If Keefer races outdoors where does he finish?

BroFoSho wrote:

A few years ago Brett Cue tried to qualify at Washougal and couldn't make the fast 40. Keefer will be in the unseeded practice with a...

A few years ago Brett Cue tried to qualify at Washougal and couldn't make the fast 40.

Keefer will be in the unseeded practice with a lot of young kids not afraid to hold the throttle wide open. It'll be cool if he makes it in... but that's also a big ask.

Derek Harris wrote:

It's nearly impossible to compare times without being there in person and seeing the track conditions and moto ride times BUT - at loretta's in 2017...

It's nearly impossible to compare times without being there in person and seeing the track conditions and moto ride times

BUT - at loretta's in 2017 keefer raced

http://lorettas17.tracksideresults.com/class.asp?c=197&e=1

If you compare all three motos - vs browny - we can get an idea where he possibly can be
In moto1 and 2 brown went nearly the same speed 1:59 and 2:00

Third moto the track was obviously tougher - with brown doing a 2:05

In the first moto Keefer was close - 2:03
Second he was 2:08
Third 2:15

Looking at A class - fastest laps were similar (who knows about condition - I was there that year and some motos were pretty muddy depending what time and day you rode)

That said in a class - all the way back to 15th is faster laps than keefer respectively when moto fast time was about same as brownie. The nationals are deeper than that. A local texas talent - curren thurman is blazing fast.
He top 5d 450 A At loretta's in 2018. At his 1 and only outdoor to date - he qualified around 20th.

I'd be impressed as all get out if Keefer can run curren's pace....that's just ridiculous at 40 (and possible)

So Im now going to say their is hope! If he rattles of a perfect lap when the track isn't totally hammered, I think he can squeak in.

Derek Harris wrote:

It's nearly impossible to compare times without being there in person and seeing the track conditions and moto ride times BUT - at loretta's in 2017...

It's nearly impossible to compare times without being there in person and seeing the track conditions and moto ride times

BUT - at loretta's in 2017 keefer raced

http://lorettas17.tracksideresults.com/class.asp?c=197&e=1

If you compare all three motos - vs browny - we can get an idea where he possibly can be
In moto1 and 2 brown went nearly the same speed 1:59 and 2:00

Third moto the track was obviously tougher - with brown doing a 2:05

In the first moto Keefer was close - 2:03
Second he was 2:08
Third 2:15

Looking at A class - fastest laps were similar (who knows about condition - I was there that year and some motos were pretty muddy depending what time and day you rode)

That said in a class - all the way back to 15th is faster laps than keefer respectively when moto fast time was about same as brownie. The nationals are deeper than that. A local texas talent - curren thurman is blazing fast.
He top 5d 450 A At loretta's in 2018. At his 1 and only outdoor to date - he qualified around 20th.

I'd be impressed as all get out if Keefer can run curren's pace....that's just ridiculous at 40 (and possible)

So Im now going to say their is hope! If he rattles of a perfect lap when the track isn't totally hammered, I think he can squeak in.

early wrote:

Keefer said he wasn't really prepared for the east coast dirt/rut conditions at Loretta's when he raced it. He should be more competitive at the California...

Keefer said he wasn't really prepared for the east coast dirt/rut conditions at Loretta's when he raced it. He should be more competitive at the California tracks, hopefully

Derek Harris wrote:

It's nearly impossible to compare times without being there in person and seeing the track conditions and moto ride times BUT - at loretta's in 2017...

It's nearly impossible to compare times without being there in person and seeing the track conditions and moto ride times

BUT - at loretta's in 2017 keefer raced

http://lorettas17.tracksideresults.com/class.asp?c=197&e=1

If you compare all three motos - vs browny - we can get an idea where he possibly can be
In moto1 and 2 brown went nearly the same speed 1:59 and 2:00

Third moto the track was obviously tougher - with brown doing a 2:05

In the first moto Keefer was close - 2:03
Second he was 2:08
Third 2:15

Looking at A class - fastest laps were similar (who knows about condition - I was there that year and some motos were pretty muddy depending what time and day you rode)

That said in a class - all the way back to 15th is faster laps than keefer respectively when moto fast time was about same as brownie. The nationals are deeper than that. A local texas talent - curren thurman is blazing fast.
He top 5d 450 A At loretta's in 2018. At his 1 and only outdoor to date - he qualified around 20th.

I'd be impressed as all get out if Keefer can run curren's pace....that's just ridiculous at 40 (and possible)

So Im now going to say their is hope! If he rattles of a perfect lap when the track isn't totally hammered, I think he can squeak in.

early wrote:

Keefer said he wasn't really prepared for the east coast dirt/rut conditions at Loretta's when he raced it. He should be more competitive at the California...

Keefer said he wasn't really prepared for the east coast dirt/rut conditions at Loretta's when he raced it. He should be more competitive at the California tracks, hopefully

Derek Harris wrote:

Loretta's is "soft" but by our stds its hardpack clay base Much like hangtown looks to me along with highpoint, Muddy creek (gone) and freestone Anyways...

Loretta's is "soft" but by our stds its hardpack clay base

Much like hangtown looks to me along with highpoint, Muddy creek (gone) and freestone

Anyways - I think the cooler thing we should do for Keefer is have a "if he makes it fund"

Anyone want to start that up - little extra incentive for the guy?

Dimblewambie wrote:

In the points all 4 motos. Stamped

dickjackson170 wrote:

Is this a serious question? No points and not very likely he even qualifies.

dickjackson170 wrote:

Is this a serious question? No points and not very likely he even qualifies.

yak651 wrote:

Have you seen him ride lately? I haven't so don't have an opinion if he can qualify/how he would do, but just curious of those that...

Have you seen him ride lately? I haven't so don't have an opinion if he can qualify/how he would do, but just curious of those that say no chance if they have (especially from Ohio). Good luck Keefer!

Paul333 wrote:

I read/watch everything Keefer puts out. The dude is simply outstanding. Obviously fast as well based on his Vet National Pro class results. I strongly prefer...

I read/watch everything Keefer puts out. The dude is simply outstanding. Obviously fast as well based on his Vet National Pro class results. I strongly prefer to read tests from riders who race. How else do I gauge a review?

I predict 18th(ish) in both motos.

Paul333 wrote:

I read/watch everything Keefer puts out. The dude is simply outstanding. Obviously fast as well based on his Vet National Pro class results. I strongly prefer...

I read/watch everything Keefer puts out. The dude is simply outstanding. Obviously fast as well based on his Vet National Pro class results. I strongly prefer to read tests from riders who race. How else do I gauge a review?

I predict 18th(ish) in both motos.

IDMegaMoto wrote:

I know he is disappointed by his end results, but I wish he knew how many people were inspired by his entire effort...from the way he...

I know he is disappointed by his end results, but I wish he knew how many people were inspired by his entire effort...from the way he prepared to the way he dealt with the reality of the level of competition. He showed himself as a very honorable guy...long after the relevance of these two race results have faded away...many, many people will still hold on to the new found respect for Kris Keefer. For that...he and his family should be very proud.