to catch ET.
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Old&New wrote:
Can't a guy retire with respect anymore in this sport? The JS hate is justified but not Dungey.
wired4speed wrote:
The JS hate is justified?...lol. No, there's no hate that's justified unless you had the balls to take advantage of a factory prepped 250f, train to...
The JS hate is justified?...lol. No, there's no hate that's justified unless you had the balls to take advantage of a factory prepped 250f, train to be the best and then have James Stewart breeze by you on a 125cc bike without a front brake. You could then hate him or admire his dedication as you removed a tear off and settled into a more comfortable pace. I can't think of one rider past or pressent that anyone can justify hating....If you hate him get your couch potato ass off the couch, knock off a couple of push ups and show him how it's done on the track
Huh maybe he banged his old lady?
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CalRMX 3/20/2017 7:36am
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rancor19 wrote:
Well his conditioning is definitely better. I actually [i]drink[/i] energy drinks to get through the workday. I'll bet I'm better at MY job than he is...
Well his conditioning is definitely better. I actually drink energy drinks to get through the workday.

I'll bet I'm better at MY job than he is. So there...
If your a fluffer at a gay porn film set, I'd have to agree.
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IWreckALot 3/20/2017 7:57am
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TMessi111 wrote:
I wasn't at the race and couldn't see what was going on from them not showing the lead group most of the race, but what was...
I wasn't at the race and couldn't see what was going on from them not showing the lead group most of the race, but what was causing the yo yo from Dungey and Tomacs gap? Was Dungey faster somewhere or was Eli dealing with more ambitious lappers? Just curious if Eli was making mistakes or if he was being interfered with.
Dungey had a pretty good bobble in the whoops and seemed like that made him tone it down.

He was also within :03 until the 7:00 to go mark and he must have had a couple of other sketchy moments that made him back it down.

I took the comment as Dungey just fishing for something to say. That whole podium speech was a bit off for him. He didn't know what to say and just capped it off with more random thoughts to try to get through the interview. But I also think he's looking forward to getting out of the clown show. 27 laps on a track that is already chewed up when the gate drops has got to be a bit demoralizing.

I think they need to cap these races at X number of laps. Maybe 23 or 25.

Or at least if they see the lap times are going to push the race that long, do more maintenance after the 250 race.
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Ted722 3/20/2017 8:02am
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Yeah right, and there's more to life than basketball.

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tickleme20 wrote:
My $.02. I'm sure all of us have had times in life where we have worked very, very hard to accomplish something - be it in...
My $.02.

I'm sure all of us have had times in life where we have worked very, very hard to accomplish something - be it in school, our jobs, hobbies, or romantically. And, despite the enormous amounts of effort we've put in, it hasn't worked out.

So, you lose the contract, screw up your project, your relationship fails, whathaveyou. It's common to get tunnel vision, to the point where we can focus on NOTHING ELSE but fixing the problem. We get obsessive. Failure (even if it's in a relative sense, like getting 3rd place instead of 1st) can really mess with our minds if we let it. Especially if we are, like Dungey, high achievers.

Tunnel vision can be very destructive, and often undermines the very problem we are trying to fix. So we try to mentally pull away after a certain point. We swing to the other extreme of nit-picking. We make sweeping, big picture statements: "Oh, there are bigger things in life than xyz" or "There are other fish in the sea" or "In the grand scheme of the universe, this means nothing."

Do we really *mean* that we don't care, that we've given up completely, when we say things like this? Not at all. Rather, it's a way to try and cope with the fact that things don't always go our way. We still care. We just don't want to go utterly bonkers and lose complete perspective.

Dungey cares, very much. But he's obviously quite pressured and stressed. I think "It’s just a dirt bike race" is his way of trying to keep himself from losing perspective and *really* going off the rails.


I agree with that 100%. Very well written.
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nrosso391 3/20/2017 8:15am
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I agree, there's a problem and he can't say it. He's just over it, getting beat without answers. Then the press asks him the same thing and drains him more. I hope its not him saying I'm retiring after this year. Then you watch the Press Conference and his tune was changed a little. He sounded more optimistic.
Park and Huck 3/20/2017 8:20am
3/20/2017 8:20am
Personally, I hope Ryan hangs it up right after Vegas. If the heart isn't in it, then get out. My work and my play are both things that are very dangerous, and if you REALLY don't want to be there, just stop.

