Honda spring forks vrs air

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with all the talk on air vrs spring forks I am thinking of swapping out my Honda air forks for some springs. Have any of you done this? What did you think?

Anyone have a set of spring forks they took off? CRF250 showas?
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GuyB 10/20/2014 12:14pm
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All this talk...

How much have you experimented with tuning the air forks?
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kiwifan 10/20/2014 1:47pm
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Before you swap them out try and '15 Honda, much better forks than on the '14.

It wont be long before all manufacturers are using the air forks on their production bikes, factory riders can ride what they like of course
deltamotocross 10/20/2014 2:28pm
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My 14 honda air forks are good, especially after fc recalced them. Although they do ride a bit low In the stroke. But they work well pretty much everywhere.
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gpracer36 wrote:
with all the talk on air vrs spring forks I am thinking of swapping out my Honda air forks for some springs. Have any of you...
with all the talk on air vrs spring forks I am thinking of swapping out my Honda air forks for some springs. Have any of you done this? What did you think?

Anyone have a set of spring forks they took off? CRF250 showas?
Have you had your PSF 1 forks tuned by an aftermarket shop?

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gpracer36 10/20/2014 3:03pm
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gpracer36 wrote:
with all the talk on air vrs spring forks I am thinking of swapping out my Honda air forks for some springs. Have any of you...
with all the talk on air vrs spring forks I am thinking of swapping out my Honda air forks for some springs. Have any of you done this? What did you think?

Anyone have a set of spring forks they took off? CRF250 showas?
ML512 wrote:
Have you had your PSF 1 forks tuned by an aftermarket shop?
I did, had a 13 and sold it after three different shops did their best. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying others should feel the same way, this was just my feeling, the bike just doesn't feel planted the way a spring fork does. I do ride more off road/gp stuff, so maybe that has something to do with it.

I am definitely going to go with a spring fork if I can find a set...
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Justin345 10/20/2014 3:10pm
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I only ride MX but my '13 kx450 suspension is amazing. Pro circuit did their magic on them. Just picked up a 2015 kx450 this weekend and the suspension will be in the mail heading to pro circuit tomorrow afternoon.
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ML512 10/20/2014 3:27pm
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gpracer36 wrote:
with all the talk on air vrs spring forks I am thinking of swapping out my Honda air forks for some springs. Have any of you...
with all the talk on air vrs spring forks I am thinking of swapping out my Honda air forks for some springs. Have any of you done this? What did you think?

Anyone have a set of spring forks they took off? CRF250 showas?
ML512 wrote:
Have you had your PSF 1 forks tuned by an aftermarket shop?
gpracer36 wrote:
I did, had a 13 and sold it after three different shops did their best. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying others should feel the...
I did, had a 13 and sold it after three different shops did their best. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying others should feel the same way, this was just my feeling, the bike just doesn't feel planted the way a spring fork does. I do ride more off road/gp stuff, so maybe that has something to do with it.

I am definitely going to go with a spring fork if I can find a set...
May I ask who did them? Rider weight?

If you're dead-set on getting spring forks, try to find a set of KYB spring forks from a 2009-2012, they'll bolt right up. I believe the total extended length is the same, if not, it's within a few mms. I'll see if I can find the exact number.
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gpracer36 10/20/2014 3:34pm
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ML512 wrote:
Have you had your PSF 1 forks tuned by an aftermarket shop?
gpracer36 wrote:
I did, had a 13 and sold it after three different shops did their best. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying others should feel the...
I did, had a 13 and sold it after three different shops did their best. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying others should feel the same way, this was just my feeling, the bike just doesn't feel planted the way a spring fork does. I do ride more off road/gp stuff, so maybe that has something to do with it.

I am definitely going to go with a spring fork if I can find a set...
ML512 wrote:
May I ask who did them? Rider weight? If you're dead-set on getting spring forks, try to find a set of KYB spring forks from a...
May I ask who did them? Rider weight?

