Hypothetical question for So. Cal riders

Yes. Hell yes.

In a heartbeat!

Yes. But as you know, it doesn't need to be indoors in OC.
Any outdoor lot with good lights and dust control will do fine. There won't be any noise complaints!

Xeno wrote:

Yes. But as you know, it doesn't need to be indoors in OC.
Any outdoor lot with good lights and dust control will do fine. There won't be any noise complaints!

True but a building has advantages like, a place to lock up and store everything as well as keep everyone out after hours. plus an office space to do the day to day of getting the money, doing all the business part of itWater use would be way less, especially since you could re-use whatever soaked through onto the concrete floor, of course it's have to be sloped into a basin and have an easy way to collect and spray it back on the track, plus maybe AC in the summer ? LOL I also think it's easier to find an unused building than un-used land. A friend had a business plan approved for this but it went south once the epa was involved.

absofuggenloutly! twice a week, minimum.

This is a no-brainer. Make it Happen Captain !!

Xeno wrote:

Yes. But as you know, it doesn't need to be indoors in OC.
Any outdoor lot with good lights and dust control will do fine. There won't be any noise complaints!

Tustin Air Base Hangers - Viewing lounges with couches, Storage unit rentals, Food court, Shops, Swimming Pools, Dancing gIrls

I was thinking more like Camp Pendleton USMC. Security won't be an issue, the locals are well-armed.

PFitzG38 wrote:

Tustin Air Base Hangers - Viewing lounges with couches, Storage unit rentals, Food court, Shops, Swimming Pools, Dancing gIrls

Photo's, lap time printouts, mx video games, mini night with Osets, goggles, boots, gear for sale, a full gym on site, the possibilities are endless. Who's got a couple million or so laying around to get it rolling ?

Wisconsin Loooooong winters would be better than sunny CA

Xeno wrote:

I was thinking more like Camp Pendleton USMC. Security won't be an issue, the locals are well-armed.

USMCMX I like it. Plus 6 minutes from my house ! Sell it as way to train the marines how to ride so they don't wad it up coming home from Big Helens

The K1 of moto? Sign me up. I would gladly pay for my non moto friends to try it out if it was reasonably safe.

Stuntman949 wrote:

The K1 of moto? Sign me up. I would gladly pay for my non moto friends to try it out if it was reasonably safe.

The jumps would be rounded table tops. One idea was to make a standard supercoss triple sized jump, same takeoff and landings but it would be an upward arched tabletop so the rider would never be more than 4 feet or so off the ground if they cleared the whole thing. They'd know just what it feels like to clear a supercross triple, without any chance of coming up short. The goal being to get repeat customers and keep cartwheeling bikes to a minimum lol

I don't think there will be a place where you'll actually be able to make a profit in populated areas. Competing with developers in socal has you at a disadvantage from the start. The space needed for Moto is going to be a lot more than karts, and there's no way you'll get the same amount of traffic coming in. However, it would be cool to use ebikes to open saddleback back up.

Yup, I back this as long as there is a option to bring your own electric bike if you already own one. Of course cheaper entry fee if you're not renting a bike. This could seriously be the future of mx, very exciting.

luna966 wrote:

Yup, I back this as long as there is a option to bring your own electric bike if you already own one. Of course cheaper entry fee if you're not renting a bike. This could seriously be the future of mx, very exciting.

While I would probably be a customer once in awhile, this IS NOT the “Future of MX”, IMO

If it is, then I’m getting out of it... can you imagine going to SX to watch a race with all electric bikes ? Personally that sounds pretty lame, but I’m sure the tree huggers would love it !

BTW- This has already been done in Vegas. It was only open fur a short period of time and the bikes (ZERO) weren’t up to where they needed to be. The Alta is a whole different ballgame !

https://www.electricbike.com/lasvegas/

http://evworld.com/news.cfm?newsid=28098

https://www.riderplanet-usa.com/atv/trails/info/nevada_14606/ride_c4c7.htm

luna966 wrote:

Yup, I back this as long as there is a option to bring your own electric bike if you already own one. Of course cheaper entry fee if you're not renting a bike. This could seriously be the future of mx, very exciting.

langhammx wrote:

While I would probably be a customer once in awhile, this IS NOT the “Future of MX”, IMO

If it is, then I’m getting out of it... can you imagine going to SX to watch a race with all electric bikes ? Personally that sounds pretty lame, but I’m sure the tree huggers would love it !

BTW- This has already been done in Vegas. It was only open fur a short period of time and the bikes (ZERO) weren’t up to where they needed to be. The Alta is a whole different ballgame !

https://www.electricbike.com/lasvegas/

http://evworld.com/news.cfm?newsid=28098

https://www.riderplanet-usa.com/atv/trails/info/nevada_14606/ride_c4c7.htm

I know of a few unused warehouses near us with plenty of space..

