It’s a shame Glen Helen and MX Sports can’t get along

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Edited Date/Time 5/24/2021 1:33pm
How is it that we can’t get the gnarliest track on the west coast back on the schedule? Pala really doesn’t even come close to replacing GH.




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Bruce372 5/21/2021 7:42am
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MX Sports seem to be able to get along with all the other tracks...
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Dutch348 5/21/2021 7:55am
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Bud hurt Davey’s feelings, so we the fans got screwed. Sad.
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Dutch348 wrote:
Bud hurt Davey’s feelings, so we the fans got screwed. Sad.
Oh, yeah, no.
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The two uphill triples, one right after the other was insane! Watcting Villalobos, first on thev250F to clear was special. The uphill/downhill hairpins were also very exciting passing opportunities.
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byke 5/21/2021 8:03am
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Some think the organizer should get the biggest slice of the pie, some think the track should, but either way it's the riders that end up with their corner-of-the-mouth crumbs. All the problems we see in moto are largely because 99% of the people out there running a business, have no idea/training/education in how to run a business. This is what happens when some average dude off the street is in charge of things.
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NorCal1975 5/21/2021 8:16am
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Gnarliest track on the West Coast? Is there a gnarlier track anywhere in the world? Fingers crossed it makes it back on the schedule soon....
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Zycki11 5/21/2021 8:20am
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NorCal1975 wrote:
Gnarliest track on the West Coast? Is there a gnarlier track anywhere in the world? Fingers crossed it makes it back on the schedule soon....
Lmao easily Yes. Have you seen Lomel, Kegums, etc? I love American Moto. Our tracks are gorgeous and pristine. The euros have GNARLY tracks
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Johnny Ringo 5/21/2021 8:23am
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NorCal1975 wrote:
Gnarliest track on the West Coast? Is there a gnarlier track anywhere in the world? Fingers crossed it makes it back on the schedule soon....
Zycki11 wrote:
Lmao easily Yes. Have you seen Lomel, Kegums, etc? I love American Moto. Our tracks are gorgeous and pristine. The euros have GNARLY tracks
No track anywhere in the world has hills like GH
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If it was a divorce, it'd be filed under unreconcilable differences because it's always the others fault.
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Brent 5/21/2021 9:06am
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
No track anywhere in the world has hills like GH
I rode there yesterday, and I believe it is the most difficult track on the planet when the sand gets rough. Every part of my body is hurting this morning.

I was lucky enough to race Carlsbad for a lot of years, and Glen Helen with its ridiculous steep up and downhills, sand and huge bumps is so much harder than Carlsbad ever was on its worst day.

It is a shame that a national is not held here, it sure looked like one yesterday with virtually every top pro rider going balls to the wall all day.
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BobPA 5/21/2021 9:12am
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Two nationals at Pala is kind of a bummer. That track just does not have what it takes to be a real national IMO.
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Brent 5/21/2021 9:16am
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Two nationals at Pala is kind of a bummer. That track just does not have what it takes to be a real national IMO.
I would respectfully disagree.

On a level of difficulty, Fox/Pala is 11.ask Dean wilson

In addition, the track is on Tribal land, so MX Sports can be assured that the events will go off.

Would glen Helen be a better choice if there could only be one national in so cal? Yes.

But Pala is a mean Motherfucker in its own right, the riders will be tested there.
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NorCal1975 wrote:
Gnarliest track on the West Coast? Is there a gnarlier track anywhere in the world? Fingers crossed it makes it back on the schedule soon....
Zycki11 wrote:
Lmao easily Yes. Have you seen Lomel, Kegums, etc? I love American Moto. Our tracks are gorgeous and pristine. The euros have GNARLY tracks
Johnny Ringo wrote:
No track anywhere in the world has hills like GH
You've been to all the tracks? Nice
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SKlein 5/21/2021 9:44am
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Little technical things like this make it such an interesting track to watch.
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MX Guy 5/21/2021 9:48am
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BobPA wrote:
Two nationals at Pala is kind of a bummer. That track just does not have what it takes to be a real national IMO.
Brent wrote:
I would respectfully disagree. On a level of difficulty, Fox/Pala is 11.ask [url=https://www.instagram.com/tv/COi8Td4j94O/?utm_medium=share_sheet]Dean wilson[/url] In addition, the track is on Tribal land, so MX Sports can...
I would respectfully disagree.

