I think the top 3 on the MXGP circuit could quite possibly come

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11/10/2021 9:58 PM

to the US and dominate the Americans on any given Saturday and do it consistently.

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11/10/2021 11:12 PM

Outdoors? Quite possibly. But that's because AMA Pros are almost singularly focused on Supercross. The skillsets are very different. Right or wrong. That's just the way it is. JMO.

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11/10/2021 11:28 PM

MyBobbym wrote:

to the US and dominate the Americans on any given Saturday and do it consistently.

I’d say top 5 outdoors if they came over

If they would get through the 9 months of super cross first is an entirely different matter

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11/10/2021 11:56 PM

No doubt the top 3 are hauling! Impressive stuff.

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11/11/2021 3:45 AM

At certain tracks, no doubt Herlings, Febvre, Gajser, could be the podium.
Every weekend? I think Tomac, Roczen and Ferrandis would have something to say about that.

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11/11/2021 6:05 AM

MyBobbym wrote:

to the US and dominate the Americans on any given Saturday and do it consistently.

As others said right now? For sure. If focus was split? I think they would be contenders outdoors but wouldn’t do very well indoors. It’s hard to compare when one side of the pond is 100% outdoors and the other is 75/25

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11/11/2021 6:42 AM

Gross thread title bro...

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11/11/2021 6:56 AM
Edited Date/Time: 11/11/2021 7:49 AM

MyBobbym wrote:

to the US and dominate the Americans on any given Saturday and do it consistently.

I hate this comment.

But you are probably correct.

Tomac, Webb, Roczen, were all off their ALL-TIME great pace this year Outdoors and Ferrandis took them all to the woodshed. I've seen each of them in better form previously.

If Herlings, Febvre and Gaiser showed up to our last Outdoor national with the pace they have been running in MXGP lately, I think we'd see another Herlings Ironman 2017 type of performance... I've not seen those guys ever ride better than they are now.

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11/11/2021 7:19 AM

MyBobbym wrote:

to the US and dominate the Americans on any given Saturday and do it consistently.

scott_nz wrote:

I’d say top 5 outdoors if they came over

If they would get through the 9 months of super cross first is an entirely ...more

You mean top 5 if all 3 come over right? Any of those 3 are when healthy going to be title candidates and top 3 if only one of them comes over.

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11/11/2021 7:35 AM
Edited Date/Time: 11/11/2021 7:35 AM

Saturdays January thru April would be tough for them at first.

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11/11/2021 7:38 AM

So you think the 3 best 450 riders in the World Championship could "possibly" be top 5 in a national championship ? Please, tell us more.

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11/11/2021 9:12 AM

Not an excuse but in the US teams and riders don’t care about outdoors as much as SX because SX is the premier series. Because of this our riders will not stray to far away from their SX settings for the outdoors. The riders in the GPs are racing their premier series and are the best in the world because of this.

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11/11/2021 9:40 AM

I think old fuckers on vital care more than the guys riding the bikes. I imagine as long as top guys checks clear, they don't give a shit.

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11/11/2021 9:52 AM

Richy wrote:

Gross thread title bro...

He knows for a fact

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11/11/2021 10:04 AM

BobbyM you remind me of Bill Cosby.

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11/11/2021 11:12 AM

spojetski wrote:

So you think the 3 best 450 riders in the World Championship could "possibly" be top 5 in a national championship ? Please, ...more

The AMA series might as well be a world championship. Let's call it the MX version of World Superbike.

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11/11/2021 11:19 AM

stremme12 wrote:

Saturdays January thru April would be tough for them at first.

Yup....I doubt they would last an entire SX series. I consider SX as the Pinnacle of dirt bike riding.

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11/11/2021 11:22 AM
Edited Date/Time: 11/11/2021 10:33 PM

stremme12 wrote:

Saturdays January thru April would be tough for them at first.

Boomslang wrote:

Yup....I doubt they would last an entire SX series. I consider SX as the Pinnacle of dirt bike riding.

Well neither does 50% of the American based top 20-30 riders when we look at the injury list in the end part of the SX season.

