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Edited Date/Time 5/9/2016 6:10pm
Combining east and west shootout championship races= terrible idea

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jmx411 5/7/2016 9:29pm
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Fairness to the riders= yes terrible idea.

Drama for fans= I like it.

I feel bad for even typing that.
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scott_nz 5/7/2016 9:39pm
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Motodave15 wrote:
Combining east and west shootout championship races= terrible idea

Disagree. Made some excitement. The right guys still won titles.
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seth505 5/7/2016 9:42pm
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Motodave15 wrote:
Combining east and west shootout championship races= terrible idea

scott_nz wrote:
Disagree. Made some excitement. The right guys still won titles.
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blusmbl 5/7/2016 10:13pm
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I loved it. Between it and the mud this is the most entertaining race of the year.
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I liked it.
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moto282 5/7/2016 10:32pm
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I liked it too. Would've been better if not a mudder to see how they matched up but still a good change.
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CarlinoJoeVideo 5/7/2016 10:34pm
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I thought it was amazing! Glad I wasn't racing it, but watching it was awesome!
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early 5/7/2016 10:34pm
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What if 250 East and West Championship were combined for all 17 rounds, that would be awesome!!!
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bsharkey 5/7/2016 10:56pm
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I think it sucks for all the privateers who take that long drive down today. its already a tough one to make let alone what the weather conditions did to those guys
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Crush 5/8/2016 1:10am
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I think it'd be cool to change up the structure for the small class.

6 races each of just coastal... and 5 races combined. Each is an 11 race series, 2 regional champs and a shoot out cup winner.

It was cool to see how they might stack up, and a bit of a throw back to late 90s where they raced maybe 3/4 times a year... but if you keep it sorta split, you don't lose all the extra jobs and rides the regional system provides for.
Racer_Twentynine 5/8/2016 6:22am
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early wrote:
What if 250 East and West Championship were combined for all 17 rounds, that would be awesome!!!
That's like someone asking what day does Friday the 13th fall on......

Facepalm.

If they were combined all 17 rounds it wouldn't be east/west
captaincrunchy 5/8/2016 6:31am
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Bad for the riders, great for the fans. Hence, you guys liked the added excitement.

And yet, you guys hate the chase?

Makes perfect sense.

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early 5/8/2016 6:39am
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Racer_Twentynine wrote:
That's like someone asking what day does Friday the 13th fall on......

Facepalm.

If they were combined all 17 rounds it wouldn't be east/west
Thats the point, do away with the East/West championship.
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Katoomey 5/8/2016 6:40am
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captaincrunchy wrote:
Bad for the riders, great for the fans. Hence, you guys liked the added excitement.

And yet, you guys hate the chase?

Makes perfect sense.

So...every person that likes the east/west shootout has, for a fact, spoken out against the chase? Or...are you just talking out of your ass?

Not only that, but the east/west shootout has nothing in common with a chase format.

You might want to check the pilot light on your stove or water heater. I think your breathing in gas fumes.
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Mr. Info 5/8/2016 6:44am
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A great 250 race. The mud made the difference. We saw the fastest riders in America look like the normal joe in the mud. SX and MX, it's about having to race not only other riders but the elements. That's real racing not some over groomed track. Best race to watch on tv since the Daytona mud race.
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71Fish 5/8/2016 6:48am
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I really liked it, but I'm just a fan, never raced so my opinion is obviously moot.

