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That said, this a big deal for FLY as it represents their entrance into the off the shelf, techno safety helmet market
That black one is awesome.
One wasn't as good as expected.
ALL "quality" helmets these days - have a minimum standard of safety that is excellent and if you spend 300 on up at retail (plenty of bargin deals on these at 100 on up) you have an excellent helmet
While not everyone feels the value to part with 650 or 800 vs 150 - to some that extra money - if the protection is there - is worth it.
Sadly I feel until 6d and now this - a lot of helmet pricing was branding - as construction between a fly f2 or a shoei is incredibly similar.
I actually totally agree with arai - the round shape and "basic look" is safer than cool shaping but its harder to sell...
Leading physicists with PHD's isn't enough info? What i find cool - is fly went out and hired people respected in their fields for this, and spent big money to do it.
Any PHD physicist given the task of helmet design will do a good job. especially if given budget and time.
It's unethical - and totally against the core values of the WPS owner to talk down on other companies. If you look at the company - their staff, and their history they have NO history bad mouthing.
One rule in life - don't gossip - or talk shit on other people. People love gossip - but staying out of it for some is important.
I should have never commented on what I do know. It was a mistake. So I'lll walk it back.
I'd gladly trust a shoei - I own one. I DO NOT like the design shaping lips it had conceptually - it catches on the ground - just something that makes sense to me
Arai - gladly wear one and trust it - they are stubborn for good reason and didn't cave to "market demand" of looks
Bell - gladly wear and trust it
Fox - gladly wear and trust it
TLD - gladly wear and trust it
F2 - my current helmet - have sadly tested it out a few times last few years. Gladly wear and trust it - IMHO challenged the market to offer premium helmets at low prices - and the market is doing that.
6d - gladly wear and trust it. I think is in the top heap of helmets - and for most people would reduce concussions in the type of crashes we have
Leatt - I love their outward looking in approach. Love the data the do publish. I have no experience with them - but off their history would gladly wear and trust it.
Astar - gladly wear and trust it - really like it's look.
I can't think of anything else off hand - but IM sure there are plenty that are sufficient. When you cut a helmet open - shy of 6D, flex, or new fly - they all really do the same things. Same foam - similar shells, etc. Cheap helmets - so long as the company is honest internally - are totally sufficient. maybe some are heavier - less quality liners - etc. From what i have learned - is the biggest difference is the shell. Cheaper helmets use a plastic shell - but the same foams. The shell has more flex - which looks bad in your hand - and weigh more. But under an impact they still do a good job
The carbons - allow thinner shells that weigh less but that are strong enough for the puncture./high impact tests.
That's really the "magic" of carbon
What I wanted to illustrate in this thread - is that FINALLY we have innovation coming to helmets. It's real - it's effective - and its GREAT for us consumers.
This helmet in 2-3 years will become the STANDARD for fly - and be offered at lower price points.
Thats true of all the manufacturers - pricing and quality/performance will improve. The concepts introduced by 6d, leatt, fly, bell - will be studied and improved on by other companies - making the market improve - the consumer be safer - and everyone happier.
I think shoei will HAVE To respond soon.
TLD innovated the forehead area - realizing in crash data many impacts came there.
MIPS was a great, simple, improvement for ALL helmets - and adopted by almost all
Im excited - Im happy for all the riding community - and that's my point.
Off the high horse - carry on.
https://youtu.be/kkHPnwgMnO4
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/caught-on-cam-man-tosses-ice-cubes-on-floo…
The Shop
As for people doubting WPS has the resources to research and design something like this, you do not really know how R&D is done. Most companies, unless they are in the $1B+ sales range, do not have dedicated internal R&D Departments. They have an Engineering Product Manager, and often a lot of the R&D is done though outside consultancies under the management of the Eng PM . In fact, one of the participants in the video, Dr. Plant, does not work for WPS...he is an independent consultant, and was the developer of the viscoelastic material (RHEON).
You can read an interview with Dr. Plant here:
http://www.imperial.ac.uk/mechanical-engineering/people/meet-our-alumni…
It looks like WPS is just applying and furthering the research RHEON prior to their work with WPS. You can actually find a papers on similar helmet designs on the RHEON website, published in 2016....meaning the actual development went on in 2014-2015. The same test apparatus shown in the video is seen in this paper. In fact, all of the "techno lab" scenes in the video are probably from RHEON's lab/facility in the UK.
Here is a link to the paper. It focuses on mitigating angular accelerations which can cause concussions, just like perpendicular impacts.
https://rheonlabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Ircobi_Helmets_RHEON-L…
Here is another one:
https://rheonlabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Modeling-Helmets-RHEON…
So it may be that Fly is the first major company to take this research, and put it into a mainstream product.
https://youtu.be/5wTcrpy-Ko8
https://www.leatt.com/product_uploads/ce_certificates/2018/Helmet%20GPX…
You're not protecting much anyways so i don't blame you for being a fucking idiot.
It's funny how many people argue that a mid price helmet can't be as safe as a high-end one. I see guys all the time at the track with high-end Shoeis and 6Ds that are beat to hell. Even if it were true that price point was a direct indicator of safety, what good is it to buy a top of the line helmet on a 72 month loan? I don't agree with the "buy the most expensive helmet you can afford" motto because for most, this will make them really try to eek out every last bit of life from it.
Pit Row
You’ve apparently been involved in controlled studies that included an entire range of helmets? Care to share results?
Thanks to #flyracing for their support and for producing a great product!
I don't want to say Flex and Mips is bad, it's really good actually- just not as good as the ODS technology from 6D. The Leatt *one is pretty similar to 6D but I'm not a fan of the big plastic vents.
The new fly helmet looks really suprising and what they said in the video makes a lot of sense. I don't quite understand how the rotational forces are reduced yet but I'm sure they'll release more info on this helmet.
On a side note, from my personal opinion it's still fishy that Fly releases no data. 6D has test data on their side, and it's the only side I know of- because I believe they are actually top of the line and have nothing to hide. If the Fly was that much better, why not release the data like 6D did? (Just showing other curves without saying which helmet it's actually from)
Anyway, I hope this innovation in safety gear keeps coming. Still waiting on that air bag vest from astars!
I wish Shoei would step it up some, as it fits my melon the best.
IMO the end of the peak needs to be level with the top edge of your goggles when your head is level.
Without actual data I certainly can’t comment on its capabilities. But nearly every design element is different so it certainly is not the same as what’s out there.
One design aspect I don’t understand is the visor. That is the same with most modern helmets. So many complain about vision, and then they design a visor, which used to be great at blocking roost, to now stick up out of the way. What’s the point of it? Just there for aesthetics now?
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