On a level of difficulty, Fox/Pala is 11.ask Dean wilson

In addition, the track is on Tribal land, so MX Sports can be assured that the events will go off.

Would glen Helen be a better choice if there could only be one national in so cal? Yes.

But Pala is a mean Motherfucker in its own right, the riders will be tested there.
Pala gets very rough. Rocks and deep ruts. It doesn't have the high speed of some of the east coast tracks and definitely doesn't have the elevation of Glen Helen but if we're talking physically demanding, Pala is no joke.
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profeshenal125 5/21/2021 9:54am
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NorCal1975 wrote:
Gnarliest track on the West Coast? Is there a gnarlier track anywhere in the world? Fingers crossed it makes it back on the schedule soon....
Zycki11 wrote:
Lmao easily Yes. Have you seen Lomel, Kegums, etc? I love American Moto. Our tracks are gorgeous and pristine. The euros have GNARLY tracks
Johnny Ringo wrote:
No track anywhere in the world has hills like GH
Yeah, remember RC exploding a hail bail on a down hill and not letting off. Big hills - big excitement . Here is a pic of a 91 cr250 I restored, I launched it 4 gear wo up a ski flying ramp at a ski hill. The throttle stuck wo, when I launched, broke the left side of the new bars off.
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hubbardmx50 5/21/2021 9:59am
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Huge shame indeed. Pala does a great job but Glen Helen is where the heart is. Best place ever to watch racing and have a good time
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kpiper 5/21/2021 10:09am
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SKlein wrote:
Little technical things like this make it such an interesting track to watch.
Little technical things like this make it such an interesting track to watch.
Those first five and a half motos from Tomac on the Honda 450 may have been the best five motos ever. It was amazing to watch.

Eli should be remembered forever in moto history just on that streak.
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Mavetism wrote:
One of my favorite GoPro videos ever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqs5H29W8z4&t
One of my favorite GoPro videos ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqs5H29W8z4&t
Man you’re right about that go pro, could watch it all day. Jessy Nelson had some of the most insane sprint speed. I remember watching him the night he won A1 and thinking is there any way someone can go faster on a 250? There were some people in the stands sitting next to us from his hometown that went absolutely nuts after he took the checkered. It was cool to watch. Huge fan!!
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Bruce372 5/21/2021 10:13am
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I went to a GH national a couple of years ago and it wasn't that good for spectating.... all the track lanes were dug well below the viewing area so you had a lot of the action obscured from view. Then there is the ego of the track designer routing the circuit behind a bunch of hills out back where the riders completely dissapear out of view for part of the lap.

Went to Hangtown that year as well, the track layout is on elevated dirt so you can see most of the action from anywhere in the viewing area.

All this gnarliest track in the world is moot if the owner won't sign up for big races. Plus, it's the same track for everyone..... if the purse is good enough, I bet most pros would race around a Walmart parking lot.
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KennyT 5/21/2021 10:55am
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Pala - San Diego county - scenery

GH - San Bernardino county - sewer

The tracks may not compare but the experience at Pala he’s the potential to be much better based on its location
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Brent 5/21/2021 11:32am
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KennyT wrote:
Pala - San Diego county - scenery GH - San Bernardino county - sewer The tracks may not compare but the experience at Pala he’s the...
Pala - San Diego county - scenery

GH - San Bernardino county - sewer

The tracks may not compare but the experience at Pala he’s the potential to be much better based on its location
Come on dude.

Who doesn't enjoy the lush scenery of the Glen Helen area - The multiple Amazon warehouses, the Lovely run down Denny's on the corner, the test track where they teach San Berdoo cops how to wreck their cars, or best of all the Women's prison at the end of the road to the track.

Experience the culture and beauty of the inland Empire, Bro...


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FreshTopEnd 5/21/2021 11:38am
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Pala is a good track, don't play like it's the Elsinore alternative.

There probably will be a GH national when Bud wants one enough or he goes away, which is unlikely.
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