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Sully22 5/8/2016 7:01am
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love it! I've been wanting them to do this for years. lets the fans see the best of the best go at it in the 250's as opposed to meaningless combined E/W shootout races in years past

I really hope they stick with this. they have messed with the 250's finale way too much in recent years. sometimes it's a meaningless shootout, other times it a separate 250 E and W final, and now they've put this new twist on the racing.
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Crush 5/8/2016 7:03am
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kkawboy14 wrote:
When was the last Honda championship?
Bogle, Hahn, Tomac, Barcia, Canard
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71Fish 5/8/2016 7:14am
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Sully22 wrote:
love it! I've been wanting them to do this for years. lets the fans see the best of the best go at it in the 250's...
love it! I've been wanting them to do this for years. lets the fans see the best of the best go at it in the 250's as opposed to meaningless combined E/W shootout races in years past

I really hope they stick with this. they have messed with the 250's finale way too much in recent years. sometimes it's a meaningless shootout, other times it a separate 250 E and W final, and now they've put this new twist on the racing.
I've always felt the same about the shootout. It's like the NFL Probowl or NASCAR Allstar race where it's cool to win but doesn't really mean anything.
captaincrunchy 5/8/2016 4:50pm
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Katoomey wrote:
So...every person that likes the east/west shootout has, for a fact, spoken out against the chase? Or...are you just talking out of your ass? Not only...
So...every person that likes the east/west shootout has, for a fact, spoken out against the chase? Or...are you just talking out of your ass?

Not only that, but the east/west shootout has nothing in common with a chase format.

You might want to check the pilot light on your stove or water heater. I think your breathing in gas fumes.
The debate isn't the shootout, it's that the two classes are being combined and that it impacts the points.

Clearly you are the one that has the issue connecting the dots. Also, it is quite apparent from your inability to use the correct you'RE.

Have fun at school tomorrow kiddo!
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Motodave15 5/8/2016 4:55pm
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captaincrunchy wrote:
The debate isn't the shootout, it's that the two classes are being combined and that it impacts the points. Clearly you are the one that has...
The debate isn't the shootout, it's that the two classes are being combined and that it impacts the points.

Clearly you are the one that has the issue connecting the dots. Also, it is quite apparent from your inability to use the correct you'RE.

Have fun at school tomorrow kiddo!
Finally someone who gets it
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S.Loyer 5/8/2016 5:04pm
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captaincrunchy wrote:
The debate isn't the shootout, it's that the two classes are being combined and that it impacts the points. Clearly you are the one that has...
The debate isn't the shootout, it's that the two classes are being combined and that it impacts the points.

Clearly you are the one that has the issue connecting the dots. Also, it is quite apparent from your inability to use the correct you'RE.

Have fun at school tomorrow kiddo!
Debunking the man with a rebuttal based on his use of your. Solid argument.
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I totally disagree. I think they should have at least 3 rounds of this. Only reason I was looking forward to watching the race.
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Motodave15 5/8/2016 5:42pm
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johnnypotato123 wrote:
and why is it so terrible?
It turned out awesome because of the mud.

But you're combining 2 different race's into 1 deciding race... so lets say next year we get a simialr battle where the 250s have to win a championship on that night.... both close in points and lets say both points leaders get taken out by someone from the different coast's who they haven't raced against all year and they cant salvage the position needed to clinch.. and you essentially screw them out of a title. that's fair?
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Sully 5/8/2016 6:32pm
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johnnypotato123 wrote:
and why is it so terrible?
Motodave15 wrote:
It turned out awesome because of the mud. But you're combining 2 different race's into 1 deciding race... so lets say next year we get a...
It turned out awesome because of the mud.

But you're combining 2 different race's into 1 deciding race... so lets say next year we get a simialr battle where the 250s have to win a championship on that night.... both close in points and lets say both points leaders get taken out by someone from the different coast's who they haven't raced against all year and they cant salvage the position needed to clinch.. and you essentially screw them out of a title. that's fair?
So what happens if some kid only qualifies for a couple of races on his coast - Vegas being one of them - and he takes out the points leader? Are they "screwed out of a title" because they've never raced with the kid before? It's racing, and sometimes shit happens. I personally like the idea of combining the two coasts (full disclosure; I'd like to see the 250s race all 17 rounds).
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hoppsan 5/8/2016 6:59pm
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So the argument that scoring points in the shootout is a bad idea is because someone from another imaginary coast might take a rider out, and this would somehow be more likely and more upsetting than a rider from the same imaginary coast doing said stuff? Got it.

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