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joe846
12/11/2017 2:07pm
12/11/2017 2:07pm
In the past it seemed like A Kit suspension was really, really tough to get second hand outside of Southern California for years. I remember people freaking out of getting Ohlins forks in the road race world...
Over time that's changed, with different levels of accessibility (ecommerce) and with KYB & Showa seeing how a larger channel has fueled consumer appetite. Still, you'd don't see this stuff just floating around.
Now though, WP Cone Valves seem to have flooded the market and are showing up in all types of racing and across all of "for sale" forums. Is this just because WP produces 99% of their stuff for one brand while KYB & Showa span a few brands? Or is it the KTM buyer who has more funds and is more willing to try expensive suspension?
Either way, if CV's are so good why are so many for sales?
Over time that's changed, with different levels of accessibility (ecommerce) and with KYB & Showa seeing how a larger channel has fueled consumer appetite. Still, you'd don't see this stuff just floating around.
Now though, WP Cone Valves seem to have flooded the market and are showing up in all types of racing and across all of "for sale" forums. Is this just because WP produces 99% of their stuff for one brand while KYB & Showa span a few brands? Or is it the KTM buyer who has more funds and is more willing to try expensive suspension?
Either way, if CV's are so good why are so many for sales?
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Moisture-wicking fabric provides a soft, lightweight fit
Favorite fork period would still be a kit KYB PSF1.
WP CVs are best I have ever run in my bike but now I have been just using WP AER48 and saved extra money for second bike.
Brand new WP trax shock - $2,500
You can buy them separately.
Showa A kit purchased from pro circuit:
Must buy forks/shock together and will also need triple clamps and axle.
~$11,000
Pit Row
I bought a brand new 2015 Husqvarna TC250, and sold the ridden once OEM 4CS forks and WP shock for a total of 1100 GBP. I didn't like it at all. I then picked up an 9.5 out of 10 condition Ohlins RFX fork and TTX shock for 1,500 GBP and had the Ohlins sprung for me, with the tuner telling me not to bother re-valving as it was in the ballpark for me and the sheer number of click adjustments would allow me to dial it in. Service and springs was another 350 GBP.
All in, I had a set of far superior suspension tailored to me for not much more than it would have paid to set-up (and still be unhappy with) the stock stuff, and I was able to use it on a number of different bikes and then sell it for pretty much what I paid for it.
For me, the reason there's so many CV in circulation is that KTM is really good about interchangeability between it's models, combined with the strong resale value. I would think very differently about spending c.11k for new A Kit from PC when I would only get a fraction of that back if I wanted to sell it a year down the line.
And don't let the quantity for sale on the market fool you, they are awesome!
So a large high speed hit's energy can displace the cone a lot further and take the sting out of it. To setup a conventional piston the same with low float etc results in fatiguing the shims early.
CV's were an easy choice for me, I have no plans to swap from Husky/KTM hence buy one set of good forks and swap from bike to bike. The swap from larger to smaller axle saw a lot of CV's hit the market with teams swapping to the newer axle size.
My current bike will have my CV's fitted (when back from kashima coating) and revalved stock shock.
So, if you can find a licensed pro to apply you can buy the same stuff the factory 250 teams are running, including the same Showa forks/shock that ProCircuit sells, apparently at quite a cost savings. Obviously, they'll still need to be tuned.
I'm not saying any of this stuff is better, just that it's an attempt by the AMA to help level the playing field in the 250 class.
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