Herlings Corner Speed

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8/27/2017 4:09 PM

It's amazing how quickly Herlings has his feet back on the pegs when railing a corner. While other riders still have a leg extended, JH has his boot back on the peg, allowing him to accelerate sooner and with greater authority. There's likely some degree of natural "balance" in the execution, but it's a lesson his competitors may need to learn.

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8/27/2017 4:52 PM

Yup, gotta agree that his corner speed was impressive, and that's where race's are won for the most part. Hope our guy's will take note.

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There's something happening here, what it is ain't exactly clear.

8/27/2017 4:59 PM

No doubt, jh was hauling ass and looking exceptionally smooth while doing so.

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8/27/2017 5:37 PM
Edited Date/Time: 8/27/2017 5:38 PM

suspension looked quite a bit softer. same as mxdn. US bikes don't look to handle as good, set up stiff.
His bike actually looked like it was squatting. when is the last time you seen that in the USA?

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8/27/2017 5:50 PM
Edited Date/Time: 8/28/2017 11:09 AM

Knew two people that had that speed through the turns but never made it big because they had other Visus.


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8/27/2017 5:51 PM

Agree on the suspension, his bike looked like it was hooked up and driving.

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8/27/2017 5:52 PM

He knows how to maintain his corner speed. He doesn't go in too hot and bury the bike. He is also able to stay out of the deep part of the ruts or the "rut outs" that hook the bike and get you all screwey. He looked very comfortable and just carried his spied so well.

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8/27/2017 7:51 PM

Guy there in East Texas, Michael Dean Gage, has riding style like that. Feet quickly back on the pegs or never off. One of the fast Vet riders around, just so smooth he doesn't look like he is going fast lol.

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8/27/2017 8:08 PM

Langston mentioned JH was running Pirelli....hmmm. interesting.

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There's something happening here, what it is ain't exactly clear.

8/27/2017 8:18 PM
Edited Date/Time: 8/27/2017 8:20 PM

Kind of reminds me of the guy in the front of this picture. He would do entire sweepers WFO, on the pegs. It was a sight to behold:

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8/27/2017 8:22 PM

Dungeys corner speed is what caught Decosters eye back in the day.

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The older I get, the faster I was.

8/27/2017 8:28 PM

Steel frames

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8/27/2017 8:31 PM

cable wrote:

suspension looked quite a bit softer. same as mxdn. US bikes don't look to handle as good, set up stiff.
His bike actually looked like it was squatting. when is the last time you seen that in the USA?

Absolutely agree. Watch when he went past the 4 riders battling.

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8/27/2017 8:49 PM

ledger wrote:

Langston mentioned JH was running Pirelli....hmmm. interesting.

I was intrigued by this too. However, other factory teams here, JGR being one, had Pirelli's last year. From what I heard, that was more of a negative then a positive in the riders' opinion.
The part I was most curious about is which Pirelli's he was on. In press day photos it looked like he was using a sand tire, did he race with that? I think all the Dunlops were the MX3S.

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8/27/2017 9:17 PM

I wouldn't put it down to his tires.. Technique/skill, a life time of riding rough sand tracks.

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"Nothing happens until something moves"

8/27/2017 9:47 PM

Jeffry Hastings is the shit man.

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8/27/2017 10:22 PM

wildbill wrote:

Jeffry Hastings is the shit man.

It's Jeremy Hastings, man! Come on, get his name right...lol

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"Nothing happens until something moves"

8/27/2017 11:03 PM

wildbill wrote:

Jeffry Hastings is the shit man.

tempura wrote:

It's Jeremy Hastings, man! Come on, get his name right...lol

Johnny Hashtag?

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8/27/2017 11:32 PM

wildbill wrote:

Jeffry Hastings is the shit man.

tempura wrote:

It's Jeremy Hastings, man! Come on, get his name right...lol

RoflCopter726 wrote:

Johnny Hashtag?

^^^^ grin

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There's something happening here, what it is ain't exactly clear.

8/27/2017 11:45 PM
Edited Date/Time: 8/27/2017 11:46 PM

Jorefy Her-lingeries

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8/28/2017 12:08 AM

endurox wrote:

Steel frames

I think it helps; numbers don't lie. Wonder if the all conquering Joffery "Lannister" Herlings took an American wench with him as he left the track?

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8/28/2017 12:09 AM

I noticed when he hits the deep ruts he doesn't plow them and bounce. He's just smooth through the rut. By not unsettling the suspension he gains time. Don't think it had anything to do with when his leg comes up to the peg.

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8/28/2017 1:04 AM
Edited Date/Time: 8/28/2017 1:06 AM

Tomac as a better corner skill.

A lot of people said Tomac rode over his head at the beginning moto 1, i dont tkink so, he was back on him.

I feel he could have crunched him when he wanted or almost.

Look again at the beginning of the race and make your opinion.

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8/28/2017 1:17 AM

WCRider wrote:

Tomac as a better corner skill.

A lot of people said Tomac rode over his head at the beginning moto 1, i dont tkink so, he was back on him.

I feel he could have crunched him when he wanted or almost.

Look again at the beginning of the race and make your opinion.

They both have amazing cornerspeed but for totally different reasons.

Herlings stands on the pegs alot a´la SE72 and carries momentum around the track.

ET3 sits down alot and blasts with full force and full wheelspin into the turns with amazing determination.

Its typically been like this throughout the year when you compare ridingstyles between the US and the GP riders.

Nothing "better" than the other.

And as usual "shoulda woulda coulda". Herlings beat Tomac that that and yes he was on cruise control but it doesnt change the fact that we´ll never know otherwise. It´s just what happened.

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8/28/2017 1:23 AM

"Herlings stands on the pegs alot a´la SE72 and carries momentum around the track.

ET3 sits down alot and blasts with full force and full wheelspin into the turns with amazing determination."

Good observation wink

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8/28/2017 1:52 AM

WCRider wrote:

"Herlings stands on the pegs alot a´la SE72 and carries momentum around the track.

ET3 sits down alot and blasts with full force and full wheelspin into the turns with amazing determination."

Good observation wink

Lol reading your comments from a couple threads about the Dutch being arrogant or now saying flat out Tomac has better corner skill shows a bit of where your heads at. Sounds like you just hate the guy lol, cause you def cant hate his riding.... if u do youre not a fan of Moto. Hes new generation of style and technique. equivalent to when James first came on the scene.
Tomac is also high caliber when he is on.
Next week we will get to witness another great battle as Tomac will want redemption and Jeffrey will want to put his final stamp on US soil.
Its a WIN WIN situation for all

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8/28/2017 1:59 AM

If it comes down to suspension and tires we should see some bike changes for next season. The AMA teams and riders must be kicking themselves for missing such a simple set up issue whistling

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8/28/2017 2:06 AM

Boots, legs, body position.

I see the Everts skill in the Tomac ride especially with his way of riding a lot with the legs (intensity)
Tomac is more "brutal" but i see an identical technique.

For me Everts and Tomac are more beautiful to watch than Herlings; I dont like that much his body position.

Question of taste smile



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8/28/2017 2:06 AM

Rowlands wrote:

If it comes down to suspension and tires we should see some bike changes for next season. The AMA teams and riders must be kicking themselves for missing such a simple set up issue whistling

120mm sag and a pirelli paddle on the back.....thats the secret

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8/28/2017 2:08 AM

I predict Tomac wads himself up chasing JH at the GP if he gets in a battle with him.

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