But I completely agree. If SX goes all electric, no thanks.

luna966 wrote:

Yup, I back this as long as there is a option to bring your own electric bike if you already own one. Of course cheaper entry fee if you're not renting a bike. This could seriously be the future of mx, very exciting.

langhammx wrote:

While I would probably be a customer once in awhile, this IS NOT the “Future of MX”, IMO

If it is, then I’m getting out of it... can you imagine going to SX to watch a race with all electric bikes ? Personally that sounds pretty lame, but I’m sure the tree huggers would love it !

BTW- This has already been done in Vegas. It was only open fur a short period of time and the bikes (ZERO) weren’t up to where they needed to be. The Alta is a whole different ballgame !

https://www.electricbike.com/lasvegas/

http://evworld.com/news.cfm?newsid=28098

https://www.riderplanet-usa.com/atv/trails/info/nevada_14606/ride_c4c7.htm

mattyhamz2 wrote:

I know of a few unused warehouses near us with plenty of space..

But I completely agree. If SX goes all electric, no thanks.

I almost opened up an indoor go cart track before MB2 opened. I did a lot of research and put together a budget for the plan and the cost to get up and running was over 1.5M and monthly/ yearly costs/ insurance, etc was pretty crazy. MB2 is making money, but not what they thought they were going to make. They both have careers outside the go cart track, or they would’ve had to close the doors a long time ago. Mike Gosselaar’s cousin is one of the owners. He was also Drew’s mechanic when he was still racing amateurs with Tanner.

I’d love to see someone put it together, I’d be a customer. Especially if they ran AC on the summer. lol
Not like we get a lot of rain here in So Cal, but it would likely be crowded on rainy days. But I’d be riding in the hills the next day !

langhammx wrote:

While I would probably be a customer once in awhile, this IS NOT the “Future of MX”, IMO

If it is, then I’m getting out of it... can you imagine going to SX to watch a race with all electric bikes ? Personally that sounds pretty lame, but I’m sure the tree huggers would love it !

BTW- This has already been done in Vegas. It was only open fur a short period of time and the bikes (ZERO) weren’t up to where they needed to be. The Alta is a whole different ballgame !

https://www.electricbike.com/lasvegas/

http://evworld.com/news.cfm?newsid=28098

https://www.riderplanet-usa.com/atv/trails/info/nevada_14606/ride_c4c7.htm

mattyhamz2 wrote:

I know of a few unused warehouses near us with plenty of space..

But I completely agree. If SX goes all electric, no thanks.

langhammx wrote:

I almost opened up an indoor go cart track before MB2 opened. I did a lot of research and put together a budget for the plan and the cost to get up and running was over 1.5M and monthly/ yearly costs/ insurance, etc was pretty crazy. MB2 is making money, but not what they thought they were going to make. They both have careers outside the go cart track, or they would’ve had to close the doors a long time ago. Mike Gosselaar’s cousin is one of the owners. He was also Drew’s mechanic when he was still racing amateurs with Tanner.

I’d love to see someone put it together, I’d be a customer. Especially if they ran AC on the summer. lol
Not like we get a lot of rain here in So Cal, but it would likely be crowded on rainy days. But I’d be riding in the hills the next day !

I remember Mike telling us his cousin was an owner shortly after it opened. Haven't been there in a long time. Maybe it's time to head back?

I'd like to see it done also. Be nice to just show up on lunch or when I have some free time and spin some laps then head out and not have to worry about washing the bike or maintenance haha.

Xeno wrote:

Yes. But as you know, it doesn't need to be indoors in OC.
Any outdoor lot with good lights and dust control will do fine. There won't be any noise complaints!

PFitzG38 wrote:

Tustin Air Base Hangers - Viewing lounges with couches, Storage unit rentals, Food court, Shops, Swimming Pools, Dancing gIrls

sumdood wrote:

Photo's, lap time printouts, mx video games, mini night with Osets, goggles, boots, gear for sale, a full gym on site, the possibilities are endless. Who's got a couple million or so laying around to get it rolling ?

That's my vision, it's been talked about, but electric rentals could be what makes it happen. Alta et al would sure as hell be onboard!

mattyhamz2 wrote:

I know of a few unused warehouses near us with plenty of space..

But I completely agree. If SX goes all electric, no thanks.

That train of thought is silly. Just like the snowboarders vs skier skism that was around back in the day. Who cares how you get down the mountain as long as you get down? Wait a sec I just thought of quads.........................nevermind

Sounds like a blast but I would think the liability issues would be a concern. Carts are one thing, you stay on the ground for the most part. Jumping triples, hitting whoops...I see assholes n elbows and many a broken body to put a damper on things

I think it would be awesome. The market is limited, but it could be a thing if done in the right location.

The liability of people jumping would be kind of sketchy but only on a maintenance level, “the bars were loose and caused me to crash or tire went flat causing me to crash and get hurt, I’m suing”, but the mountain bike rental market has that handled. So where there is a will there is a way.

Maybe the track needs to be made out of the rubber that playgrounds are made out of now. Soft enough to fall on. Run a super moto style tire instead of knobbies and it should be good to go. No dust, less injuries, less track maintenance and the “wave of the future”.

I’d do it a few times.