How much hp do you think the PC and Geico 250f's make?

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Edited Date/Time 12/5/2012 4:28pm
I know in 2008 RV's was said to make 47 or 48.
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MXD 5/1/2012 9:23am
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I'm more interested in how much $ they have into the bike to get it from bone stock to A1.
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MR. X 5/1/2012 9:24am
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Bob454 wrote:
65-900
Thats what i was thinking too.

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I think a very good privateer/small team bike will be about 5-7 hp up on peak. Nothing over stock in the bottom and maybe 2-3hp over stock in the midrange

The PC/Geico bikes won't be so much more at top end in my opinion maybe 1-2hp. But the development they put in will produce a much stronger curve on the usable range. I would think they will be a good 3-5hp up in the mid range over stock, 1-2hp up on bottom and with very good suspension every ounce of that power is getting put down.

There has been a lot of privateers and smaller team bikes out dragging the PC/Geico to the first turn. But the combination of excellent power, suspension, grip and riders takes the big 2 to the top more often than not.
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lumpy790 5/1/2012 10:25am
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remember seeing that PC offered less in $$ than others but made up for it with what the team brought to the table. Seems I remember seeing $30k base + bonuses...... wonder what the bonus $$ was from Monster for taking a drink while on the podium?
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Graphite 5/1/2012 10:29am
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Did anyone see tomac easily clear the triple from the inside line in his heat race? Meanwhile, everyone else hitting the inside was double doubling that section.
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flyinb501 5/1/2012 10:34am
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lumpy790 wrote:
remember seeing that PC offered less in $$ than others but made up for it with what the team brought to the table. Seems I remember...
remember seeing that PC offered less in $$ than others but made up for it with what the team brought to the table. Seems I remember seeing $30k base + bonuses...... wonder what the bonus $$ was from Monster for taking a drink while on the podium?
Re read the thread title, and then read the replies. It helps.
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lumpy790 5/1/2012 10:37am
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remember seeing that PC offered less in $$ than others but made up for it with what the team brought to the table. Seems I remember...
remember seeing that PC offered less in $$ than others but made up for it with what the team brought to the table. Seems I remember seeing $30k base + bonuses...... wonder what the bonus $$ was from Monster for taking a drink while on the podium?
flyinb501 wrote:
Re read the thread title, and then read the replies. It helps.
LOL.....did miss that
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RCC104 5/1/2012 10:44am
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Graphite wrote:
Did anyone see tomac easily clear the triple from the inside line in his heat race? Meanwhile, everyone else hitting the inside was double doubling that...
Did anyone see tomac easily clear the triple from the inside line in his heat race? Meanwhile, everyone else hitting the inside was double doubling that section.
And people said the Factory Connection bikes wouldn't be as good once they decided to stop using PC....

That's 2 for 2 without PC so far.
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Graphite wrote:
Did anyone see tomac easily clear the triple from the inside line in his heat race? Meanwhile, everyone else hitting the inside was double doubling that...
Did anyone see tomac easily clear the triple from the inside line in his heat race? Meanwhile, everyone else hitting the inside was double doubling that section.
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And people said the Factory Connection bikes wouldn't be as good once they decided to stop using PC.... That's 2 for 2 without PC so far...
And people said the Factory Connection bikes wouldn't be as good once they decided to stop using PC....

That's 2 for 2 without PC so far.
I've been thinking the same thing since after watching SLC. I like the PC riders, but I am 'super pumped' to see another team give it to PC. They been on the top long enough. Geico changed quite a bit this year and sometimes small changes can really screw people. Regardless, I was glad to see Geico have a clean sweep in supercross this year.
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WhKnuckle 5/1/2012 11:07am
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I think the FC 250s make about 47; the PC 310s make around 60 or so.
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Spartacus 5/1/2012 11:23am
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Wait for it....



























































A shit load more than any 125 smoker that has to race against them.
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a lot more than the other guys....
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50% more than I will ever need.

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Bob454 5/1/2012 12:55pm
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Egra372 wrote:
50-52.
That seems a bit extreme. You really think they are making 18-20 more hp than stock 32-34hp motor??? That is like a 53% increase in overall power, I would believe the 42-45 range
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Egra372 5/1/2012 1:04pm
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Egra372 wrote:
50-52.
Bob454 wrote:
That seems a bit extreme. You really think they are making 18-20 more hp than stock 32-34hp motor??? That is like a 53% increase in overall...
That seems a bit extreme. You really think they are making 18-20 more hp than stock 32-34hp motor??? That is like a 53% increase in overall power, I would believe the 42-45 range
I don't know.. But I do think it's possible. I thougt they made 37-38 stock??
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chump6784 5/1/2012 1:46pm
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MXA has the 2012 kx250f at pretty much 40hp, the others not far behind
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Egra372 wrote:
50-52.
Bob454 wrote:
That seems a bit extreme. You really think they are making 18-20 more hp than stock 32-34hp motor??? That is like a 53% increase in overall...
That seems a bit extreme. You really think they are making 18-20 more hp than stock 32-34hp motor??? That is like a 53% increase in overall power, I would believe the 42-45 range
Egra372 wrote:
I don't know.. But I do think it's possible. I thougt they made 37-38 stock??
I think you guys are intermingling Crank HP & Rear Wheel HP.
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chump6784 5/1/2012 3:53pm
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MXA test on a dyno, I thought dyno's measured at the wheel. My guess would be 45-48 rwhp
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flomiester 5/1/2012 5:29pm
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chump6784 wrote:
MXA test on a dyno, I thought dyno's measured at the wheel. My guess would be 45-48 rwhp
On my dyno my 250s make 46 hp using renegade sx4+ gieco uses a fuel from renegade that makes a bit more power .a stock crf 250 on pump gas makes between 37.5& 38 hp on the mxa dyno the 250s i have done would be showing over 48 hp.We are really stretching the power on these 250s and i think its going to be very dificult to get past 46 hp from a 250 on the dyno im using.The honda engineers building the moto 3 engines for road racing have also expressed that its going to be dificult to see much over 45 hp and thats with full down draft heads and 14000 rpm limits and open exhaust.
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2T42 5/1/2012 5:43pm
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So we have spent the last 11 years advancing the sport to arrive at factory equipped high dollar machines with motors that cost as much as my house. In the end making the same power and weigh about the same as.......








any stock 1989 2 stroke 250?
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flomiester 5/1/2012 5:50pm
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2T42 wrote:
So we have spent the last 11 years [i]advancing [/i]the sport to arrive at factory equipped high dollar machines with motors that cost as much as...
So we have spent the last 11 years advancing the sport to arrive at factory equipped high dollar machines with motors that cost as much as my house. In the end making the same power and weigh about the same as.......








any stock 1989 2 stroke 250?
you got it around 46 hp but the 2 stroke has around 5 #s more torque maybe with fuel injection the oems will start producing them again although i feel the 4 stroke is eazyer to ride.
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Egra372 wrote:
50-52.
Bob454 wrote:
That seems a bit extreme. You really think they are making 18-20 more hp than stock 32-34hp motor??? That is like a 53% increase in overall...
That seems a bit extreme. You really think they are making 18-20 more hp than stock 32-34hp motor??? That is like a 53% increase in overall power, I would believe the 42-45 range
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