How can I empower an rmz 250 2020 in it's affordable way?

Dirtydeeds wrote:

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maefernandez wrote:

Hi guys, i'm looking for some help with this bike, every review says that the new rmz sucks and it's very behind from the rest in...

Hi guys, i'm looking for some help with this bike, every review says that the new rmz sucks and it's very behind from the rest in terms of speed (also suspension)

Still it is very affordable, and finally it seems that I have the chance with one of these, but I don't want to fall behind the field so much in terms of speed, I have a fair good enough level for 250's so i'm affraid that it's speed difference is to big, so I came here for some recomendations on how can I give this bike some extra power to be in a near pace next to other japanese, I was thinking a good maping and an exhaust may be, but I can't think of any other thing to help with it. Or if mapping/exhaust can make the difference.

Please any advice from anyone who knows this bike and can cuide on how to empower ir? Any help is very usefull.

Ghostrider145 wrote:

Set up suspension.
1)Vortex Ignition 2) Race Fuel
3)porting
4) Exhaust 5) cams

Suzuki’s are pretty darn reliable.
Ghost

biondo wrote:

Hi I’m just starting MX bought the 2020 rmz 250 about 25hours zero problems! The only thing I did per advice from Michael Keating who races...

Hi I’m just starting MX bought the 2020 rmz 250 about 25hours zero problems! The only thing I did per advice from Michael Keating who races Vet expert! Who posts here under the 250rmz was change springs to
4.2 at my weight of 145 and looking to add a Yoshimura pipe but I’m not using all the power !! Had a friend who races a 450rmz help set up sag etc He is a ex pro who races and wins vet experts consistently! ...Great Bikes if you’re on a budget! My thoughts learn on this move up to a Husky 🤠

AH387 wrote:

But at what point do you just buy the Yamaha instead? Again, not trying to say that nobody should buy a Suzuki, but unless you just...

But at what point do you just buy the Yamaha instead? Again, not trying to say that nobody should buy a Suzuki, but unless you just really like them, I just can't understand why someone would buy that bike up front (you aren't saving THAT much $) and then do all that. Most people can buy a YZ250F and set the sag, never need to do 1 thing to the suspension and honestly be happy with the motor too. With the RMZ you chance having to put more money into both areas (Suspension and motor) to get it to where you could already be at on another brand. And you didn't save any money in the process and also still have a bike with worse resale. These would just be things going through my head before I purchase an expensive, brand new bike...especially if like the OP is saying, money is somewhat of an object.

Ghostrider145 wrote:

Set up suspension.
1)Vortex Ignition 2) Race Fuel
3)porting
4) Exhaust 5) cams

Suzuki’s are pretty darn reliable.
Ghost

AH387 wrote:

But at what point do you just buy the Yamaha instead? Again, not trying to say that nobody should buy a Suzuki, but unless you just...

But at what point do you just buy the Yamaha instead? Again, not trying to say that nobody should buy a Suzuki, but unless you just really like them, I just can't understand why someone would buy that bike up front (you aren't saving THAT much $) and then do all that. Most people can buy a YZ250F and set the sag, never need to do 1 thing to the suspension and honestly be happy with the motor too. With the RMZ you chance having to put more money into both areas (Suspension and motor) to get it to where you could already be at on another brand. And you didn't save any money in the process and also still have a bike with worse resale. These would just be things going through my head before I purchase an expensive, brand new bike...especially if like the OP is saying, money is somewhat of an object.

Ghostrider145 wrote:

Simply giving options. You can always do things as you go. Like stated unless your a serious racer you can ride the wheels off a stocker...

Simply giving options. You can always do things as you go. Like stated unless your a serious racer you can ride the wheels off a stocker.
It’s not like the bike will hold him back from winning some plastic trophies. I’m a fan of the brand in general.
YZ250F is a good starting point no doubt.
Ghost

Dirtydeeds wrote:

Send the motor to Varner.

2WheelsForTheMasses wrote:

The 2020 rmz250f is a very good bike and performs far better than most peoples opinions state. My son has the new zook and he feels...

The 2020 rmz250f is a very good bike and performs far better than most peoples opinions state.

My son has the new zook and he feels it is much better than the 2018 ktm250 he came off of. I'll say this, his lap times at fox raceway was about 2 seconds a lap faster on the zook in stock form minus (suspension, and basic tune from our laptop) than on his previous ktm that has what people say "more power and speed"

Take what people say with a grain of salt

Gearing and your laptop mixed with properly setup suspension will maximize your speed!!!

