I thought I blew up my 450...

vanillaice782 4/23/2015 12:40pm
4/23/2015 12:40pm
500guy wrote:
it doesn't matter what bike a person rides, the faster and harder He rides the more shit will break and if the upkeep isn't there then...
it doesn't matter what bike a person rides, the faster and harder He rides the more shit will break and if the upkeep isn't there then it's all just a disaster waiting to happen.

for a guy like Me the 4 stroke really was fun to ride and I rode many more hours without any engine repairs than I ever did on a 2 stroke.
That's why I ride my 250f so slow!....I'm just trying to preserve the engine.
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Daystar99 4/23/2015 1:01pm
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huck wrote:
But it was just the timing chain tensioner.

I love 4 strokes. So that puts my total parts investment for 6 years at $59.00.
crf250pilot wrote:
Better check your cam chain on that ticking time bomb, wait until it skips a tooth and causes a catastrophic explosion of unknown proportions.
I've got 75 hours on my '15 CRF450. With the 2016's still five months away, I'll have about 130 hours on it before I can get a new one at this rate. I'm playing four stroke roulette in my head here wondering if I risk it or spend the $800 or so on a new top end. I love four strokes too, but damn.
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pecu_83 4/23/2015 1:03pm
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This is from my RM125. Top end has 10 hours on it. Started to make a funny noise, so I stopped riding. I thought it was crank bearings, but as you can see from the pic there was a huge play between the piston and the pin. Now i bought a Wiseco... Should last much longer.



I´ve had 4 strokes and 2 strokes. Love both. In the big picture and a longer timespan, I think both are pretty much the same cost to upkeep. When you throw in gas, gear, insurance etc. there is no difference to me.

Let it be 2 stroke or 4 stroke, it`ll take all your money. Just ride hard and enjoy Motocross!! Wink
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Spartacus 4/23/2015 1:49pm
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I also find my bikes need very little maintenance if I don't ride them much.

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huck 4/23/2015 1:51pm
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Spartacus wrote:
I also find my bikes need very little maintenance if I don't ride them much.
Yes, there's always that! Wink
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yak651 4/23/2015 4:31pm
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Spartacus wrote:
I also find my bikes need very little maintenance if I don't ride them much.
huck wrote:
Yes, there's always that! Wink
Your riding gear also last a lot longer when you don't ride much Wink
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Piston Slap 4/23/2015 5:23pm
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huck wrote:
But it was just the timing chain tensioner.

I love 4 strokes. So that puts my total parts investment for 6 years at $59.00.
So, Huck. .. Are you lucky or just good?

I think you are lucky as heck!!!!

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DPR250R 4/23/2015 5:26pm
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Anyone still use manual tensioners?
One Last Comeback 4/23/2015 5:58pm
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What's funny is when I went from an XR80 to an RM80 all the kids told me that a 2-stroke takes much more money and time. Because you are always doing top ends. So I thought of two-strokes as the high-dollar machine.
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Nighttrain 4/23/2015 6:04pm
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huck wrote:
But it was just the timing chain tensioner.

I love 4 strokes. So that puts my total parts investment for 6 years at $59.00.
Big Lenny and his CR500 would lap you...twice.
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Hut 4/23/2015 6:17pm
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What? No, I hadn't heard that!
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huck wrote:
But it was just the timing chain tensioner.

I love 4 strokes. So that puts my total parts investment for 6 years at $59.00.
Nighttrain wrote:
Big Lenny and his CR500 would lap you...twice.
Don't bet on it......
look out below 4/23/2015 7:08pm
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MxKing809 wrote:
What's really fun is when the decompression mechanism on a KX450 comes apart, comes through the head cover, binds up snapping the chain, and then bunches...
What's really fun is when the decompression mechanism on a KX450 comes apart, comes through the head cover, binds up snapping the chain, and then bunches up the chain in the bottom end..... thats a really good time..... Pinch

