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If anyone thinks the guys on factory bikes are at an advantage now, just wait until the day they go electric!
That, and I don’t think a stadium full of people want to hear nothing but a bunch of chains rattling and squeaking. It’s not very appealing.
I really like them and they will have their place, just not in a live televised Supercross event.
The Shop
Boring riders.....boring racing.....boring series.....
Sad thing is, i still watch.
On a local level , even there does come a time when they arent sold new
You're right that many have switched from nitro to electric for various reasons (the same that would apply to E-moto), but the interesting thing is that this seems to be very 'region' and 'skill level' specific.
Let me explain: In most areas where noise isn't a huge problem and/or people are really combustion engine fanatics (for example SoCal) nitro is still very much the dominant class. Secondly, while all the top drivers run E-buggies, most of the veteran and skilled drivers still run nitro most of the time. Big races are still also nitro focused with E-buggies as a side program.
Another example: There still isn't a 1/8 E-buggy world championship while the 1/8 nitro WC (that just ran in Australia) is the biggest race in the world.
RC cars are the perfect proving grounds for electric competition vehicles because of the limited battery needs and while they have taken over a portion of the market, they haven't knocked nitro off its throne and it doesn't look like it will ever happen unless they ban nitro outright.
Long story short on how this compares to moto in my eyes: Expect a percentage of the market to shift to electric in the coming 10-15 years, but don't expect hardcore racers and international championships to EVER convert to electric unless they are forced to.
1. 1/8th scale World's is a very prestigious championship, however most top US racers spend more weekends a year running electric than running nitro.
2. The shift is regional with the northern states adopting electric on a wide scale because of the ease of running indoors with them. The progress of electric cars helped to change the way the sport evolved in these areas. Still, do the socal indoor tracks see more people/week than the outdoor tracks? I would imagine so.
3. Brushless motors and lipo batteries revitalized the rc industry. It would probably be a fraction of what it is today if everything was nimh and nitro. I would love to see figures from amain on how many engines they sell vs motor/esc combos.
4. Even the most hardcore rc fanatic is unlikely to only own fuel vehicles. For most people I'd imagine electrics are used for practice and fun, while fuel cars are brought out less often for special occasions.
5. Running a gas dirt bike isn't that much more work (maybe less) than running an electric bike so some of the points I made don't translate directly. Also rc cars are so cheap compared to a new bike (gas or electric) the barrier for entry or to have multiple vehicles is not quite the same.
https://youtu.be/Wk35Ls913o0
Anyone here using buying or talking about gas RC cars in a few years , its all electric, they even converted 1/8th scale gas RC cars into electric
Everything is brushless electric now
To react to the points you're making:
1) Strongly disagree, unless you are talking about 10th scale. I follow the RC scene daily and top 1/8 nitro racers spend a fraction of their time running 1/8 E-buggies compared to nitro.
2) I don't live in the US but I can follow your logic. In overcrowded Central Europe, RC would be dead if it wasn't for electric.
3) I agree, but I addressed this in my first post. Quantity of electric stuff purchased will be much higher due to easier accessibility, but if you asked Amain how many top dollar electric esc/motor racing combos vs engine/pipe combos they sold I think the difference would be much smaller.
4) Hmm, I don't know if I would agree. I don't own a nitro car because there is no place to run one close to my home, otherwise I would be all over it and probably would only run electric sporadically. I have seen many many die hard nitro racers online that don't own any electric vehicles.
5) True, the decision to purchase one or the other isn't as important due to lower cost, as is the resale value.
I know I got into RC because it was easy to do and fun with lipos. With 2 cars and 2 batteries for each car you can run all day with hardly any breaks. I can also put my cars away for months and pull the out and I never worry about how hard it will be to get them running again.
Then there is a bunch more non-sense posted about rc above that means nothing when comparing rc switching from fuel to electric, and moto doing the same. Just some dudes who have no idea arguing over stuff they have even less an idea about. In rc, nitro engines straight up suck, meaning they are a lot of work, and while they have tons of power, they run very inconsistently, pissing more people off than turning them on. In rc, it was easy for people to RUN away from nitro, as electric is so much easier to use on the daily. In moto, the engines are already awesome, people won't be running to electric for performance and maintenance issues.
To boil it down, my personal prediction is at least 10 years (2028?? Wow, can't wait to see one of you freaks quote this post when wrong, LOL) for 51% of guys on the gate to be running 3 phase/Lithium.
The way they are predicting things to happen , to me its
Interesting to see different points of view and interesting how two people can see the same thing or get the same info and come to a totally different conclusion.
To me thats part of the fun of a forum
Pit Row
We were talking about competition RC cars, as an analogy to motocross, not bashers like freaking Stampede's.
You pretend to know more than me but call the biggest race in the sport the "Ifmar Perth race", well ok then.
Another 5 minutes of my life I'll never get back.
Lots of people are put off dirt bikes because of the inconvenience of it, alot of these people are driven to mountain bikes and some are driven to RC car racing instead. What if electric Moto had the capability to combine the fun of Moto with the convenience of mountain biking or RC car racing?
https://youtu.be/vOa1S4pGw6I?start=120
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