Isn't this Chase Sexton 450 thing a little premature?

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I mean really, he has only won 1 SX race and 1 MX moto and after that 1st moto win he cooked himself and couldn't finish the race. Why not wait a year?
Wouldn't Jeremy Martin be a better fit for this?
Also he will never have the chance to win a 250 MX championship.
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Moto520 12/5/2019 8:04am
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Maybe his riding style lends itself more to the 450 for motocross. He's a really smooth looking rider and maybe he likes to lug the motor.
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kb228 12/5/2019 8:07am
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I was puzzled as well but who else are they going to put in that spot.

Hes likely going to be there anyways tho so why not.
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bvm111 12/5/2019 8:30am
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That’s what happens when you win a championship too early in your careers and are forced to move up. You guys can’t complain about “sandbaggers” in a professional series and then when they are forced to move up due to the rules complain about that too.
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WarrenMX 12/5/2019 8:31am
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I thought it was because of the SX rule that says he has to move up after winning the SX title?
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Moto520 12/5/2019 8:35am
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WarrenMX wrote:
I thought it was because of the SX rule that says he has to move up after winning the SX title?
He gets a chance to defend his title as well. This is for motocross. Chase is racing the 250 for SX and the 450 for outdoors.
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Adam43 12/5/2019 8:38am
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It's not a good trend to keep guys in the 250s forever either. Sometimes if you wait for everything to be "perfect, the moment never comes.

100% agree that Martin has earned the chance.
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Dirty Points 12/5/2019 8:38am
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I wish many more teams were doing this. Why is it "too early" for any step if they are viewing him as a long term asset?

This type of stepping stone rider development is vastly preferable to the norm in the system we have now with high quality riders actively avoiding the premiere class.
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Boomslang 12/5/2019 8:45am
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theesloth wrote:
I mean really, he has only won 1 SX race and 1 MX moto and after that 1st moto win he cooked himself and couldn't finish...
I mean really, he has only won 1 SX race and 1 MX moto and after that 1st moto win he cooked himself and couldn't finish the race. Why not wait a year?
Wouldn't Jeremy Martin be a better fit for this?
Also he will never have the chance to win a 250 MX championship.
The short answer....yes!
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BroFoSho 12/5/2019 8:47am
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He will be ineligible for 250 SX starting in 2021. Brayton is SX only so it makes perfect sense to give Sexton some seat time on a 450 before going straight into supercross on one.
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I think yes, a bit, but this way worked out with Gajser.

The GEICO team has such a pipeline of talent that it may have also played a role in this decision.

It may take him a year or 2 to really perform, but they are preparing the future and anyway with the title he is forced to move up maximum september 2020.

May or September is not such a big difference, but i think it will really help him to perform and to stay healthy during his SX season in 2021 and beyond.
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hamncheeze 12/5/2019 9:25am
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Every 250 rider has said they are better on a 450. I'm sure Sexton is no different and this will work out just fine Dry

Honestly, it is maybe a bit early as he has not ever been in the 250 MX championship hunt. But IMO this shows us how much more important SX is than MX for Honda, as they are effectively giving up on of their best 250 outdoor title chances to get a guy some 450 time before 2021 SX.
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Tarz483 12/5/2019 9:28am
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His Riding Style seems
Similar to Duney imo, 450 worked ok for Dungey.
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H4L 12/5/2019 9:29am
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It worked out pretty good for CR22 stepping into the premier class right away.. As a member mentioned above the 450 might suit him better. He is a big kid like AC92. AC looked really good on the 450 at MEC.
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mac3-d 12/5/2019 9:40am
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Years ago some 250 SX racers would compete on the 450 on the opposite coast, maybe Sexton could do a few rounds. I'd like to see some more experienced 250 racers step up for a few rounds, Ferandis, A mart come to mind
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mx 219 12/5/2019 9:45am
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theesloth wrote:
I mean really, he has only won 1 SX race and 1 MX moto and after that 1st moto win he cooked himself and couldn't finish...
I mean really, he has only won 1 SX race and 1 MX moto and after that 1st moto win he cooked himself and couldn't finish the race. Why not wait a year?
Wouldn't Jeremy Martin be a better fit for this?
Also he will never have the chance to win a 250 MX championship.
agree 100%

