I am a HUGE James Stewart fan, but...

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And I mean HUGE. He's the guy I root for, he's the guy I want to win.

Something is bothering me though. In his interview with GuyB, he keeps referencing "breaking the record" over and over from his Toronto win (which was completely dominant and unbelievably cool). But, seriously, what "record" did he break?

The record for having the second most wins in SX? I don't get it. Did he break a record that I'm unaware of?

Looks to me like he moved into 2nd all time, which is incredible, but not a record.

I'll just shut up now and keep rooting for James whenever he races.
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In a sport where there is now a second place holeshot, there is of course a 2nd place record. He actually broke RCs record so technically it's a record. 2nd place holeshot on the other hand...
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Tbteam 3/27/2014 3:23pm
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But that's my point. RC doesn't hold the "record". JM does. RC is just the guy who used to have the second most wins.

I need to consult the Guinness Book of Second Place Records.

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ts.p311 3/27/2014 3:26pm
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They have RC's stats on "record" and stewart just passed RC's win total. Would you prefer he said "passed the record"?

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peelout 3/27/2014 3:45pm
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60% of the time James Stewart breaks the second place records every time
dazzlindino 3/27/2014 4:10pm
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so lets see...now the record book shows....
SX all time wins.....
JMc
JS
RC......
125/250F all time wins....
JS
RC
MB
All time SX/MX wins....
RC
JS
JMc

He never said he had the all time record for SX....
How pumped would you be to be on these lists.....
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Grizz 3/27/2014 4:15pm
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He beat RC's record...
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Grizz wrote:
He beat RC's record...
Yea, a second place record. The record is MCs.
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Tbteam 3/27/2014 5:00pm
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Grizz wrote:
He beat RC's record...
I guess you could say that.

There's sort of two "kinds" of records.

There is the record that you keep as to everyone's results, and then there is "the record", as in the record that everyone else is shooting for to hold the most wins ever.

He did beat RC's record of wins.

But not "the record".
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GIwasB4 3/27/2014 5:03pm
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72 wins + 1 is a LOOONG way away. That's the record, 2nd place is still the first loser.
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Just keep giving bubba tracks like Toronto. Shits cool to watch Cool
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Grizz 3/27/2014 6:02pm
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Grizz wrote:
He beat RC's record...
Ing wrote:
Yea, a second place record. The record is MCs.
He beat RC's personal record*

It wasn't THE record, just A record Wink
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If you beat the guy in second place...You still didn't win.
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dmenace2014 3/27/2014 6:24pm
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He beat the record for guy's that raced SX and MX, not just SX.
Did you really think a guy that races outdoor MX can get 72 SX wins?
Not Likely.
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IceMan446 3/27/2014 6:32pm
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Tbteam wrote:
But that's my point. RC doesn't hold the "record". JM does. RC is just the guy who used to have the second most wins. I need...
But that's my point. RC doesn't hold the "record". JM does. RC is just the guy who used to have the second most wins.

I need to consult the Guinness Book of Second Place Records.

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So how can you be considered the best ever, if you sit in 3rd place in on of the two series?
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FIREfish148 wrote:
Just keep giving bubba tracks like Toronto. Shits cool to watch Cool
Damn straight, ONLY watched it 4 times now, gets better every time...classic for sure!!

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Like me he is a legend in his own mind,,,,
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Tbteam wrote:
But that's my point. RC doesn't hold the "record". JM does. RC is just the guy who used to have the second most wins. I need...
But that's my point. RC doesn't hold the "record". JM does. RC is just the guy who used to have the second most wins.

I need to consult the Guinness Book of Second Place Records.

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For the "Record" its MC lol
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Tbteam wrote:
But that's my point. RC doesn't hold the "record". JM does. RC is just the guy who used to have the second most wins. I need...
But that's my point. RC doesn't hold the "record". JM does. RC is just the guy who used to have the second most wins.

I need to consult the Guinness Book of Second Place Records.

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IceMan446 wrote:
So how can you be considered the best ever, if you sit in 3rd place in on of the two series?
Because he holds the record that counts! Big bike SX and nationals O/A wins. Also....the most titles combined as well.

Don't forget....if you want to compare Ricky against James..........as far as overall wins and championships go....they are not even close. RC was great at SX.....but in the nationals......not anyone in our life time will match his records.

James has been on the big bikes since 2005. That is a total chance of winning 19 championships ( Only counting 9.5yrs since the 2014 nationals hasn't started yet )........he's won 3. 3 championships out of 19.

Now go look up how many title Ricky won in his stint. Or better yet......look at RV's since he's still racing.

Any more questions?
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Juss 3/27/2014 7:02pm
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GIwasB4 wrote:
72 wins + 1 is a LOOONG way away. That's the record, 2nd place is still the first loser.
What if MC would of been on the Honda in 1997?
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DBerg 3/27/2014 8:09pm
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Well that settles it. JS sucks
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Juss wrote:
What if MC would of been on the Honda in 1997?
What if MC wasn't taken out twice at the Coliseum opener by Lamson or made that unforced error in the Pontiac sand section?
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plowboy 3/27/2014 8:32pm
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Most folks that follow the sport would consider MC's win total, in all practicality, an insurmountable goal. James got past RC which is a high enough bar for mere mortals. McGrath's SX win count is probably unbreakable (until it is).
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bigborefan 3/27/2014 9:05pm
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One should say JS7 moved into second place on the all time SX wins list.
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Personal milestone yes, Record no.
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Tbteam wrote:
But that's my point. RC doesn't hold the "record". JM does. RC is just the guy who used to have the second most wins. I need...
But that's my point. RC doesn't hold the "record". JM does. RC is just the guy who used to have the second most wins.

I need to consult the Guinness Book of Second Place Records.

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IceMan446 wrote:
So how can you be considered the best ever, if you sit in 3rd place in on of the two series?
jeffro503 wrote:
Because he holds the record that counts! Big bike SX and nationals O/A wins. Also....the most titles combined as well. Don't forget....if you want to compare...
Because he holds the record that counts! Big bike SX and nationals O/A wins. Also....the most titles combined as well.

Don't forget....if you want to compare Ricky against James..........as far as overall wins and championships go....they are not even close. RC was great at SX.....but in the nationals......not anyone in our life time will match his records.

James has been on the big bikes since 2005. That is a total chance of winning 19 championships ( Only counting 9.5yrs since the 2014 nationals hasn't started yet )........he's won 3. 3 championships out of 19.

Now go look up how many title Ricky won in his stint. Or better yet......look at RV's since he's still racing.

Any more questions?
+1

RCs achievements are underrated IMO. His stats are huge.
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yzjs7 3/27/2014 9:26pm
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When someone is considered the "goat" and you beat that guys record,you're gonna be pretty darn pumped.

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