KONG wrote:

#fantasyworld

KONG wrote:

#fantasyworld

R VanKamp77 wrote:

Outed yourself. You probably get annihilated by guys with kickstarters every weekend.

KONG wrote:

#fantasyworld

R VanKamp77 wrote:

Outed yourself. You probably get annihilated by guys with kickstarters every weekend.

Jonesboys819_828 wrote:

For 2019+ RMZ250 w/dual injectors More air in airbox ECU (I prefer the GET), I can tune it. Slip-on Pipe - Yosh preferred, change packing after...

For 2019+ RMZ250 w/dual injectors
More air in airbox
ECU (I prefer the GET), I can tune it.
Slip-on Pipe - Yosh preferred, change packing after 30hrs
T4 Fuel
Do The Jody
Shift often and early
Enjoy

Mit12 wrote:

Years ago I told Gary Jones that my 125 Suzuki was not fast enough. His reply,” how many throttle cables have you pulled the end off?”...

Years ago I told Gary Jones that my 125 Suzuki was not fast enough. His reply,” how many throttle cables have you pulled the end off?”
The 250 Suzuki is fast enough in its stock form until you are at the national level.

KONG wrote:

#fantasyworld

R VanKamp77 wrote:

Outed yourself. You probably get annihilated by guys with kickstarters every weekend.

fourfourone wrote:

Its hard to get beat by an RMZ when you literally see none at the local races. All these mods people are listing still leave the...

Its hard to get beat by an RMZ when you literally see none at the local races. All these mods people are listing still leave the bike slower than the other brands.

JJO741 wrote:

I am glad this thread got revived. Instead of making a new thread I figure this would be a good place to ask. I can find...

I am glad this thread got revived. Instead of making a new thread I figure this would be a good place to ask.

I can find RMZ250’s for about 5,500 at my local dealer or not too far away in California. As far as bang for your buck as a consumer, would a RMZ with investment in mods, or a stock Yamaha/KTM/Kawasaki/Etc. be a batter investment?

R VanKamp77 wrote:

Outed yourself. You probably get annihilated by guys with kickstarters every weekend.

fourfourone wrote:

Its hard to get beat by an RMZ when you literally see none at the local races. All these mods people are listing still leave the...

Its hard to get beat by an RMZ when you literally see none at the local races. All these mods people are listing still leave the bike slower than the other brands.

R VanKamp77 wrote:

Thats not really true. The RM-Z is within 5-10% of every japanese brand at MOST (not all) points on a dyno in stock form. Intake, ECU...

Thats not really true. The RM-Z is within 5-10% of every japanese brand at MOST (not all) points on a dyno in stock form. Intake, ECU, exhaust will level the field nearly. Especially with Honda, which the suzuki gets the better of in some spots, and is close otherwise. Why do you just make that stuff up? I'm so confused by the suzuki hate fetish

fourfourone wrote:

Its hard to get beat by an RMZ when you literally see none at the local races. All these mods people are listing still leave the...

Its hard to get beat by an RMZ when you literally see none at the local races. All these mods people are listing still leave the bike slower than the other brands.

R VanKamp77 wrote:

Thats not really true. The RM-Z is within 5-10% of every japanese brand at MOST (not all) points on a dyno in stock form. Intake, ECU...

Thats not really true. The RM-Z is within 5-10% of every japanese brand at MOST (not all) points on a dyno in stock form. Intake, ECU, exhaust will level the field nearly. Especially with Honda, which the suzuki gets the better of in some spots, and is close otherwise. Why do you just make that stuff up? I'm so confused by the suzuki hate fetish

fourfourone wrote:

I didn't make anything up lol. Do you go to any of your local races? There is a huge lack of yellow presence there and there...

I didn't make anything up lol. Do you go to any of your local races? There is a huge lack of yellow presence there and there is a reason for it. Its a no brainer to spend the extra $500-800 and go with blue, red or green.

The last 5 years of shootouts every test rider has stated the bike is slower than the rest.

Your dyno graph proves my point. Its slower than the rest. It make the same power as the honda in 2 random areas of the power band but gets beat by 1-2hp everywhere else. Plus the honda is 10 pounds lighter and has e-start. Add the same mods to the honda that you would do to the RMZ and you have an even faster bike than the RMZ.

I still think the RMZ is a great looking bike and is a good bargain if you can find one on sale but if your paying retail you might as well go with another brand.