Martin should have gone up years ago.
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Monte122 12/5/2019 9:52am
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Big boy class, nuff said! most wanna be there
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hamncheeze 12/5/2019 9:57am
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mac3-d wrote:
Years ago some 250 SX racers would compete on the 450 on the opposite coast, maybe Sexton could do a few rounds. I'd like to see...
Years ago some 250 SX racers would compete on the 450 on the opposite coast, maybe Sexton could do a few rounds. I'd like to see some more experienced 250 racers step up for a few rounds, Ferandis, A mart come to mind
I agree, this has sort of died off. Canard had great rides in 2010, Seely filled in for Honda a few times in 2011/12 before he moved up, as did Wil Hahn. Tomac did a few 450 SX in 2013, as did Roczen and Musquin both in 2012 and 2013. Since then we have seen almost no one do a 450 stint on the opposite coast. I guess it comes down to money and the fear of injuries.
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zehn 12/5/2019 10:07am
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It's kind of sixes IMO. On the one hand, it could be beneficial for him to race with the big boys in terms of his development as a rider, especially outdoors. On the other hand, we've seen more than one young 250 rider move up and have their confidence absolutely shattered when they go from a top dog in the 250 class to fighting just to finish in the top 10 in the 450s.
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t_baum88 12/5/2019 10:10am
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mac3-d wrote:
Years ago some 250 SX racers would compete on the 450 on the opposite coast, maybe Sexton could do a few rounds. I'd like to see...
Years ago some 250 SX racers would compete on the 450 on the opposite coast, maybe Sexton could do a few rounds. I'd like to see some more experienced 250 racers step up for a few rounds, Ferandis, A mart come to mind
He is.
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pbody 12/5/2019 10:16am
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Just a bummer deal for JM6 with the injury and all. Would've loved to seen him on a Honda 450 this year.
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Frank Tuesday 12/5/2019 10:22am
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zehn wrote:
It's kind of sixes IMO. On the one hand, it could be beneficial for him to race with the big boys in terms of his development...
It's kind of sixes IMO. On the one hand, it could be beneficial for him to race with the big boys in terms of his development as a rider, especially outdoors. On the other hand, we've seen more than one young 250 rider move up and have their confidence absolutely shattered when they go from a top dog in the 250 class to fighting just to finish in the top 10 in the 450s.
There's enough talent in 450s that fighting for top 10s is what should be expected of a rookie. Another year in 250 means they'll be fighting for top 9s instead? I think the early successes of Ryan and Ryan has created unrealistic expectations for riders moving up. It's hard, there's a ton of top notch talent with lots of experience. You may have felt on top of the world in 250, but most of the guys you raced last year will never sit on a factory 450.
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yamaharider471 12/5/2019 10:26am
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hamncheeze wrote:
Every 250 rider has said they are better on a 450. I'm sure Sexton is no different and this will work out just fine :dry: Honestly...
Every 250 rider has said they are better on a 450. I'm sure Sexton is no different and this will work out just fine Dry

Honestly, it is maybe a bit early as he has not ever been in the 250 MX championship hunt. But IMO this shows us how much more important SX is than MX for Honda, as they are effectively giving up on of their best 250 outdoor title chances to get a guy some 450 time before 2021 SX.
Jmart is their best 250 title chance
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JohnMatrix 12/5/2019 10:49am
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I think it's a pretty good move for Chase. He appears to have a really well-disciplined style that I think will translate well to the 450 class...just my opinion. There is a ton of talent in the current 450 field but if he joins early and has some moderate success, then I feel that he will be setting himself up for greater success in say 3-4 years. He will have gained some invaluable experience by the time that some of the current top 450 class riders are on their way out of the door.
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Sean Murdock 12/5/2019 11:06am
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All of the badasses move up quick and Chase qualifies, hands down. I disagree that it's 'pre mature'. If there were more rides I'm sure more top 250 guys would prefer move up and race the best of the best.
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aeffertz 12/5/2019 11:18am
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I think it’s smarter to race 450s outdoors before racing 450 SX. Same way I think it’s smart for amateurs to race 250 pro outdoors before jumping into SX for their pro debut.
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hamncheeze 12/5/2019 11:36am
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hamncheeze wrote:
Every 250 rider has said they are better on a 450. I'm sure Sexton is no different and this will work out just fine :dry: Honestly...
Every 250 rider has said they are better on a 450. I'm sure Sexton is no different and this will work out just fine Dry

Honestly, it is maybe a bit early as he has not ever been in the 250 MX championship hunt. But IMO this shows us how much more important SX is than MX for Honda, as they are effectively giving up on of their best 250 outdoor title chances to get a guy some 450 time before 2021 SX.
yamaharider471 wrote:
Jmart is their best 250 title chance
I love me some Jmart and his comeback is super-impressive so far, but we are still in the early days here. His racing at MEC and Paris was impressive but the races are pretty short and even he admitted on post-race interviews that he is still not anywhere near 100%. How his back and body will stand up to 2x 30+2 on a hot, rough National track is, at this point, anyone's best guess. That's why I'd rate Sexton as the best title shot for Geico outdoors, if he raced a 250.
miketherider 12/5/2019 11:40am
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Honda has plenty of fast guys under the tent for outdoors; JMart, Hunter and Jett Lawrence. I don't see too many disadvantages. The 2nd seat for the 450 outdoor ride has been a carousel, so for HRC, they're probably paying him a pretty nominal salary and they/him are already familiar with each other. Young? Yes. Immature? Not from what I see/hear, which I'm sure HRC values.
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Gukamonster 12/5/2019 1:15pm
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Davi Millsaps had a similar program with Honda. Won the 2006 East Lites SX title and moved to 450 motocross for that year's outdoors and took 3rd in the standings. He had only raced 2 seasons of 250 motocross before the move up, Chase already has done 3.
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