Is Arenacross done?

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5/5/2018 4:37 AM

Matt walker posted yesterday that Vegas could be the last arenacross. That it could be dissolved into just an amateur sx.
This was the first time I had heard of it, does anyone have any info?

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https://instagram.com/p/BiXeU31gWCP/

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5/5/2018 4:46 AM

Well i mean look at that huge crowd!!

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5/5/2018 4:48 AM

JohnnyT_983 wrote:

Matt walker posted yesterday that Vegas could be the last arenacross. That it could be dissolved into just an amateur sx.
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Thats the story, don't write it off yet though, someone else may take it over.

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5/5/2018 4:48 AM

rmoto003 wrote:

Well i mean look at that huge crowd!!

Truth

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5/5/2018 5:04 AM

I kindof look at arenacross as am sx already anyways. Piggyback it off sx on sundays.

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5/5/2018 5:30 AM

Ax was never that good. The track is wayy too small.

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5/5/2018 5:56 AM

I wonder if it did go away, if somehow Feld would hold on to the rights to it so another promoter couldn't come in and take it over.

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5/5/2018 6:11 AM

I looked into going to one this year. $35 was the cheapest seat I could find, for that much I'll just go to SX...

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5/5/2018 7:00 AM

There will always be AX, it just won’t be a national series. Be more local promoters put them on like they used to.

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5/5/2018 7:43 AM

Same. Idk what it is just the super small tracks don't provide the same entertainment.
The crowds are also a joke, like in that pic and the few I've seen of the Kicker series. I almost find it funny when the announcer is screaming trying to pump everyone up, and there's like 100 people in the whole place.

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5/5/2018 10:01 AM
Edited Date/Time: 5/5/2018 10:01 AM

When Mike Kidd stated and built up the original Arenacross series it was standing room only and then he sold it and it went down hill. There were two AX series at one time and the sport was not big enough for two competing promoters and this is what has become of a once thriving series. sad

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Ed Johnson

5/5/2018 10:27 AM

They should make it a 125cc only series. That would spice it up. For me anyway. Might actually watch it.

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5/5/2018 11:18 AM

Flip109 wrote:

They should make it a 125cc only series. That would spice it up. For me anyway. Might actually watch it.

You might. And a bunch of others from vital might. Outside of that though it would still fail. The average fan doesn't care whether they're on a 2 or 4 stroke.

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5/5/2018 11:22 AM

Flip109 wrote:

They should make it a 125cc only series. That would spice it up. For me anyway. Might actually watch it.

Or make it a two stroke only style series. Or use the funds to run a two stroke series with the current sx series.

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5/5/2018 11:35 AM

I would always refer to AX as a minor league for SX to my non moto friends.

I went when they came to Sacramento last year and had a good time.

They should seriously go back to having it during the fall/winter. I’m into any kind of dirt bike racing and if that’s all there is to watch I’m tuning in. Right now I feel it kind of gets lost in the shuffle with SX NBA NHL and MLB going on, at least for me.

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5/5/2018 12:05 PM

rhargrave431 wrote:

I wonder if it did go away, if somehow Feld would hold on to the rights to it so another promoter couldn't come in and take it ...more

There aren't a whole lot of rights to it other than being able to call at an AMA national championship.

Any promoter can call it a national series as long as it isn't ama sanctioned.

Where feld could make it hard is to tie up the best arenas by either booking concerts or other entertainment or by scheduling motorsports events that include some kind of motorcycle racing that would enact a no-similar-events clause that is often included in venues' standard contracts. Seems like they were 90 days before or after, so if a promoter had a motorcycle race event in mid January no similar events could book from mid October to mid april. Mid April to mid October is not the prime time for indoor racing.

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5/5/2018 12:15 PM

Take the AMA out and bring it back to the grass roots era.

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5/5/2018 12:37 PM

rhargrave431 wrote:

I wonder if it did go away, if somehow Feld would hold on to the rights to it so another promoter couldn't come in and take it ...more

JustMX wrote:

There aren't a whole lot of rights to it other than being able to call at an AMA national championship.

