Honda CRF trail bikes get (more expensive).

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11/6/2018 10:56 AM


Who the hell needs EFI on a mini trail bike?
I got so pissed when I saw this I did not look up the price difference. Next will be dual exhaust on a 50.

I won't be buying Honda out of resent for the impact of stupid EFI trail bikes on ridership.
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11/6/2018 11:00 AM

Price TBA because it more than before.

Who here thinks EFI is more influential to entering the sport than price?

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11/6/2018 11:03 AM
Edited Date/Time: 11/6/2018 11:08 AM

Did you feel the same way when cars went EFI?

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11/6/2018 11:07 AM

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11/6/2018 11:12 AM

Isn't just about every bike slowly creeping up in price every year? Labour, shipping and manufacturing costs certainly do.

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Current rides: 2020 CRF450RWE and 2019 TC300
Occasional ride for VMX: 1985 CR500RF
Adventure/Road bike: CRF1000L

11/6/2018 11:16 AM

jankymike wrote:

Did you feel the same way when cars went EFI?

Yes

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11/6/2018 11:17 AM

With inflation dont all things go up in price over time?

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11/6/2018 11:22 AM
Edited Date/Time: 11/6/2018 11:25 AM

The 2019 CRF125F will probably be around $3,599 to $3,699...in order to be competitive with the KLX140G...which is priced at $3,699.

Edit: Whoa...I've got that all wrong...the 125F is only 16/19? It shouldn't be more than $3,499.

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I ripped a start from Egypt and I was happy about that.

11/6/2018 11:22 AM

Bike prices are going to go up regardless, might as well include something as beneficial as EFI on them. At least that's my opinion on it.

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11/6/2018 11:23 AM
Edited Date/Time: 11/6/2018 11:24 AM

pretty interesting having EFI on a trail bike. The 2019 110 is quite different.

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11/6/2018 11:26 AM

I can’t wait to have a 110 EFI. No more jetting or anything. Can ride it at any elevation with no adjusting. Gonna love it for sure

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11/6/2018 11:32 AM

craigathan404 wrote:

I can’t wait to have a 110 EFI. No more jetting or anything. Can ride it at any elevation with no adjusting. Gonna love it for sure

My thoughts exactly. I will not miss carburetors one bit.

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I'm the dude, man.

11/6/2018 11:36 AM

Necessary? Absolutely not for that kind of bike. But it's a great idea to do it. Just eliminated carb cleans for the guy who's kids/wife that ride a couple times a year. Just eliminated a bunch of work for shops and guys like me that do it to help friends out when their bikes have been sitting. Maybe we will get some fuel filters and fuel pumps, but I see a lot of guys doing it themselves now.

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11/6/2018 11:42 AM

WOW! step off the ledge and calm down

2018 CRF 230F = $4299 MSRP
updated FI equipped CRF 250F = $4599 MSRP

A $300 increase for updated styling and fuel injection. Honda should actually be applauded!!

$300 is about the price for a carb clean when your 230F has been sitting unridden for a few months and all of a sudden it's riding season and your bike won't start or runs like crap...which is VERY common for those bikes and the people that buy and use them.

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11/6/2018 11:45 AM

People without the ability or inclination to mess with a carb will like the EFI, I would think. I'm curious as to what constitutes "need". These bikes aren't in a high state of tune, nor does anyone expect them to be. So EFI isn't needed for the performance benefits. But that doesn't mean there are no benefits, or that those benefits aren't appealing to many trail riders.

If someone doesn't want to pay for a more expensive bike with EFI, go buy a DRZ or a used bike. Problem solved.

Is this really a reason for intense anger?

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Current rides: 2016 KTM 250SXF, 2017 KTM 350SXF

11/6/2018 11:46 AM

MelonFan123 wrote:

WOW! step off the ledge and calm down

2018 CRF 230F = $4299 MSRP
updated FI equipped CRF 250F = $4599 MSRP

A $300 increase for updated styling and fuel injection. Honda should actually be applauded!!

$300 is about the price for a carb clean when your 230F has been sitting unridden for a few months and all of a sudden it's riding season and your bike won't start or runs like crap...which is VERY common for those bikes and the people that buy and use them.

300$ for a carb cleaning! Put down your fidget spinner and do it yourself for free.

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11/6/2018 11:46 AM

If some manufacturers returned to producing additional two-stroke models, I fully expect people to complain about how much the new ones would cost versus the "old days". wink

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11/6/2018 11:49 AM

MelonFan123 wrote:

WOW! step off the ledge and calm down

2018 CRF 230F = $4299 MSRP
updated FI equipped CRF 250F = $4599 MSRP

A $300 increase for updated styling and fuel injection. Honda should actually be applauded!!

$300 is about the price for a carb clean when your 230F has been sitting unridden for a few months and all of a sudden it's riding season and your bike won't start or runs like crap...which is VERY common for those bikes and the people that buy and use them.

jsmi33966 wrote:

300$ for a carb cleaning! Put down your fidget spinner and do it yourself for free.

