Honda finally gets its way

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2/3/2012 9:14pm Edited Date/Time 2/4/2012 1:49pm
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2/3/2012 9:21pm
WTF is a moar?
easton
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2/3/2012 9:22pm
KTM has got a 150 that 's coming out next year that's really going to turn some heads.
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2/3/2012 9:25pm
what in THEEEEEEE hell is MOAR?
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2/3/2012 9:27pm Edited Date/Time 2/3/2012 9:33pm
"The newly added Mini Sr. classes reflect the ongoing evolution of machines and we feel that the new class structure will maintain fair and balanced racing across the board," said Cotter. Cotter to all mfgs thinking about making 150's. We won't make you compete with those pesky 2 strokes. Go ahead and make another class all bout how much money you can spend on an engine.
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2/3/2012 9:35pm
bvm111 wrote:
what in THEEEEEEE hell is MOAR?
I dunno, I guess what this guy is saying.............


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2/3/2012 9:36pm
dirtnapper wrote:
MOAR of Jennifer Kenyon!! Woohoo
She is a way cool chick and core moto

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2/3/2012 10:00pm Edited Date/Time 2/3/2012 10:16pm
dcg141 wrote:
CR250Rider wrote:
honda makes cheating legal....again
More to the point the Sr 85 classes were changed to help Honda move a bike that has not sold very well. So badly if fact they did not make them for what..3 years. The 85's were included to show some semblance of fairness. Just go ahead and say it..Honda put pressure on use so we made a couple of classes specifically for them.
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2/3/2012 10:40pm
im just going to say... i would LOVE to see MOAR of this jennifer canyon you speak of
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2/3/2012 11:07pm
The 16+ 2 stroke class is more interesting than that. Will anyone really race the 150 ? It's more of a trail bike isn't it?
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2/3/2012 11:27pm
ATKpilot99 wrote:
The 16+ 2 stroke class is more interesting than that. Will anyone really race the 150 ? It's more of a trail bike isn't it?
Naw man the 150R is a full on race bike

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2/3/2012 11:38pm
ATKpilot99 wrote:
The 16+ 2 stroke class is more interesting than that. Will anyone really race the 150 ? It's more of a trail bike isn't it?
ocscottie wrote:
Naw man the 150R is a full on race bike [img]https://www.fullnoise.com.au/images/news_images/2005/january//08092006_CRF150_M1.jpg[/img]
Naw man the 150R is a full on race bike

Yeah I know it's supposed to be, I'm just being a smartass, Tongue been drinking tonight, maybe I should get to bed.
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2/3/2012 11:53pm
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Yeah I know it's supposed to be, I'm just being a smartass, Tongue been drinking tonight, maybe I should get to bed.
LAMO!! I did something i dont do often, cracked an Ice cold one! I bought a 6pk of beer 3 weeks ago, and there is still 2 left in the fridge, so that gives you an idea of how much i drink lol Such a lightweight! i got a nice little buzz on just 1 16oz Coors Light (the only beer i can even stand) Just wanted to make sure i get a good nights sleep tonight, and 1 beer really helps w/ my insomnia.
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2/4/2012 1:27am Edited Date/Time 2/4/2012 1:31am
"The newly added Mini Sr. classes reflect the ongoing atrophy of machines and we feel that the new class structure will maintain fair and balanced 150cc vs 80cc racing across the board???," said Cotter. "When an entire machine type, such as the 150cc four stroke mini, has laid around and been completely unsuccessful since it's introduction then it CLEARLY has demonstrated itself to be something that the racing public wants..." "And we wouldn't want to fail to force it on them...." Mr. Cotter then paged through his notes quickly, looking confused... Then he apparently farted.

Bart Buttfart of American Fonda agreed saying, "These little turdballs have been piling up at our already strained dealerships for YEARS now because no one is interested in them.... This new corruption of the race classes has been expensive for us to push through... but it might finally be what we need to sell some of these sticky crap wads." "I mean, if you visit your local Fonda showruin, we still have mounds of the ones with the black plastics and western wear type graphics that didn't sell..."

Going on, Fonda's Buttfart added: "We at Fonda have been literally dumping money into all kinds of marketing, and lining pockets for a long time in order to present these inferior machines to the market in the best possible light."
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2/4/2012 2:02am
If 150's become the norm in the 80s class, grass roots moto really is fucked. Rich brats will be the only kids in the game.
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2/4/2012 2:23am
10 kilograms is a lot of extra bike for kids to throw around. Bigger kids might do better on it but the smaller kids may struggle a bit with it. Will be interesting to see what the other MFG's do now
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2/4/2012 2:30am
I don't really care for the two stroke four stroke argument, but I am really not a fan of this new rule.
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2/4/2012 3:02am Edited Date/Time 2/4/2012 3:03am
Just so you all know our experience with the 150.

It has been legal to run in the 85 class for the past 5 or 6 years with most of the race orgs here in New England.
We have seen some fast 85 guys get on the 150 and be roughly the same speed.
I have never witnessed a mediocre rider suddenly doing better because of the 150, some improvements here and there but not much.

More inexperienced riders do get a little boost because the bike has that "roll on power" characteristic out of turns but again it is nothing huge.

On a national level Cooper Webb raced it against 85's in the Supermini and it didn't make him invincible.

Non-issue.
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jndmx wrote:
Just so you all know our experience with the 150. It has been legal to run in the 85 class for the past 5 or 6...
Just so you all know our experience with the 150.

It has been legal to run in the 85 class for the past 5 or 6 years with most of the race orgs here in New England.
We have seen some fast 85 guys get on the 150 and be roughly the same speed.
I have never witnessed a mediocre rider suddenly doing better because of the 150, some improvements here and there but not much.

More inexperienced riders do get a little boost because the bike has that "roll on power" characteristic out of turns but again it is nothing huge.

On a national level Cooper Webb raced it against 85's in the Supermini and it didn't make him invincible.

Non-issue.
I think you could race it in D13 here in VA last year with the 85's. I only remember seeing a few of them though.
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2/4/2012 4:32am
I agree it is a non-issue for now, those 150's just aren't very good for racing. But this opens the door for the other manufacturers to possibly enter the market spurring product development. Someone mentioned KTM, and I would be willing to bet if they took a crack at at 150f it would be a beast and cost a fortune.
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2/4/2012 4:53am Edited Date/Time 2/4/2012 4:55am
Ironic, didn't Honda jjust re-introduxe the CRF 150 for 2012? Hmmm?

This just confirms one thing, DC and his henchmen are bought and paiid for by Honda!
Way to operate Coombs. You're Dad would be proud!

btw...all the schleps at MX Sports ought to go to work in Washington. They'd fit in just fine.
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No suprises...
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RACERX69 wrote:
Ironic, didn't Honda jjust re-introduxe the CRF 150 for 2012? Hmmm? This just confirms one thing, DC and his henchmen are bought and paiid for by...
Ironic, didn't Honda jjust re-introduxe the CRF 150 for 2012? Hmmm?

This just confirms one thing, DC and his henchmen are bought and paiid for by Honda!
Way to operate Coombs. You're Dad would be proud!

btw...all the schleps at MX Sports ought to go to work in Washington. They'd fit in just fine.
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