Herlings win taken away?

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9/12/2016 7:06 PM

So I have heard that FIM is stripping herrings of the GH win because of the KTM taking the bike to the semi and removing the fuel right after Moto. When they got the bike it was empty of fuel to test. Anyone heard this?

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9/12/2016 7:12 PM

Well if they didn't do anything to the golden boy of MXGP for jumping on waved yellows, they won't do anything to his successor.

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9/12/2016 7:13 PM

I thought they didn't have fuel restrictions for the two USGP's. I thought they were just running tests on bikes for experimental reasons.

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9/12/2016 7:20 PM
Edited Date/Time: 9/12/2016 7:21 PM

Ya...I heard Herlings was on a "PEF."..performance enhancing fuel. I hope for his girlfriends sake.... his balls don't shrink!

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9/12/2016 7:21 PM

Wow that would be crazy, I thought they waved the fuel deal while in America?

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9/12/2016 7:54 PM

Has any one heard that he might be out for mxdn? Or am I just again hearing stupid stuff?

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9/12/2016 7:58 PM

It comes from a solid source. The same one who told me Roczen would be going to Honda over a year ago....

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9/12/2016 8:02 PM

crusty_xx wrote:

Has any one heard that he might be out for mxdn? Or am I just again hearing stupid stuff?

honestly from reading open mic from racerx sounds like he aint tht pumped for it , prolly getting worned out

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go dungey & roczen

#ChewBroca
so jerking off will help arm pump issues........ sweet lol

9/12/2016 9:49 PM
Edited Date/Time: 9/12/2016 9:51 PM

He was going so hard and fast he probably ran it dry on the last lap. Can't test vapor. shocked

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9/12/2016 10:06 PM

Ktm wraps up the title the week before then decides Herlings needs whatever little advantage he can get by cheating with illegal fuel to win the last race ? I don't buy it.

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9/12/2016 10:12 PM

What a bullshit, the bike is on the podium right after the race. So they have enough time to take some fuel if this rumor is true. Weird rumor, KTM would be crazy and the biggest loser in this story if it would be true, but i dont believe it. FIM got enough time for it and should have stopped him right after the race or on the podium, not some time later where the team can work on the bike. BTW how can you DQ someone if you not even know what is in it haha.

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9/12/2016 10:13 PM

SCR wrote:

Ktm wraps up the title the week before then decides Herlings needs whatever little advantage he can get by cheating with illegal fuel to win the last race ? I don't buy it.

I'll agree, sounds silly.

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9/12/2016 10:16 PM

Interesting if true....

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9/12/2016 10:39 PM

They gave herrings to the podium guys? I thought the only place to ate herrings was The Netherlands..

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9/12/2016 10:42 PM
Edited Date/Time: 9/12/2016 10:48 PM

SCR wrote:

Ktm wraps up the title the week before then decides Herlings needs whatever little advantage he can get by cheating with illegal fuel to win the last race ? I don't buy it.

Dan-The-Man wrote:

I'll agree, sounds silly.

If what OP says is even remotely true, I guess KTM got tired of racing handicapped, since USA guys are allowed to run their own fuel, but GP guys are forced to follow rules. Sound testing and fuel samples are taken right after the race, I mean immediately after you exit the track. This could be true only if Herlings rode straight to semi after the race, which he did not.
Bullshit.

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9/12/2016 10:51 PM

Why wouldn't they all be allowed to run the same fuel ?

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9/12/2016 10:56 PM
Edited Date/Time: 9/12/2016 10:56 PM

SCR wrote:

Why wouldn't they all be allowed to run the same fuel ?

Rule book.
Luongo is bending all the rules just to get USA guys participate. He even charges them 10 times less. He`s desperate.

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9/12/2016 10:58 PM

SCR wrote:

Why wouldn't they all be allowed to run the same fuel ?

kongols wrote:

Rule book.
Luongo is bending all the rules just to get USA guys participate. He even charges them 10 times less. He`s desperate.

I thought reed ended that rumour at Charlotte and said they're all running the same. Did that change again?

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9/12/2016 11:00 PM

haydos25 wrote:

I thought reed ended that rumour at Charlotte and said they're all running the same. Did that change again?

Only if you believe what Reed said.

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9/12/2016 11:05 PM

SCR wrote:

Why wouldn't they all be allowed to run the same fuel ?

kongols wrote:

Rule book.
Luongo is bending all the rules just to get USA guys participate. He even charges them 10 times less. He`s desperate.

Is that actually true? What about the MXDN?

PS: I went to Washougal this year, the smell of that race fuel !! It should be aftershave!!