Yeah, goddamnit! Learn to work on a carb or find another sport! We don't want your kind around here.

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Current rides: 2016 KTM 250SXF, 2017 KTM 350SXF

11/6/2018 11:50 AM
Edited Date/Time: 11/6/2018 11:52 AM

I guess I'm old school, I like simplicity. I'll take a carb over FI any day. I've even converted my FI Harley to carburetor. It seems overkill to have it on a kids trail bike.

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11/6/2018 11:51 AM

Is there one person on earth that truly loves jetting a bike or cleaning a carb??? My kids only want to ride so often, so the idea of not having to clean the carb or fuck with jetting is quite appealing to me..... Good job Honda

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11/6/2018 11:51 AM

MelonFan123 wrote:

WOW! step off the ledge and calm down

2018 CRF 230F = $4299 MSRP
updated FI equipped CRF 250F = $4599 MSRP

A $300 increase for updated styling and fuel injection. Honda should actually be applauded!!

$300 is about the price for a carb clean when your 230F has been sitting unridden for a few months and all of a sudden it's riding season and your bike won't start or runs like crap...which is VERY common for those bikes and the people that buy and use them.

jsmi33966 wrote:

300$ for a carb cleaning! Put down your fidget spinner and do it yourself for free.

I'd agree, but after working at a shop for 4 years your view changes. I do it all myself after learning at the shop and can probably do it in my sleep, but a lot of guys don't want to bother. Carb cleans were a lot of our business in the back of the shop. $95 for labor to clean it, $95 to remove and reinstall the carb plus the price of jets and whatever else it may need. I myself don't charge that much to clean carbs or remove/reinstall, but it's a lot of the work that I do. Even on a bike as easy as a ttr125 or crf150f, people don't want to do it.

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2017 RMZ450
2005 YZ250-sold :,(
1998 YZ250
2005 KX250F

80% of the time it works every time
IG @hammerfamily_4 & @2HRacing
Thanks to : Factory Effex, N2Dirt, Acerbis, DT1, Fasthouse, Matix, FMF, ASV, 100% & Mika Metals

11/6/2018 11:51 AM

MelonFan123 wrote:

WOW! step off the ledge and calm down

2018 CRF 230F = $4299 MSRP
updated FI equipped CRF 250F = $4599 MSRP

A $300 increase for updated styling and fuel injection. Honda should actually be applauded!!

$300 is about the price for a carb clean when your 230F has been sitting unridden for a few months and all of a sudden it's riding season and your bike won't start or runs like crap...which is VERY common for those bikes and the people that buy and use them.

I was cleaning carburators jetting the bike and could rebuild a top end before I could drive a car. I guess the future generation wont have that skill set. Just stay on your cell phone all day and pay the bike shop to do it in 2019.

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11/6/2018 11:56 AM

Motox627! wrote:

Is there one person on earth that truly loves jetting a bike or cleaning a carb??? My kids only want to ride so often, so the idea of not having to clean the carb or fuck with jetting is quite appealing to me..... Good job Honda

Yes my dad truly loves working on his bike and I don't mind it. I also take pride in not being a little millennial wimp who cant clean or jet a carburator.

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11/6/2018 11:56 AM

I actually sold both of my trail 90's because I was absolutely sick of cleaning carbs. Good job Honda, I'm thinking that 125F is now an even more awesome pit bike.

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11/6/2018 11:58 AM

jsmi33966 wrote:

I was cleaning carburators jetting the bike and could rebuild a top end before I could drive a car. I guess the future generation wont have that skill set. Just stay on your cell phone all day and pay the bike shop to do it in 2019.

Do you want a biscuit or a cookie for this amazing life accomplishment?

Look, it's clear how you feel. Good news for you there is an abundant market of gently used trail bikes with gummed up carbs that you'll be able to buy cheap then clean and fix up all by yourself. Yay!

Still not sure why you're so angry?

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11/6/2018 11:58 AM

Great move by Honda. OP should calm his tits and get on board.

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11/6/2018 11:58 AM

Motox627! wrote:

Is there one person on earth that truly loves jetting a bike or cleaning a carb??? My kids only want to ride so often, so the idea of not having to clean the carb or fuck with jetting is quite appealing to me..... Good job Honda

jsmi33966 wrote:

Yes my dad truly loves working on his bike and I don't mind it. I also take pride in not being a little millennial wimp who cant clean or jet a carburator.

I think there is a difference in people who cant, and people that don't want to...…..

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11/6/2018 12:02 PM

If you cant fix a Honda trail bike just give up your man card these are the easiest bikes to work on. I could pound a 5th of Tequila and fix an XR carb with one eye open faster than your sister on a first date no problem

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11/6/2018 12:06 PM

It also looks like they switched to box section perimeter frames on the new models. Are they aluminum?

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11/6/2018 12:08 PM

jsmi33966 wrote:

If you cant fix a Honda trail bike just give up your man card these are the easiest bikes to work on. I could pound a 5th of Tequila and fix an XR carb with one eye open faster than your sister on a first date no problem

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