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8/10/2022 9:04 AM
Edited Date/Time: 8/10/2022 9:32 AM

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8/10/2022 9:08 AM

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8/10/2022 9:11 AM

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8/10/2022 9:15 AM

Looks flat across the top. Seems like that would lead to poor handling.

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8/10/2022 9:17 AM

5 lbs lighter than the previous model. Damn!

The bike looks heaps better too.

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8/10/2022 9:18 AM

aeffertz wrote:

5 lbs lighter than the previous model. Damn!

The bike looks heaps better too.

How much do the KTM's weigh in comparison?

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8/10/2022 9:26 AM

mx_579 wrote:

Looks flat across the top. Seems like that would lead to poor handling.

If I had to make an observation about handling from photos, it looks to me like the bike will push. The motor mass looks like it's so far back from the front wheel compared to the other bikes. But photos can be deceiving.

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8/10/2022 9:28 AM

5 pounds lighter. If I bought one and lost 30 pounds it would be 35 pounds lighter…………..I think I did the math right!!

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8/10/2022 9:34 AM

Still no hydro clutch. Tomac should be happy.

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8/10/2022 9:38 AM
Edited Date/Time: 8/10/2022 11:08 AM

Front number plate and fender look like theyre off a yz80

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8/10/2022 9:42 AM

Took them a while, but they finally copied the TwinAir power flow air filter.

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8/10/2022 9:47 AM

suspensionguy wrote:

Front number plate and fender look like theyre off a yz80

Looks like the one on the Varg...
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8/10/2022 9:53 AM

I'm gonna say it.
That front number plate is trash.

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8/10/2022 9:56 AM

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

How much do the KTM's weigh in comparison?

Probably pretty similar if KTM lists their bikes without fuel and Yamaha lists theirs as “wet weight”. We’ll have to wait and see until one outlet can weigh them all equally.

Not that it really matters anyway, the heavier model still beat the lighter KTM in shootouts years prior. But props for still trying to push the “blue pig” agenda.

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8/10/2022 9:58 AM

suspensionguy wrote:

Front number plate and fender look like theyre off a yz80

Haha I was thinking the same thing

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8/10/2022 9:59 AM

aeffertz wrote:

5 lbs lighter than the previous model. Damn!

The bike looks heaps better too.

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

How much do the KTM's weigh in comparison?

aeffertz wrote:

Probably pretty similar if KTM lists their bikes without fuel and Yamaha lists theirs as “wet weight”. We’ll have to wait and ...more

Most wet weights are without fuel. They consider wet weight with engine oil, fork oil and coolants. Basically ready to ride except gas.

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8/10/2022 9:59 AM

Teej317 wrote:

I'm gonna say it.
That front number plate is trash.

It's like a ktm the cables all route behind it now.

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8/10/2022 10:06 AM

22 vs 23:

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8/10/2022 10:09 AM

flat seat looks odd but other than that, bike looks nice.

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8/10/2022 10:09 AM

aeffertz wrote:

5 lbs lighter than the previous model. Damn!

The bike looks heaps better too.

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

How much do the KTM's weigh in comparison?

aeffertz wrote:

Probably pretty similar if KTM lists their bikes without fuel and Yamaha lists theirs as “wet weight”. We’ll have to wait and ...more

You are a sensitive one....I"m not trying to push the blue pig agenda as I witnessed the blue pig die in Anaheim. People simply want to know how close it is to the lightest bike out there.

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8/10/2022 10:09 AM

The Gasgas front fender looks good with those Suzuki shrouds!

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8/10/2022 10:11 AM

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

22 vs 23:

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Thought it looked a little funky at first but after seeing them back to back like this it’s growing on me…

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8/10/2022 10:13 AM
Edited Date/Time: 8/10/2022 10:13 AM

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

How much do the KTM's weigh in comparison?

aeffertz wrote:

Probably pretty similar if KTM lists their bikes without fuel and Yamaha lists theirs as “wet weight”. We’ll have to wait and ...more

McG194 wrote:

Most wet weights are without fuel. They consider wet weight with engine oil, fork oil and coolants. Basically ready to ride ...more

Japanese wet weight includes fuel. KTM does not.

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8/10/2022 10:15 AM

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

22 vs 23:

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Lloydcarter wrote:

Thought it looked a little funky at first but after seeing them back to back like this it’s growing on me…

I think the new bike looks great. The old version was long in the tooth and long overdue for a makeover. Comparing them side by side the new one looks much better.

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8/10/2022 10:15 AM

GG121 wrote:

The Gasgas front fender looks good with those Suzuki shrouds!

Kawi/Prev Gen KTM shrouds

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8/10/2022 10:16 AM

aeffertz wrote:

Probably pretty similar if KTM lists their bikes without fuel and Yamaha lists theirs as “wet weight”. We’ll have to wait and ...more

McG194 wrote:

Most wet weights are without fuel. They consider wet weight with engine oil, fork oil and coolants. Basically ready to ride ...more

Broseph wrote:

Japanese wet weight includes fuel. KTM does not.

What is your guess at the KTM 450 wet weight?

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8/10/2022 10:23 AM

McG194 wrote:

Most wet weights are without fuel. They consider wet weight with engine oil, fork oil and coolants. Basically ready to ride ...more

Broseph wrote:

Japanese wet weight includes fuel. KTM does not.

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

What is your guess at the KTM 450 wet weight?

‘23 450SXF is listed at 226lbs. Add 1.9 gallons of gas at 6lb/gal and you get 237lbs.

So ‘23 wet weights are:
KTM 450: 237 lbs
YZ 450: 240 lbs

The KTM holds .3 gallons more fuel, so subtract 1.8 lbs to match the YZ in fuel capacity.

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8/10/2022 10:24 AM

Broseph wrote:

Japanese wet weight includes fuel. KTM does not.

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

What is your guess at the KTM 450 wet weight?

Broseph wrote:

‘23 450SXF is listed at 226lbs. Add 1.9 gallons of gas at 6lb/gal and you get 237lbs.

So ‘23 wet weights are:
KTM 450: 237 ...more

Sounds like Yamaha did a great job then.

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8/10/2022 10:28 AM

Bike looks nice.

Interesting they copied the ktm clutch with Bellville spring and one piece basket but didn't go as far as kawi when they added hydro

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8/10/2022 10:29 AM

Objectively better looking then the previous gen. ESP the back half of the bike. Shroud design is not very imaginative.

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