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11/11/2021 11:29 AM

Mit12 wrote:

Not an excuse but in the US teams and riders don’t care about outdoors as much as SX because SX is the premier series. Because ...more

Wat? (Not arguing with you)

There is a flipping huge difference between SX suspension and Outdoor suspension.

The Europeans have refined MX setup and don't have the same rules on equipment as the US do hence them becoming the Outdoor specialists in recent years.

If the top 3 Euros came to the US outdoors they would have an equally hard time winning the Championship as anyone in the US does.

My two cents.

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11/11/2021 11:31 AM

stremme12 wrote:

Saturdays January thru April would be tough for them at first.

Boomslang wrote:

Yup....I doubt they would last an entire SX series. I consider SX as the Pinnacle of dirt bike riding.

Motofinne wrote:

Well neither does 50% of the American based top 20-30 riders when we look at the injury list in the end part of the SX season. ...more

Exactly.

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11/11/2021 11:36 AM

People have said that many times before.... and not one euro has ever come in here and straight off crushed us in a series.....

Different worlds.... and the vast majority of them, still won't race sx.....

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11/11/2021 11:38 AM

I’d say Dylan would have something to say but outside of him yeah, they look like a whole different class right now.

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Are you smart enough to buy a bike that costs less, weighs less, makes more horsepower per cubic centimeter, can be rebuilt for recycled aluminum can money and is giggle inducing? It is hard to believe that the American riding public flunks this test en masse. How stupid are you?

11/11/2021 11:42 AM

stremme12 wrote:

Saturdays January thru April would be tough for them at first.

Boomslang wrote:

Yup....I doubt they would last an entire SX series. I consider SX as the Pinnacle of dirt bike riding.

The idea that riders of Herlings, Gajser, Prado etc ability, couldn’t be competitive/survive in a SX season given the adequate time to prepare is absolute nonsense. They have immense talent.

Max Anstie hadn’t raced SX in 8 years, came into the series mid season, nowhere near 100% and on the worst bike in the class and made every main without having to go to an LCQ. It’s not rocket science

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11/11/2021 11:45 AM

gt80rider wrote:

People have said that many times before.... and not one euro has ever come in here and straight off crushed us in a ...more

A good example is Greg Albertyn.

World Championships: 125cc – 1992; 250cc – 1993 and 1994.

Then he came to the US to compete in SX and MX. He got hurt so many times in SX that it took him until 1999 to win the AMA 250cc Outdoor Championship.

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11/11/2021 11:48 AM

MyBobbym wrote:

to the US and dominate the Americans on any given Saturday and do it consistently.

Well ferrandis isn’t American so I guess you’re right

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11/11/2021 12:00 PM

FlaNard wrote:

I’d say Dylan would have something to say but outside of him yeah, they look like a whole different class right now.

What about Roczen, Musquin, Lawrence brothers...

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11/11/2021 12:10 PM
Edited Date/Time: 11/11/2021 12:11 PM

stremme12 wrote:

Saturdays January thru April would be tough for them at first.

Boomslang wrote:

Yup....I doubt they would last an entire SX series. I consider SX as the Pinnacle of dirt bike riding.

RG1 wrote:

The idea that riders of Herlings, Gajser, Prado etc ability, couldn’t be competitive/survive in a SX season given the adequate ...more

I think the point is that their successes in MXGP might not translate as well to supercross. The facts are that supercross titles are harder to come by than outdoor titles in the U.S. Making a main is a lot different than running top 5 and being a threat to win a sx.

I've no doubt that given time to prepare, someone like Gajser or Herlings could do well. But I would also extend that charity to the U.S. based riders if they took the time to prepare for MXGP. They would be competitive given enough time to prepare.

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11/11/2021 12:14 PM

Why is it always they should come to US ? Would to see a guy in shape go to Europe to race.

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11/11/2021 12:52 PM
Edited Date/Time: 11/11/2021 12:53 PM

Wow what a brave and stunning statement Bob. So brave, so edgy.

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Alright Lunger, Let's Do It

11/11/2021 1:04 PM

Are there any BobbyM groupies still out there? Someone tell him the 70's are over.

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