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They arent paying TC, nor CS the same as what RD, or RV (still), is worth...Roczen is gettin, what, $12 mil for 5 years right? Y'all calm the hell down and drink some whiskey, damn...
With that said, TC on a KTM should be sick, not as sick as JS7 on a 350, but sick....
They sure as hell dont care what you think, they run a business...they would produce 2 strokes if money and pressure from other manufacturers warrants it, and if they produced them the sales in KTM/Husky would dive...is that really what you want? Didnt think so.
The Shop
18,000 to 21,000?
My prediction is...Ken will have more issues with Honda than he EVER has had at KTM or RCH/Suzuki, and it won't all be about the bike.
The only issues I see Roczen having with Honda is clearing more space for the trophies and the dough that comes with them.
Their new thinking ran off McGrath, but got lucky with RC, they got him affordable with heavy incentives. They continued to hire affordable riders and continued to get affordable results.
They recently have become more involved in other motors ports and HRC has resurged and now American Honda is benefiting from it with bigger budgets and better equipment.
My CRF250 vs a new KTM/YZF 250 doesn't stand a chance in a straight line. I believe the 450 is down 5hp as well.
Pit Row
Learned that hard way in the airline industry.
Corner speed > HP
they build great bikes, just not a fan of their corporate actions. (ie, the two stroke deal, but that goes for Kawi and Suzi too)
Go back and read the first post so you will have a clue as to what this post is all about.
Factory Honda Motocross Team since RC4 left.
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when he met McGarth, (MC was a Honda spokesman then) he asked how he could have gone back to a company that treated him so bad,
1. they there getting thrashed by honda with their amazing works bikes in the early 80's to 85, so thy pushed hard for the 'Production rule'....that came into effect in 86, problem is that Honda produced an amazing 86 bikes and basically (apart from Ward) dominated again for the next 4-5 years...so that kind of backfired on them and robbed the public of ever seeing works bikes in that vein again
2. then they got dispensation from AMA/FIM/whoever to race their 400 4 strokes against the 250 two strokes and started beating them, Honda of course saw this and rubbed their hands...ah 4 strokes woo hoo and the rest is history, as all manufacturers followed them...yes Honda helped push the rules to get to 450 4 strokes and ban 2 strokes but the other manufacturers were behind it as well...now we are robbed seeing 2 strokes racing competitively
So is Honda the big bad wolf here? Not entirely no.
Some comments here about how Honda treats their riders, yes in the past they did and they lost the good riders, now HRC are back involved and definitely has changed. One comment above made me laugh, saying how bad they treat their riders then criticise them for hanging onto Canard....which way do you want it????
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