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Realistically, how long do you guys think it will be before we are all running on E bikes? Personally It can’t come soon enough for me, been in stuck on this tiny island (UK) were everyone complains about everything I genuinely think it will be the best thing to happen to the sport in a long time. It will unlock so many riding spots and help our struggling sport.
Alta do you have any plans to sell bikes in Europe? Our ever growing population/less space/more houses means riding spots are disappearing rapidly, I really do fear for Mx in the UK
Alta do you have any plans to sell bikes in Europe? Our ever growing population/less space/more houses means riding spots are disappearing rapidly, I really do fear for Mx in the UK
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The limiting factors are battery charging times and range, for a trail bike you would not want to be stuck miles in the woods with a dead battery. There is a reason the technology hasn't taken off yet. But I think it will, its only just getting started.
It will come, and be its own thing IMO.
Here's how every major automaker plans to go electric
GM said it plans to phase out gas-powered vehicles for an "all-electric future" but didn't give an exact date for an all-EV line. The effort starts, however, with plans for 20 all-electric vehicles by 2023.
Ford created the EV-dedicated "Team Edison" to focus on the development of all-electric cars. The automaker also pledged to invest $4.5 billion over five years on new all-electric and hybrid vehicles, with 13 new models slated for release by 2023.
Toyota and Mazda recently announced that they're teaming up with auto-parts manufacturer Senso to create a new company to develop basic EV technology for use across multiple vehicle types and models, expanding beyond Toyota's Prius line. The two Japanese carmakers also pledged to build a $1.6 billion U.S.-based plant by 2021, where they'll work on electric and hybrid vehicles.
Daimler, the parent company of Mercedes-Benz, will invest $1 billion in an Alabama plant to produce all-electric SUVs and build a battery facility, and $10 billion in EV development overall. Mercedes-Benz outlined a plan to electrify its "entire portfolio" by 2022, offering 50 electric and hybrid models.
The Renault, Nissan, and Mitsubishi alliance will work together to develop new systems to use across their vehicle lines, with a focus on "purely electric" EVs like the Nissan Leaf. The automakers plan to release 12 all-electric models by 2022.
Jaguar Land Rover (JLR) plans to electrify its entire vehicle lineup by 2020, with new powertrains ranging from mild hybrid vehicles to all-electric systems.
Volvo will electrify its entire vehicle line by 2019, with five all-electric models slated to roll out from 2019 to 2021. The automaker hopes to sell one million of the electric and hybrid cars by 2025.
VW Group, parent of European automakers like Volkswagen, Audi, and Porsche, will invest $84 billion in EV development. Roughly $60 billion of the total will be dedicated to battery production, but the company also plans to offer electric and hybrid versions of 300 vehicles by 2030.
In 1997 Yamaha put in the resources to make a very competitive 4-stroke. Then they got someone to race it and prove its abilities. Alta has the right idea but they are a startup. KTM will likely be the first established manufacturer to hit the market with a competitive e-bike, and it will only be a matter of time until other companies follow suit or get left behind. The competition among the producers and higher supply will drive down the price.
IMO smaller companies like TM or struggling companies like Suzuki (in the dirt bike market anyway) would be wise to put more resources towards developing e-technology to get a jump on the market rather than staying within current trends.
Randy S has a point. In 10 years there will be lots of sales of electrics but it wont be for at least 20 years that they are dominant in what people are actually riding. Same goes for cars.
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They already out perform gas, just not extended periods of time.
And yes I could see the resurgence of 2-strokes coming. Kinda gave it a nudge too when I did the Vital ReVival project. Never really stopped riding 2-strokes either, but they are old tech. The idea that there might be some premix nationals is cool, but backwards in my opinion.
The AMA should be incentivizing E-bike participation to help development. Start with their series with any manufacturer who wants to participate, whether it's available to the public or just a prototype. Then move to something like Formula E and MotoGP (which will have an E class in 2019). If Alta had the resources, they could create their own spec class for the nationals or Supercross as a means of development and showing the public what their equipment can really do.
I do not see basic bike design changing much in the next 10-15 years, so I would guess there will be a push of converting older bikes with electric motors, which would obviously cut costs for consumers. Eventually batteries will be small, light, and powerful enough to fit within current model frames. Any company that figures out proper retrofitting of complete e-motors and batteries will do pretty well.
I don't really know for sure, but I'd be willing to bet that the manufacturers already have rolling prototypes or proof-of-concept bikes intended for release in the early 2020s.
To me it looks like everyone is eyeing Alta to see how much of the market they can take or create and then when it looks feasible, you'll see someone jump in. The rest will follow suit quickly.
The electric vehicle is coming very fast, people. Look for it to supplement or replace gasoline scooters first, then maybe side by side ATVs and then finally high-performance models like MX bikes and Supersport.
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