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I have seen some of the factory bikes running the old style tread pattern this year alone. I believe factory yamaha is one team running the older style pattern.
"facts" are the tire you buy and the tire they race - arent remotely the same
The tire each team races - while outwardly may have the same tread pattern (and some dont) - doesn't mean they are the same for each team
The new mx33 is a consumer friendlier tire. It lasts longer and arguably hasn't lost grip. A factory tire cares nothing about this - just grip
And yes I know they aren't the same as consumer... mainly rubber compound changes..
which is a taller tire than sold before and taller than most people run - and something they offer now to the consumer.
It's a lot like running the 18 inch tire - which was norm till mid 90's I think?
The rubber compound is a small tiny bit of the tire - the real change is the carcass flex (due to compound potentially) and what that does to grip.
Most factory tires are a stiffer carcass for SX - those guys are far faster than any consumer.
Again - what you "hear" or see is 99 percent marketing. And good on dunlop for their efforts and killer job at doing it. Dunlop OWN the US market - and NEED to for how much free effort/paid effort they give the teams.
This is why michelin has no desire to chase pro racing - the investment vs profit isn't worth it unless they acquired 90 percent market share.
My whole point is - anything the pro's do - has zero relation to what we buy. Their exhausts are different, their bikes are so far removed from what you or I own....their suspension is un relatable (in how stiff it is), their tires etc...the consumer needs to keep that in focus.
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Pirelli rear is out of this world good and the michelin front soft is awesome
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But I’ve been running the Hoosier MX20 compound rear and should have the mx25 compound front soon. The rear has worked better than anything I’ve ever used. I couldn’t be happier....
It definitely lasts far longer.
Pirelli and Michelin are better
I’d do like Michelin soft fronts and most Pirelli rears.
Pit Row
Was like cheating on a wet hard packed track compared to mx32.
We are going to try some Hoosiers for the futures races.
He said the rear was night and day better for him - no contest pirelli there.
But the front he couldn't come to terms with until he ran 15.5 psi - now he likes it more.
I'd suggest trying 14.5-15 and re evaluating ML - on the mid soft
The pirelli mx extra rear tire - is by far the most underated tire on the market. Grips excellently in all conditions and wears like iron - which is weird because the rubber is an ultra soft compound. When the track gets that slick shiny stuff - it's incredible.
So seventh to fourth this weekend and that’s off a tenth to third ride last week. Got to be a bit of anger for Tomac at this point. Some of the reason his charge to the front was stalled in Glendale was because his tire had basically gone away. Knobs missing, chunked out on the concrete-type of dirt out there. The tires they use are custom and for whatever reason, Eli’s didn’t hold up as well as the others.
Clearly that tire is just like what we can buy 23 minutes of racing and it's chunked
I am going to try a Hoosier rear to start this year on my 450, might even try one of these Pirellis that everyone is squawking about. I tried a Pirelli ten, or so, years ago and hated it...but times change.
Starcross soft front and mx extra are shit everyone
ML, do you know?
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