Glad to hear you escaped with your wallet intact!!!
I had a friend that happened to on his 06.....three laps after buying it new!
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seth505 wrote:
This is why I come here, riveting threads such as this. I can't wait to tell you guys when I change my chain and sprockets, stay...
This is why I come here, riveting threads such as this. I can't wait to tell you guys when I change my chain and sprockets, stay tuned!!
Hahahahaha
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kripple428 4/23/2015 7:37pm
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I have had my kawi 450 since 2010 rode it just about every weekend since and I've never even adjusted the valves. I have all the parts to rebuild the top end just never got to the point I felt like I needed to. It still has good compression and starts on the first 3 kicks every time. I consider myself to be a decent rider. I think the main reason it has held together so well is I change the oil every 3 rides and I'm not very hard on the bike I ride a lot more in the low end than most people sections of the tracks where most people are in second I'm in third so it never really gets revved too hard.
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500guy wrote:
it doesn't matter what bike a person rides, the faster and harder He rides the more shit will break and if the upkeep isn't there then...
it doesn't matter what bike a person rides, the faster and harder He rides the more shit will break and if the upkeep isn't there then it's all just a disaster waiting to happen.

for a guy like Me the 4 stroke really was fun to ride and I rode many more hours without any engine repairs than I ever did on a 2 stroke.
This^

Not to many people can ride a 450 hard enough to hurt it.

But they can dam sure hurt it if they are not capable of doing some simple routine maintenance.
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Steve 396 4/23/2015 9:01pm
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kripple428 wrote:
I have had my kawi 450 since 2010 rode it just about every weekend since and I've never even adjusted the valves. I have all the...
I have had my kawi 450 since 2010 rode it just about every weekend since and I've never even adjusted the valves. I have all the parts to rebuild the top end just never got to the point I felt like I needed to. It still has good compression and starts on the first 3 kicks every time. I consider myself to be a decent rider. I think the main reason it has held together so well is I change the oil every 3 rides and I'm not very hard on the bike I ride a lot more in the low end than most people sections of the tracks where most people are in second I'm in third so it never really gets revved too hard.
I have had good luck like you. I don't ride quite as much but I had an 06 CRF 450 and I am willing to be it had 200+ hour on it when I sold it and had the valves adjusted once. Like you I change the oil every 2 rides and air filter every ride. Maintenance is the key.

BTW, the rest of you... Ride what makes you happy!

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huck 4/24/2015 7:19am
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huck wrote:
But it was just the timing chain tensioner.

I love 4 strokes. So that puts my total parts investment for 6 years at $59.00.
Nighttrain wrote:
Big Lenny and his CR500 would lap you...twice.
I thought he was on a factory bike....that he found in the alley...
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huck 4/24/2015 7:22am
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huck wrote:
But it was just the timing chain tensioner.

I love 4 strokes. So that puts my total parts investment for 6 years at $59.00.
Piston Slap wrote:
So, Huck. .. Are you lucky or just good?

I think you are lucky as heck!!!!

I think it's been a great machine. Before the last month and a half, I hadn't even started it in about a year.... Fresh oil, filter, and fuel, and it started on the 5th kick.

While I agree I'm not the fastest on the track (fast C rider/slow Cool , I do have fun almost every time I go out. Smile
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Skerby 4/24/2015 12:55pm
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My two stroke boner just went limp.
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Cygnus 4/24/2015 12:59pm
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You are a lucky guy Huck. I am still riding my 06 450 still haven't had to adjust the valves with just over 130 hours on her. I will probably do a hi comp piston soon just so I can get a good look at the other parts in there. If it looks good though I may just reassemble with new timing chain and adjuster for safety.
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OW38B 4/24/2015 1:23pm
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scrubbin627 wrote:
They all blow up and cost money eventually.
For sure......just some more than others. Shocked
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on my 250 2t I do the whole top end at least twice a year. If I don't, I risk having the piston fall apart in the cases. On the other hand this has happened more than a couple times and all it takes is a bit of time to clean out, split cases, replace crank bearings, etc. 4 stroke if this happens your screwed out of a lot of monies but probably wont happen as often. Keep your shit full of good oil and dont overheat things. Neither is too bad on maintenance if your nice to em. also, if you ever ride where there is snow try your best not to let it touch your cylinder, things go boom when its smokin hot inside and freezing on the outsideWink I live in Canada, ask me how I know...

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