One hell of a career, nothing to apologize for. As for a few of the comments on this thread... well, not even worth responding to.
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PRM31 3/20/2017 9:23am
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That comment was pretty telling. He's in some degree of frustration and burnout. My immediate thought was he's contemplating retirement. Which is fine, he's more than earned it! For now, he's still leading the title chase and if he gets good starts, has a couple really good nights he'll win the title. He may need a little help from Tomac, but being that fast and still being consistent is his hallmark. Others have shown a tiny bit more speed, but not many can keep it together week and week out.
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psychotronBR 3/20/2017 9:33am
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It downright baffles me that this man has been on the podium 9 races out of 11 this year, currently leads the championship by 12 points and it STILL seems like he's having a bad year. That alone speaks volumes of his consistency and overall dominance,

Dunge is the man! If he's thinking about retiring, good for him. Go eat some steak, have a few beers and enjoy life, he has absolutely NOTHING to prove.

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DemoDick 3/20/2017 1:01pm
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Dude was pissed and flustered. Had a reportedly as him the same old dumb ass questions and was searching for a good response and got tounge tied.

And you fuckers think he is done.

Lol.

If Tomac so much as bobbles once or has one bad race this is Ryan's championship.

I am actually pulling for Tomac so no hate here.

I will say you people need your tinfoil hats on for this kind of speculation.
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psychotronBR wrote:
It downright baffles me that this man has been on the podium 9 races out of 11 this year, currently leads the championship by 12 points...
It downright baffles me that this man has been on the podium 9 races out of 11 this year, currently leads the championship by 12 points and it STILL seems like he's having a bad year. That alone speaks volumes of his consistency and overall dominance,

Dunge is the man! If he's thinking about retiring, good for him. Go eat some steak, have a few beers and enjoy life, he has absolutely NOTHING to prove.
Can you imagine his retirement party? He's gonna have 2 beers and be re-posing like he did in the Fox Boots ad again.
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rancor19 3/20/2017 1:24pm
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CalRMX wrote:
If your a fluffer at a gay porn film set, I'd have to agree.
Nope. Twenty years in a skilled trade.

Sounds like you know your way around a gay porn set...
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nrosso391 3/20/2017 1:36pm
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He just has no answers right now. And probably didn't mean "its just a dirt bike race" ie: I don't care for this sport. But everyone is gonna speculate, me included. The press conference showed him with a different tone. He needs to just stay on the podium and at least win 2 of the remaining rounds and he seals the deal most likely. With that said, Webb looked good on his Instagram vid today and is another guy that can make Dungey's run even tougher.
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Fourth_Floor 3/20/2017 1:47pm
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Question wrote:
Not the best time to say it but I fully agree and that is somewhat i guess the recipie from his consistency. He won't go all...
Not the best time to say it but I fully agree and that is somewhat i guess the recipie from his consistency. He won't go all out if the risk is too high. That is why he won so many championships and also why he lost a few with RV. 12 points difference and still a lot of racing left.

What I am surprised of is Musquin taking important points. To light the fire in Dungey, yes, but i am surprised he went for the 2nd spot. Maybe that will upset Dungey then he can fight more against Tomac. Another topic but i am so surprised by Anderson this year: i was really thinking he would give a run to the championship.
Confused on Musquin's tactics as well...what is up with that? He has zero hopes of winning the title or running with Tomac so you would think the next most important thing would be to do what you can so at least your team comes out on top. Not sure how Redbull KTM can't be annoyed with him? Putting myself in his shoes I can't really grasp the concept of putting unwanted pressure on a teammate who is leading the series, risking the possibility of crashing him or making him crash just so I could get 2nd place for 100% no reason or benefit to KTM taking home another championship. I wouldn't want a guy like that riding for me. If your chance for a championship are completely gone for the season and you have a teammate that is in the hunt or in the lead then do what you can to help the dude out. If it's not supposed to work like that then what is the purpose of having teams?
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hvaughn88 3/20/2017 1:52pm
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Question wrote:
Not the best time to say it but I fully agree and that is somewhat i guess the recipie from his consistency. He won't go all...
Not the best time to say it but I fully agree and that is somewhat i guess the recipie from his consistency. He won't go all out if the risk is too high. That is why he won so many championships and also why he lost a few with RV. 12 points difference and still a lot of racing left.

