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Amazing what this kid has achieved in just four years on the GP scene and at such a young age. Check this peice I did for the YS website.
Herlings going for records
The next couple of months might see something special happen in the FIM MX2 World Championship as young Dutchman Jeffrey Herlings continues to climb up the list of all-time GP winners.
Already this year with two GP wins in Qatar and Thailand (taking him to 33 GP wins) he has passed the legendary Finnish rider Heikki Mikkola (who has 32 GP wins), and up ahead of him are more legends in waiting.
It is more than likely that he will end up fifth in the all-time list at the end of the 2014 season, possibly just a couple of GP wins behind long time record holder Joel Robert (50 GP wins), who holds fourth place in the list.
At present though just ahead of him are Roger De Coster (Belgium) with 36 wins, Torsten Hallman (Sweden) with 37 wins, Mickael Pichon (France) with 38 wins and Eric Geboers (Belgium) with 39 wins.
He should without too much problem pass these guys within the next two months (Brazil, Italy, Bulgaria, Holland, Spain and Great Britain in this period). Of course, to join Geboers the Dutchman needs to win all six GPs, which is more likely than not.
Once past Geboers only Joel Robert (50 wins), Joel Smets (57 wins), Antonio Cairoli (64 wins) and Stefan Everts (101 wins) stand in his way.
A move to the MXGP class in 2015 will slow his progress, but anything is possible with this amazing talent. Everts and Cairoli will be hard to catch, but you can count on the Red Bull KTM Factory Racing rider focusing on this record, because just like his mentor Stefan Everts records mean a lot to him.
All time GP winners
Stefan Everts 101
Antonio Cairoli 64
Joel Smets 57
Joel Robert 50
Eric Geboers 39
Mickael Pichon 38
Torsten Hallman 37
Roger De Coster 36
Jeffrey Herlings 33
Heikki Mikkola 32
Gaston Rahier 30
Georges Jobe 28
Andre Malherbe 28
Paul Friedrichs 28
Dave Strijbos 27
Alessio Chiodi 26
Jeff Smith 25
Harry Everts 23
Dave Thorpe 22
Alex Puzar 22
Herlings going for records
The next couple of months might see something special happen in the FIM MX2 World Championship as young Dutchman Jeffrey Herlings continues to climb up the list of all-time GP winners.
Already this year with two GP wins in Qatar and Thailand (taking him to 33 GP wins) he has passed the legendary Finnish rider Heikki Mikkola (who has 32 GP wins), and up ahead of him are more legends in waiting.
It is more than likely that he will end up fifth in the all-time list at the end of the 2014 season, possibly just a couple of GP wins behind long time record holder Joel Robert (50 GP wins), who holds fourth place in the list.
At present though just ahead of him are Roger De Coster (Belgium) with 36 wins, Torsten Hallman (Sweden) with 37 wins, Mickael Pichon (France) with 38 wins and Eric Geboers (Belgium) with 39 wins.
He should without too much problem pass these guys within the next two months (Brazil, Italy, Bulgaria, Holland, Spain and Great Britain in this period). Of course, to join Geboers the Dutchman needs to win all six GPs, which is more likely than not.
Once past Geboers only Joel Robert (50 wins), Joel Smets (57 wins), Antonio Cairoli (64 wins) and Stefan Everts (101 wins) stand in his way.
A move to the MXGP class in 2015 will slow his progress, but anything is possible with this amazing talent. Everts and Cairoli will be hard to catch, but you can count on the Red Bull KTM Factory Racing rider focusing on this record, because just like his mentor Stefan Everts records mean a lot to him.
All time GP winners
Stefan Everts 101
Antonio Cairoli 64
Joel Smets 57
Joel Robert 50
Eric Geboers 39
Mickael Pichon 38
Torsten Hallman 37
Roger De Coster 36
Jeffrey Herlings 33
Heikki Mikkola 32
Gaston Rahier 30
Georges Jobe 28
Andre Malherbe 28
Paul Friedrichs 28
Dave Strijbos 27
Alessio Chiodi 26
Jeff Smith 25
Harry Everts 23
Dave Thorpe 22
Alex Puzar 22
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But there no competition for him and until he goes over to race the best mx2 riders in the world and does what he is doing in the gp's he can't be classed as a legend sorry.