If you're dead-set on getting spring forks, try to find a set of KYB spring forks from a 2009-2012, they'll bolt right up. I believe the total extended length is the same, if not, it's within a few mms. I'll see if I can find the exact number.
thanks, I am looking for CRF250, 2012 showas. As far as tuners, I tried Enzo, FC and a local shop. It was frustrating because I was coming of a 2012 that Enzo set up that was amazing. Wish I had those forks now.
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Justin345 wrote:
I only ride MX but my '13 kx450 suspension is amazing. Pro circuit did their magic on them. Just picked up a 2015 kx450 this weekend...
I only ride MX but my '13 kx450 suspension is amazing. Pro circuit did their magic on them. Just picked up a 2015 kx450 this weekend and the suspension will be in the mail heading to pro circuit tomorrow afternoon.
I am very interested to hear how the 2015 works for you!
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ML512 10/20/2014 3:53pm
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kiwifan wrote:
Before you swap them out try and '15 Honda, much better forks than on the '14. It wont be long before all manufacturers are using the...
Before you swap them out try and '15 Honda, much better forks than on the '14.

It wont be long before all manufacturers are using the air forks on their production bikes, factory riders can ride what they like of course
In my opinion, that's because the stock setting is better on the 15s' PSF 2. The PSF 1 forks on the 13-14 are a better design and are more capable overall. By example; Trey Canard, Eli Tomac, JGR and Star Yamaha are racing with PSF 1.
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Justin345 10/20/2014 5:02pm
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Justin345 wrote:
I only ride MX but my '13 kx450 suspension is amazing. Pro circuit did their magic on them. Just picked up a 2015 kx450 this weekend...
I only ride MX but my '13 kx450 suspension is amazing. Pro circuit did their magic on them. Just picked up a 2015 kx450 this weekend and the suspension will be in the mail heading to pro circuit tomorrow afternoon.
bvm111 wrote:
I am very interested to hear how the 2015 works for you!
Once I get the suspension back and put some time on it, I'll post up a review! Can't wait to get this thing back together and on the track
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kiwifan 10/20/2014 5:24pm
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kiwifan wrote:
Before you swap them out try and '15 Honda, much better forks than on the '14. It wont be long before all manufacturers are using the...
Before you swap them out try and '15 Honda, much better forks than on the '14.

It wont be long before all manufacturers are using the air forks on their production bikes, factory riders can ride what they like of course
ML512 wrote:
In my opinion, that's because the stock setting is better on the 15s' PSF 2. The PSF 1 forks on the 13-14 are a better design...
In my opinion, that's because the stock setting is better on the 15s' PSF 2. The PSF 1 forks on the 13-14 are a better design and are more capable overall. By example; Trey Canard, Eli Tomac, JGR and Star Yamaha are racing with PSF 1.
oh really? Thats interesting....
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kiwifan 10/20/2014 5:24pm
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Justin345 wrote:
I only ride MX but my '13 kx450 suspension is amazing. Pro circuit did their magic on them. Just picked up a 2015 kx450 this weekend...
I only ride MX but my '13 kx450 suspension is amazing. Pro circuit did their magic on them. Just picked up a 2015 kx450 this weekend and the suspension will be in the mail heading to pro circuit tomorrow afternoon.
bvm111 wrote:
I am very interested to hear how the 2015 works for you!
Justin345 wrote:
Once I get the suspension back and put some time on it, I'll post up a review! Can't wait to get this thing back together and...
Once I get the suspension back and put some time on it, I'll post up a review! Can't wait to get this thing back together and on the track
Well you cant beat aftermarket tuned Forks... I will probably send mine to FC
dirtaddict 10/20/2014 10:07pm
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gpracer36 wrote:
with all the talk on air vrs spring forks I am thinking of swapping out my Honda air forks for some springs. Have any of you...
with all the talk on air vrs spring forks I am thinking of swapping out my Honda air forks for some springs. Have any of you done this? What did you think?

Anyone have a set of spring forks they took off? CRF250 showas?
ML512 wrote:
Have you had your PSF 1 forks tuned by an aftermarket shop?
exactly , psf are great forks with a good tune ,
Onepostwonder 10/20/2014 10:26pm
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GuyB wrote:
All this talk...

How much have you experimented with tuning the air forks?
How much have you?
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ML512 wrote:
In my opinion, that's because the stock setting is better on the 15s' PSF 2. The PSF 1 forks on the 13-14 are a better design...
In my opinion, that's because the stock setting is better on the 15s' PSF 2. The PSF 1 forks on the 13-14 are a better design and are more capable overall. By example; Trey Canard, Eli Tomac, JGR and Star Yamaha are racing with PSF 1.
Interesting. What is main difference on desing wich make s PSF 1 more capable? I was thinking Trey and Eli running old good spring forks at Monster Cup..

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