Any promoter can call ...more

That's kinda what I meant. Or they could say they are taking one year off to rebuild and gather themselves... Maybe that keeps the AMA in their pocket so another promoter doesn't up and start over with AMA sanctioning.

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5/5/2018 12:38 PM

Flip109 wrote:

They should make it a 125cc only series. That would spice it up. For me anyway. Might actually watch it.

JohnnyT_983 wrote:

Or make it a two stroke only style series. Or use the funds to run a two stroke series with the current sx series.

Give it up with the two strokes already!! If ya'll want two strokes so bad and think they will make the sport boom, start your own series. You'll be rich.

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5/5/2018 12:56 PM

drt410 wrote:

Ax was never that good. The track is wayy too small.

Don't know how long you have been following it but anybody that was around back when mike kidd was running the national ax series could easily argue against your statement.

It was a rocking series back in the mid 90's until he sold it to clear channel. It had good sponsorship, paid good money, great pre event pr, and could make you somebody to watch if you could mix it up with Mike jones, adoponte (sp?), stephenson, antunez, gibson, rand, palmer, buehl, and all the other regulars.

And the 125 and 250 2st were definitely more suited to the tight, hyper tracks.

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5/5/2018 6:43 PM

Arenacross was an EXCELLENT show back when Mike Kidd was still involved. The big thing to me, the series lost a lot of it’s luster as soon as the format changed, and riders didn’t ride two different size bikes each night, two nights in a row anymore.

Yeah I know it’ll never happen, but if someone brought back the old format, and had everyone race both 125s and 250s (maybe even allow 2T vs 4T in that class), I can’t help but imagine it being an extremely exciting series again.

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5/5/2018 8:53 PM

I don't think ax as a whole will go away in full. If feld drops the ball someone will pick it back up. There will be a vacuum and it can make money. Currently there is already the nitro ax series which could expand heck even piggyback off of the Canada series. Something will fill the void

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"If you feel in control, you're not going fast enough" ~Mario Andretti

5/6/2018 9:50 AM

mb60 wrote:

Take the AMA out and bring it back to the grass roots era.

Agreed. The whole sport is dying and the AMA has not done shit to stop it. This needs to be addressed publicly by the AMA and they are ignoring it. The dealership and the local tracks are where the help is needed. No one is promoting this sport. At one point in time JS7 was on the tonight show and by now no one knows who Jason Anderson is. Out with the AMA. What does the AMA do?

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5/6/2018 7:21 PM
Edited Date/Time: 5/6/2018 7:23 PM

mb60 wrote:

Take the AMA out and bring it back to the grass roots era.

jsmi33966 wrote:

Agreed. The whole sport is dying and the AMA has not done shit to stop it. This needs to be addressed publicly by the AMA and ...more

One has to stand out from the crowd to get exposure. James had a little more of a story for public consumption.

Oh, and ama no longer has much incentive to do pr for pro racing, since they don't actually own it anymore.

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5/6/2018 7:32 PM

Flip109 wrote:

They should make it a 125cc only series. That would spice it up. For me anyway. Might actually watch it.

JohnnyT_983 wrote:

Or make it a two stroke only style series. Or use the funds to run a two stroke series with the current sx series.

Squirrelings wrote:

Give it up with the two strokes already!! If ya'll want two strokes so bad and think they will make the sport boom, start your ...more

I went several times to the Will Rogers arena where the original Arenacross was held. There was so much smoke in there I probably got lead poisoning.

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5/6/2018 7:42 PM

I went Saturday night and was kind of dumbfounded at the lack of crowd. The event would have been a great night of racing, until Blose got hurt. This was a tight series going into the night and while it's not MX or SX, its still racing 2 wheels on dirt with jumps, whoops, etc. I actually like the tight racing and action. I like the format. If there was a race in AZ, I would most certainly go every year. It's just lacking something as a whole (not the racing) and the crowd was super lame.

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