If motocross bikes had this suspension...

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7/18/2017 10:14 PM

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7/18/2017 10:48 PM

Now that is unreal.

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7/18/2017 10:59 PM

...if anyone would do it, it would be KTM.

..if they haven't already...

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7/19/2017 12:09 AM

Long live KTM...

Hydraulics are archaic....






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7/19/2017 12:18 AM

Honda would do it and show it's possible. Then never use it. Or put it on their Robot lol

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7/19/2017 5:06 AM

That is awesome! Thanks for sharing.

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7/19/2017 5:29 AM

That's a really old video and the technology was really ahead of its time. I believe they never put it into production because of how expensive it would be, mostly due to all of the sensors and cameras. With the rise of autonomous vehicles though, this may become much less expensive since the autonomous pilot system needs all of those cameras and sensors too. Maybe we'll see something like this on a Tesla some day.

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7/19/2017 8:35 AM

That is awesome!!! I would love to have that in my car or on my bike. Can you imagine that on a Mx bike?? Whoops, no problem anymore..

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7/19/2017 8:50 AM

That is pretty dang cool right there. Had no idea Bose did things like this.

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7/19/2017 8:54 AM

OEM's and Tier 1's been working on this for a long time. Alot of cars using active ride suspension. My buddy works for ZF and they have some new versions coming out here in the next few years like this.

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7/19/2017 9:01 AM

Yeah it is used in some higher end production vehicles already. I've had experience with it through my job. I'm not really a fan. I think it is overcomplicated for the task and there is pretty much no failsafe. If the sensors or electromagnets have any kind of issue, your suspension is non-existent as I understand it.

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7/19/2017 11:11 AM

Voodoo!

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7/19/2017 11:14 AM

It's so good it looks fake, this is the future of suspension for all vehicles! Hydraulics could never produce results like this active suspension!

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7/19/2017 11:19 AM

As already stated, this isn't new technology. The idea has been around for decades.

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7/19/2017 11:48 AM

The magnetic fluid is ridiculously expensive! Also, with rider input for bike attitude, you would think that system would be useless for dirt bikes.

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7/19/2017 11:52 AM

This being Vital and all, I have to note that the car performed a seat bounce using nothing but springs.




Cue the "Not this shit again" GIFs in 3....2.....1.....

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7/19/2017 12:00 PM

racingfortheson wrote:

Now that is unreal.

My thoughts exactly

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7/19/2017 1:09 PM

If bikes had that they'd weigh like 1500 lbs and would likely need an onboard generator. But those whoops.

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7/19/2017 1:24 PM

ehr400 wrote:

OEM's and Tier 1's been working on this for a long time. Alot of cars using active ride suspension. My buddy works for ZF and they have some new versions coming out here in the next few years like this.

Yep.

Mercedes comes to mind, they've had active roll control for like 10 years now on some models, and the new A8 elevates itself in the event of an impending crash. All cool stuff, but totally useless for moto.

First of all, it would be super expensive and heavy
Second, heat dissipation would probably be an issue
Third, I don't think most would like it because you would eliminate any sort of feedback or feel, and would probably feel really inconsistent
Finally, it wouldn't work as well on a track with ruts and shadows


I would be more interested in a system like the Koenigsegg Agera that uses GPS coordinates to fine tune the suspension dampening for different parts of the track. This could actually work because you have certain sections of the track, like the whoops, that require unique settings that don't really work for the rest of the track. If I could select between 2 or three settings, just like with my ECU, and pre-program where on the track to switch, I could definitely see a potential for that.

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7/19/2017 1:46 PM

If you could overcome the hurtles and make it small enough for MX then it will revolutionize the industry. It's going to happen it's only a matter of time and money.

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7/19/2017 1:47 PM

Falcon wrote:

This being Vital and all, I have to note that the car performed a seat bounce using nothing but springs.




Cue the "Not this shit again" GIFs in 3....2.....1.....

That was a bunny hop, but it wasn't a VW Rabbit.

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7/19/2017 2:19 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/19/2017 2:20 PM

Hydrolastic suspension, Mini's had that back in the 60s....

Would be mega through the whoops, might be a bit strange staying level up a take off haha

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7/19/2017 3:46 PM

The best part of riding, to me anyway, is figuring out lines as a track gets rougher. Hopping braking bumps, using acceleration chop to put the bike in a different line. If I wanted to be a road racer, I could. But moto is great because it's hard.

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7/19/2017 6:10 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/19/2017 6:11 PM

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7/19/2017 6:28 PM

Also ungodly heavy from what I remember reading

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7/21/2017 10:55 PM

Even power failure will not ruin suspension!


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7/22/2017 1:18 AM

Made me think of Reiger ICS rear suspension. Probably works a bit different but it's an intelligent rear shock that reacts on bumps/chop to keep traction with the rear wheel. Pretty sure that kind of tech is used a lot in MXGP racing.

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