As good as he is when he comes up against people like baggett, Wilson and then moves up to the 450 class and does the same then make a thread on him been a legend.
when he comes to THE mx series and beats everyone that might be something to hang your hat on... im just not that impressed with him other than on a sand track.
Bet Mr. "Herlings" would say the same. Sure he's fast, just not here in the proven grounds called the States.
Race 2 - MX2/Open
1. Jeffrey Herlings (NED, KTM), 34:41.619;
2. Tanel Leok (EST, Suzuki), +0:58.141;
3. Ken de Dycker (BEL, KTM), +1:00.358;
4. Ken Roczen (GER, KTM), +1:48.464;
5. Davide Guarneri (ITA, KTM), +2:27.689;
6. Blake Baggett (USA, Kawasaki), -1 lap(s);
7. Marcus Schiffer (GER, Suzuki), -1 lap(s);
8. Todd Waters (AUS, Suzuki), -1 lap(s);
9. Max Anstie (GBR, Honda), -1 lap(s);
10. Xavier Boog (FRA, Kawasaki), -1 lap(s);
11. Marvin Musquin (FRA, KTM), -1 lap(s);
12. Alexander Tonkov (RUS, Honda), -1 lap(s);
13. Luis Correia (POR, Yamaha), -1 lap(s);
14. Justin Barcia (USA, Honda), -1 lap(s);
Race 3 - MX1/Open
1. Antonio Cairoli (ITA, KTM), 35:00.015;
2. Jeffrey Herlings (NED, KTM), +0:03.037;
3. Justin Barcia (USA, Honda), +0:57.823;
4. Tanel Leok (EST, Suzuki), +1:23.257;
5. Ken de Dycker (BEL, KTM), +1:29.784;
6. Maximilian Nagl (GER, KTM), +1:37.774;
7. Clement Desalle (BEL, Suzuki), +1:49.089;
8. Gautier Paulin (FRA, Kawasaki), +1:56.647;
9. Ryan Dungey (USA, KTM), +2:00.599;
Pit Row
There are dozens of tiddler class superstars (on both sides of the pond) who fizzle out once they move up to the premier class.
If he can dominate MX1 like he is MX2, and proves to have some longevity in that class, then he can be considered a legend...right now the best that can be said of him is that he he is a phenomenal 250 rider and has a ton of potential to do great things in the MX1 class in the future...if he capitalizes on that potential is yet to be seen.
Alessio Chiodi is a legend, three 125cc titles and 26 GP wins. I call a guy a legend when he does something special, and sitting between riders like Geboers, De Coster, Mikkola and Hallman and Rahier makes him a legend in my books.
Even if he never won another GP in his life, he has moved into the legendary status and will stay there forever. What is amazing about this kid, he isn't even close to his best. Bring on 2015 and the MX1 class.
But he didn't.....he stayed down in a class which really gives him no competition. Sandbagging at it's finest. I could see if he actually struggled a little every now and then for top 3-5 at some races......but he doesn't. He basically ruined the MX2 class....and is to chickenshit to move up.
But does it qualify when he's racing in a class where any developing competition is forced out under an age rule?
And where there are no other world champions racing? And few riders who have even won a GP before?
And in a class where if he does get a bad start he only has about half of the riders to pass that somebody like Mikkola had to?
And in a class/series where there are 50% more GPs available to win per season than there were back in the day? (18 as opposed to 12)
As I said, Herlings is good, but the statistics are mis-leading.
and they showed you what was up with the euros, come in from waving your flag and talking shit and recognise talent on either side of the pond
i'm sure baggett thought he was pretty quick when he lapped him, rv must have been impressed in france with a 16 yr old beating him on a 350....rant over
Cairolli and Herlings won't race in the AMA series as long as Yoofstream are paying them to stay in MXGP.
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