What I am surprised of is Musquin taking important points. To light the fire in Dungey, yes, but i am surprised he went for the 2nd spot. Maybe that will upset Dungey then he can fight more against Tomac. Another topic but i am so surprised by Anderson this year: i was really thinking he would give a run to the championship.
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Confused on Musquin's tactics as well...what is up with that? He has zero hopes of winning the title or running with Tomac so you would think...
Confused on Musquin's tactics as well...what is up with that? He has zero hopes of winning the title or running with Tomac so you would think the next most important thing would be to do what you can so at least your team comes out on top. Not sure how Redbull KTM can't be annoyed with him? Putting myself in his shoes I can't really grasp the concept of putting unwanted pressure on a teammate who is leading the series, risking the possibility of crashing him or making him crash just so I could get 2nd place for 100% no reason or benefit to KTM taking home another championship. I wouldn't want a guy like that riding for me. If your chance for a championship are completely gone for the season and you have a teammate that is in the hunt or in the lead then do what you can to help the dude out. If it's not supposed to work like that then what is the purpose of having teams?
What the hell! I'm pretty sure Marv probably has some win bonus incentives, too. It baffles me that this is even a conversation. Ragging on Marv for being faster than his teammate in a race is pretty damn petty.

By the way, Marvin isn't mathematically eliminated yet. Unlikely, but not eliminated. How foolish would it be to lay up to help Dungey and then have Tomac & Dungey crash out in the same race and be out for the season. All of the sudden it would be down to Marvin and Seely. Points are hard to come by and you should take them when you can get them. This isn't over, folks.
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G-man 3/20/2017 2:10pm
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What did I miss?

DVR only got the Tomac interview. Evil
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Question wrote:
Not the best time to say it but I fully agree and that is somewhat i guess the recipie from his consistency. He won't go all...
Not the best time to say it but I fully agree and that is somewhat i guess the recipie from his consistency. He won't go all out if the risk is too high. That is why he won so many championships and also why he lost a few with RV. 12 points difference and still a lot of racing left.

What I am surprised of is Musquin taking important points. To light the fire in Dungey, yes, but i am surprised he went for the 2nd spot. Maybe that will upset Dungey then he can fight more against Tomac. Another topic but i am so surprised by Anderson this year: i was really thinking he would give a run to the championship.
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Confused on Musquin's tactics as well...what is up with that? He has zero hopes of winning the title or running with Tomac so you would think...
Confused on Musquin's tactics as well...what is up with that? He has zero hopes of winning the title or running with Tomac so you would think the next most important thing would be to do what you can so at least your team comes out on top. Not sure how Redbull KTM can't be annoyed with him? Putting myself in his shoes I can't really grasp the concept of putting unwanted pressure on a teammate who is leading the series, risking the possibility of crashing him or making him crash just so I could get 2nd place for 100% no reason or benefit to KTM taking home another championship. I wouldn't want a guy like that riding for me. If your chance for a championship are completely gone for the season and you have a teammate that is in the hunt or in the lead then do what you can to help the dude out. If it's not supposed to work like that then what is the purpose of having teams?
Yeah..... Marvin gets paid by how he finishes. I seriously doubt he would willingly take a paycut (bonuses) so his teammate/ competitor, can finish ahead. Sure, KTM wants a title, they all do. But they also want the best riders giving it their best. Marvin also has to protect his own worth, higher average finishes equals higher salary and better negotiating standings
Keep_Riding78 3/20/2017 5:11pm
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Okay first off after reading all of these post
And giving my own. I just want to say
Duney is awesome and has always been
In this sport. I want Tomac to win because when I see him ride and pull forward it's like watching RV or RC hitting the track.
Excuses for Ryan are not okay a true champion pushes through and all of us should only back up the race results.
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IWreckALot 3/21/2017 4:47am
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G-man wrote:
What did I miss?

DVR only got the Tomac interview. Evil
Dungey had an uncharacteristic interview. Fumbled for words really for the whole interview and at the end said "It's just a dirt bike race. There are bigger things in life going on."

Not sure that was verbatim, but it's pretty close.
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Taotech 3/21/2017 7:55am
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Sounds like something a wife or mom would say when they were a little heated. I wonder if he was just repeating someone else's advice.
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potatoflake 3/21/2017 8:10am
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He's ready to be put out to pasture, dungey has had a damn successful career if you ask me. I kinda see a dullness in him that I never have it's almost like he's saying to himself "I ant gettin hurt in my last season let's just take it all in one more time"

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