Is it possible that Eli started back in the 2nd moto on purpose?

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Edited Date/Time 7/31/2019 4:13am
Watching him pretty much demolish the best in the world like a cat playing with it's prey.
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7/29/2019 4:25pm
Hmmmmm, Now that you mention it...........
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7/29/2019 4:28pm
Seeing it in person was like watching national geographic on lions hunting.
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7/29/2019 4:38pm
Didn't Brad Lackey do that for the win?
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Purposely staying back to eat some of the worst roost in the entire series seems logical...
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NV825 wrote:
Purposely staying back to eat some of the worst roost in the entire series seems logical...
But he has the cushion to do it.
I've gone hunting enough to know hunters mentality.
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Hey ruy, did you see that?
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oldblood wrote:
Didn't Brad Lackey do that for the win?
He hung back to avoid having bottles and other debris thrown at him then passed Vromans late in the race .
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7/29/2019 4:53pm
Eli doesnt come off as arrogant so i doubt it.

Justin cooper might do that since he says the perfect rider includes his own outright speed
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7/29/2019 4:54pm Edited Date/Time 7/29/2019 4:55pm
oldblood wrote:
Watching him pretty much demolish the best in the world like a cat playing with it's prey.
Best in America. Not the best in the world. This aint the '80's. Track prep looks better this year in US nats though..Theres only 5-6 guys can get on the podium, so its no biggie coming from a 12th place start.

Actually Eli has "unbelievable" endurance towards the end of races. Much better than the rest..He reminds me of Armstrong the way he can just blow by people at the end of a race..Truly an incredible athlete.
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kb228 wrote:
Eli doesnt come off as arrogant so i doubt it.

Justin cooper might do that since he says the perfect rider includes his own outright speed
'arrogant', or self challenging?
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It kinda looked like a typical weekday workout for him from the fence.
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7/29/2019 5:07pm Edited Date/Time 7/29/2019 5:07pm
That race made me think of this one, just impressive all the way
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oldblood wrote:
Watching him pretty much demolish the best in the world like a cat playing with it's prey.
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Best in America. Not the best in the world. This aint the '80's. Track prep looks better this year in US nats though..Theres only 5-6 guys...
Best in America. Not the best in the world. This aint the '80's. Track prep looks better this year in US nats though..Theres only 5-6 guys can get on the podium, so its no biggie coming from a 12th place start.

Actually Eli has "unbelievable" endurance towards the end of races. Much better than the rest..He reminds me of Armstrong the way he can just blow by people at the end of a race..Truly an incredible athlete.
he started in 17th pretty damn impressive race.
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By the time he retires he may have made more passes than any other professional MX racer ever.
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Could you imagine being that confident in your ability, speed and endurance that you purposely throw the start of the race just to make it more interesting by blowing through the pack?

Me neither. But damn, your hunter's mentality statements almost make it fathomable.
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7/29/2019 5:38pm Edited Date/Time 7/29/2019 8:14pm
Maestro wrote:
Best in America. Not the best in the world. This aint the '80's. Track prep looks better this year in US nats though..Theres only 5-6 guys...
Best in America. Not the best in the world. This aint the '80's. Track prep looks better this year in US nats though..Theres only 5-6 guys can get on the podium, so its no biggie coming from a 12th place start.

Actually Eli has "unbelievable" endurance towards the end of races. Much better than the rest..He reminds me of Armstrong the way he can just blow by people at the end of a race..Truly an incredible athlete.
You act as if having 5-6 riders who can get on the podium is a bad thing. Currently the top of the US nationals are as stacked as any other motocross series and I don’t think that’s debatable. Sure starting outside the top ten isn’t a huge deal but to have to pass the current top five or so riders in the US is no easy feat.

Your comments comparing Tomac to Armstrong seem a whole lot more like an accusation than a compliment.
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considering eli frequently gets bad starts i gonna say no chance. too much risk being that far back and risking a crash from other riders.
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I think his starts would be better if he actually drove it into the first turn fully committed. It seems like he backs off a bit if he isn’t towards the front, maybe not wanting to risk going down. It is better to have say a 15th place start then it would be go down and have to make his way up from the very back. Whatever he is doing it’s given him a 50 point gap so I’d venture to guess he is pretty comfortable with the way his starts have been. It sure makes for exciting racing!
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I watched it, it was a slaughter, a bloodbath.
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oldblood wrote:
Watching him pretty much demolish the best in the world like a cat playing with it's prey.
Maestro wrote:
Best in America. Not the best in the world. This aint the '80's. Track prep looks better this year in US nats though..Theres only 5-6 guys...
Best in America. Not the best in the world. This aint the '80's. Track prep looks better this year in US nats though..Theres only 5-6 guys can get on the podium, so its no biggie coming from a 12th place start.

Actually Eli has "unbelievable" endurance towards the end of races. Much better than the rest..He reminds me of Armstrong the way he can just blow by people at the end of a race..Truly an incredible athlete.
He actually come from 17th, not 12th.
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jevyguy wrote:
I think his starts would be better if he actually drove it into the first turn fully committed. It seems like he backs off a bit...
I think his starts would be better if he actually drove it into the first turn fully committed. It seems like he backs off a bit if he isn’t towards the front, maybe not wanting to risk going down. It is better to have say a 15th place start then it would be go down and have to make his way up from the very back. Whatever he is doing it’s given him a 50 point gap so I’d venture to guess he is pretty comfortable with the way his starts have been. It sure makes for exciting racing!
Exactly, he'd rather be in the position of hunter than prey.
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No way. He is a professional who is paid to win, and he'll get the best start he can, every time. I just think he's not a great starter. He can pass lots of riders because he's damn fast and he has to!
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jevyguy wrote:
I think his starts would be better if he actually drove it into the first turn fully committed. It seems like he backs off a bit...
I think his starts would be better if he actually drove it into the first turn fully committed. It seems like he backs off a bit if he isn’t towards the front, maybe not wanting to risk going down. It is better to have say a 15th place start then it would be go down and have to make his way up from the very back. Whatever he is doing it’s given him a 50 point gap so I’d venture to guess he is pretty comfortable with the way his starts have been. It sure makes for exciting racing!
oldblood wrote:
Exactly, he'd rather be in the position of hunter than prey.
there were 15 other spots he could of started in front of him that would have still let him be the hunter.
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This isn’t a serious question, is it?!?!?!?!?!
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APLMAN99 wrote:
This isn’t a serious question, is it?!?!?!?!?!
Yes? What makes it crazy to ask? Apparently you aren’t familiar with Unadilla 2002 125 class. 😉WinkWink
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oldblood wrote:
Watching him pretty much demolish the best in the world like a cat playing with it's prey.
Stupid threads like this make it sound like Big Lenny snuck back into vital.


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