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From Racer X:
"...Brandon Hartranft was docked 11 positions for cutting the track after the first turn pile-up in the main...According to the FIM’s John Gallagher, this penalty was deduced because Hartranft was behind Lorenzo Locurcio going into the first turn, but Locurcio stayed on the track and went around the wreck while Hartranft just went through the first turn to skip all of it. We noticed that Hartranft actually slowed down a bit and let a few riders go by him, but apparently that wasn’t enough. They penalized him to finish behind Locurcio in the final results."
So hypothetically, if Locurcio would have had an awesome night and moved up to 1st place, does that mean Hartranft would have been penalized to 2nd place?
"...Brandon Hartranft was docked 11 positions for cutting the track after the first turn pile-up in the main...According to the FIM’s John Gallagher, this penalty was deduced because Hartranft was behind Lorenzo Locurcio going into the first turn, but Locurcio stayed on the track and went around the wreck while Hartranft just went through the first turn to skip all of it. We noticed that Hartranft actually slowed down a bit and let a few riders go by him, but apparently that wasn’t enough. They penalized him to finish behind Locurcio in the final results."
So hypothetically, if Locurcio would have had an awesome night and moved up to 1st place, does that mean Hartranft would have been penalized to 2nd place?
Ultimately, I think Hartranft received such a severe penalty for the exact opposite reason that one would penalize positions: because his position didn't matter.
The Shop
Small team guy cuts corner to safely avoid similar shitfest, slows and lets riders by before re-entering: 11 positions.
Agree with this but would think they could use the transponder and get each lap time - start behind Locurcio and track the time and it will give you the placement. Not perfect but better than just putting him behind Lucurcio because there was 20+1 racing after that.
You’re right. You won this topic.
IMO, Hartranft did do a half assed attempt at letting the riders by. He should have been more deliberate in calling out his own foul and should have let the entire group that didn't crash by him. Maybe even raise his hand while rolling the rhythm to signal to the competition and officials that he's letting them by.
Common sense.
Riders wouldn’t cut the track again.
Pit Row
Once again, I am perfectly fine with this penalty if it was functional as part of an even remotely uniform application of rules. It is not.
1. The penalty for gaining an advantage while off course during a race will be the loss of number of positions gained plus one additional position in the final results for that race. If no positions were gained, the penalty will be the loss of one position in the final results for that race.
It was concluded that he had gained 13 positions (by using #44 as the first opportunity #114 would have had to cross back to where he left), but gave back 3 by slowing. That leaves 10, plus one penalty spot, as the rule states.
This is the same way Plessinger was penalized, this year, and also Savatgy, last year.
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