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9/12/2016 11:07 PM

Michael promised to scoop around about fuel issues. I`m still waiting on his report, if he`s allowed to talk. Maybe he doesn`t want to get blacklisted by Luongo, then we`ll be left to just speculate.grin cool whistling

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9/12/2016 11:09 PM
Edited Date/Time: 9/12/2016 11:14 PM

scottydogmx wrote:

Is that actually true? What about the MXDN?

PS: I went to Washougal this year, the smell of that race fuel !! It should be aftershave!!

For a first time about this I heard around 10 years ago. Then it was like this. USA team has list of demands and if you do not agree, they won`t come.
But I understand them. GP guys race this setup all year long, but USA teams would need to do a lot of testing and change their bike just for one race, therefor they want to race the same bike and same set up they race all year long.

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9/12/2016 11:12 PM

kongols wrote:

Rule book.
Luongo is bending all the rules just to get USA guys participate. He even charges them 10 times less. He`s desperate.

scottydogmx wrote:

Is that actually true? What about the MXDN?

PS: I went to Washougal this year, the smell of that race fuel !! It should be aftershave!!

kongols wrote:

For a first time about this I heard around 10 years ago. Then it was like this. USA team has list of demands and if you do not agree, they won`t come.
But I understand them. GP guys race this setup all year long, but USA teams would need to do a lot of testing and change their bike just for one race, therefor they want to race the same bike and same set up they race all year long.

Oh, are the exhausts different aswell, they definitely sounded louder or is that just the fuel perhaps?

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9/12/2016 11:16 PM

SCR wrote:

Ktm wraps up the title the week before then decides Herlings needs whatever little advantage he can get by cheating with illegal fuel to win the last race ? I don't buy it.

Dan-The-Man wrote:

I'll agree, sounds silly.

kongols wrote:

If what OP says is even remotely true, I guess KTM got tired of racing handicapped, since USA guys are allowed to run their own fuel, but GP guys are forced to follow rules. Sound testing and fuel samples are taken right after the race, I mean immediately after you exit the track. This could be true only if Herlings rode straight to semi after the race, which he did not.
Bullshit.

He rode straight to the podium after the second moto. We talked to him because my friend was waving a Dutch flag. He saw him a few times and heard him cheering him on. Then he waited for the presentation. But I'm not sure where the bike went.

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9/12/2016 11:19 PM

motomx88 wrote:

He rode straight to the podium after the second moto. We talked to him because my friend was waving a Dutch flag. He saw him a few times and heard him cheering him on. Then he waited for the presentation. But I'm not sure where the bike went.

Then this rumor is bullshit, cause if you are chosen for inspection, you have official next to you immediately as you pull off the track..

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9/12/2016 11:22 PM

scottydogmx wrote:

Oh, are the exhausts different aswell, they definitely sounded louder or is that just the fuel perhaps?

Sound too.

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9/12/2016 11:37 PM

kongols wrote:

For a first time about this I heard around 10 years ago. Then it was like this. USA team has list of demands and if you do not agree, they won`t come.
But I understand them. GP guys race this setup all year long, but USA teams would need to do a lot of testing and change their bike just for one race, therefor they want to race the same bike and same set up they race all year long.

scottydogmx wrote:

Oh, are the exhausts different aswell, they definitely sounded louder or is that just the fuel perhaps?

kongols wrote:

Sound too.

That sounds unfair, but some could argue the mxgp bikes are full factory versus standard with just race fuel , exhaust and a limit on the amount spent on suspension so it cancels each out?

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9/12/2016 11:41 PM

I heard same thing. When they come to US they can run AMA fuel or FIM fuel. So how would KTM be cheating unless they are using a fuel that is illegal to both FIM and AMA? If they are then don't they have to do all the testing and set up for that fuel also ? And at the end of the day would there really be that big of an advantage. It's not Nascar.

Or are you saying only US teams can run AMA fuel ?

Anyway sounds ridiculous to me also. But I am curious about the rule and the rumor.

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9/12/2016 11:47 PM

SCR wrote:

I heard same thing. When they come to US they can run AMA fuel or FIM fuel. So how would KTM be cheating unless they are using a fuel that is illegal to both FIM and AMA? If they are then don't they have to do all the testing and set up for that fuel also ? And at the end of the day would there really be that big of an advantage. It's not Nascar.

Or are you saying only US teams can run AMA fuel ?

Anyway sounds ridiculous to me also. But I am curious about the rule and the rumor.

We have to wait for Michael to chime in.

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9/13/2016 12:04 AM

Everyone was running the same US spec fuel. Kongols could create bullshit drama at a deaf nun convention. Man you guys are really butt hurt Herlings got beat. Holy cow!!!!

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