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11/8/2017 9:11 AM

Hats off ML512. Your attention to detail is astonishing when you write these Shoot-outs! I look forward to reading these reviews every time a new product comes out! I get customers who come in all the time and purchase items or bikes simply because they read what you had to write here on VITAL. It seems as of the last year or so the forum has gained a ton of stupid.. If that is correct way of putting it... Lots of the OG posters have stopped posting because of the dumb threads that are created! Kudos for keeping content well thought out!!

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11/8/2017 9:24 AM

And...

Fabio picture in 3, 2, 1...

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I ripped a start from Egypt and I was happy about that.

11/8/2017 10:07 AM

I couldn't agree more.

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11/8/2017 10:09 AM

He should do a shampoo and conditioner shoot-out next!

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11/8/2017 10:15 AM

mxbrian15 wrote:

He should do a shampoo and conditioner shoot-out next!

ha!! thats hilarious. Talking with Michael is so rad, he knows every little detail, he is a righteous dude.

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11/8/2017 10:16 AM

TeamGreen wrote:

And...

Fabio picture in 3, 2, 1...

i wish i was good at photoshop laughing

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11/8/2017 10:38 AM

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When you can test bikes and hair products at the same time! ML512,I'm pretty jealous!
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11/8/2017 10:41 AM
Edited Date/Time: 11/8/2017 10:42 AM

wait till you see the upcoming boot test


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11/8/2017 11:16 AM

^^^ LOL I guess Michael doesn't skip leg day.

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"Sorry Goose, but it's time to buzz the tower."

11/8/2017 11:20 AM

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The message posted above is most likely my opinion and shouldn't be taken as fact....

11/8/2017 12:12 PM

peelout wrote:

wait till you see the upcoming boot test


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Dying over here! laughing

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11/8/2017 12:25 PM

HAR!! that is gold laughing laughing laughing

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-OC
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11/8/2017 2:03 PM
Edited Date/Time: 11/8/2017 2:10 PM

huck wrote: Photo

C'mon, man...it's like you're not even trying. wink

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11/8/2017 2:12 PM
Edited Date/Time: 11/8/2017 2:13 PM

GuyB wrote:

C'mon, man...it's like you're not even trying. wink

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I was walking out the door to take the dogs to the Vet...It was a halfhearted attempt. wink Your picture looks like Dungey! lol

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The message posted above is most likely my opinion and shouldn't be taken as fact....

11/8/2017 2:27 PM

Sixeightone wrote:

Hats off ML512. Your attention to detail is astonishing when you write these Shoot-outs! I look forward to reading these reviews every time a new product comes out! I get customers who come in all the time and purchase items or bikes simply because they read what you had to write here on VITAL. It seems as of the last year or so the forum has gained a ton of stupid.. If that is correct way of putting it... Lots of the OG posters have stopped posting because of the dumb threads that are created! Kudos for keeping content well thought out!!

totally agree 100%

I see MXA took a dig at 250F shootouts happening so quickly after the CRF was released...

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Current rides: 2020 CRF450RWE and 2019 TC300
Occasional ride for VMX: 1985 CR500RF
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11/8/2017 2:51 PM

Sixeightone wrote:

Hats off ML512. Your attention to detail is astonishing when you write these Shoot-outs! I look forward to reading these reviews every time a new product comes out! I get customers who come in all the time and purchase items or bikes simply because they read what you had to write here on VITAL. It seems as of the last year or so the forum has gained a ton of stupid.. If that is correct way of putting it... Lots of the OG posters have stopped posting because of the dumb threads that are created! Kudos for keeping content well thought out!!

kiwifan wrote:

totally agree 100%

I see MXA took a dig at 250F shootouts happening so quickly after the CRF was released...

Where's that at?

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11/8/2017 3:04 PM

Sixeightone wrote:

Hats off ML512. Your attention to detail is astonishing when you write these Shoot-outs! I look forward to reading these reviews every time a new product comes out! I get customers who come in all the time and purchase items or bikes simply because they read what you had to write here on VITAL. It seems as of the last year or so the forum has gained a ton of stupid.. If that is correct way of putting it... Lots of the OG posters have stopped posting because of the dumb threads that are created! Kudos for keeping content well thought out!!

kiwifan wrote:

totally agree 100%

I see MXA took a dig at 250F shootouts happening so quickly after the CRF was released...

ML512 wrote:

Where's that at?

"The 2018 250F lineup from left to right: FC250, CRF250, RM-Z250, 250SXF, KX250F, YZ250F. Most of the bikes are basically the same for 2018, save for the KX250F with an updated engine and the all-new CRF250. The CRF250 has a lot of hype and has had good reviews thus far from other websites. We think it is cute that people rush to get there shootout results out first. Everyone, including us only got the CRF250 less than two-weeks ago. First off, how are you going to shake down an all-new bike in less than two-weeks. Then compare it against its competition? We might be last getting our shootout done, but we want to make sure we are thorough to give our readers the right information they need to make the right decision for them. "

or heres the link: https://motocrossactionmag.com/motcross-action-mid-week-report/

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1998 YZ250
2005 KX250F

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11/8/2017 3:32 PM

How the F are you gonna test different rear sprockets in 2weeks clowns?!

laughing

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11/8/2017 3:37 PM

mattyhamz2 wrote:

"The 2018 250F lineup from left to right: FC250, CRF250, RM-Z250, 250SXF, KX250F, YZ250F. Most of the bikes are basically the same for 2018, save for the KX250F with an updated engine and the all-new CRF250. The CRF250 has a lot of hype and has had good reviews thus far from other websites. We think it is cute that people rush to get there shootout results out first. Everyone, including us only got the CRF250 less than two-weeks ago. First off, how are you going to shake down an all-new bike in less than two-weeks. Then compare it against its competition? We might be last getting our shootout done, but we want to make sure we are thorough to give our readers the right information they need to make the right decision for them. "

or heres the link: https://motocrossactionmag.com/motcross-action-mid-week-report/

So. Many. Copy. Editing. Mistakes sad

I wonder if the green envy makes them blind, if there aren't any copy-editors, or if no one at MXA enjoys The Oatmeal...http://theoatmeal.com/comics/misspelling


Another good report ML512! Only hope that more analytics can be utilized in the future; LitPro data, clicker setting specifications per rider, onboard footage, etcetera.

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11/8/2017 3:49 PM

also hats off to ML for being a good sport about all the shenanigans going on with photo shop. lol

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11/8/2017 3:53 PM

rollin64caddy wrote:

also hats off to ML for being a good sport about all the shenanigans going on with photo shop. lol

x2 on this. He's been taking it like a champ! Props Michael.

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2017 RMZ450
2005 YZ250-sold :,(
1998 YZ250
2005 KX250F

80% of the time it works every time
IG @hamdaddyof2 & @2HRacing
Thanks to : Factory Effex, N2Dirt, Acerbis, DT1, Fasthouse, Matix, FMF, ASV, 100% & Mika Metals

11/8/2017 4:03 PM
Edited Date/Time: 11/8/2017 4:14 PM

ML512 wrote:

Where's that at?

mattyhamz2 wrote:

"The 2018 250F lineup from left to right: FC250, CRF250, RM-Z250, 250SXF, KX250F, YZ250F. Most of the bikes are basically the same for 2018, save for the KX250F with an updated engine and the all-new CRF250. The CRF250 has a lot of hype and has had good reviews thus far from other websites. We think it is cute that people rush to get there shootout results out first. Everyone, including us only got the CRF250 less than two-weeks ago. First off, how are you going to shake down an all-new bike in less than two-weeks. Then compare it against its competition? We might be last getting our shootout done, but we want to make sure we are thorough to give our readers the right information they need to make the right decision for them. "

or heres the link: https://motocrossactionmag.com/motcross-action-mid-week-report/

crc245 wrote:

So. Many. Copy. Editing. Mistakes sad

I wonder if the green envy makes them blind, if there aren't any copy-editors, or if no one at MXA enjoys The Oatmeal...http://theoatmeal.com/comics/misspelling


Another good report ML512! Only hope that more analytics can be utilized in the future; LitPro data, clicker setting specifications per rider, onboard footage, etcetera.

We tried something new with using LITPros on the bikes and riders to bring some consistency to the data but we ran into some issues...going to work with Chris Hay more on it and decide how we're going to get the riders to do this part correctly. The hard part is getting data that isn't skewed...the info we get now is useful to answer our own questions but isn't the best to display.

That's a big goal for 2018...

I'm most certainly not a grammar major, but I think this is more suitable.

"Here's the 2018 250F lineup from left to right: FC 250, CRF250R, RM-Z250, 250 SX-F, KX250F, YZ250F. The majority of bikes in this test are the same for 2018, save for the Kawasaki KX250F, which has updated engine components. Then there's the one all-new bike taking on the battle, Honda's long-awaited CRF250R, which features a completely new engine design and architecture. This new Honda has a ton of hype around it, which has led to some good feedback and reviews thus far from other media outlets. We think it's cute that people rush to get their shootout results out first but everyone, including us, received our 2018 model less that two weeks ago. First off, how are you going to shake down and all-new machine in less than two weeks...then compare it against the competition? We might be the last to get our Shootout done, but we want to make sure we're thorough enough to give our readers the correct information that they'll need to make the right purchasing decision."

Ohh and my response: Good luck riding REM for months on end; you might get it in print before we see the first sneak peeks of the '19s and the majority of your disappearing readership has already made their purchasing decisions. But that's just my opinion...

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11/8/2017 4:03 PM

rollin64caddy wrote:

also hats off to ML for being a good sport about all the shenanigans going on with photo shop. lol

mattyhamz2 wrote:

x2 on this. He's been taking it like a champ! Props Michael.

I posted them on my IG, they're damn funny!

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11/8/2017 4:12 PM

rollin64caddy wrote:

also hats off to ML for being a good sport about all the shenanigans going on with photo shop. lol

mattyhamz2 wrote:

x2 on this. He's been taking it like a champ! Props Michael.

ML512 wrote:

I posted them on my IG, they're damn funny!

I saw that. Glad you've got a good sense of humor!

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2017 RMZ450
2005 YZ250-sold :,(
1998 YZ250
2005 KX250F

80% of the time it works every time
IG @hamdaddyof2 & @2HRacing
Thanks to : Factory Effex, N2Dirt, Acerbis, DT1, Fasthouse, Matix, FMF, ASV, 100% & Mika Metals

11/8/2017 4:13 PM

Lmao to your response Michael!!:wink

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11/8/2017 4:16 PM

mattyhamz2 wrote:

"The 2018 250F lineup from left to right: FC250, CRF250, RM-Z250, 250SXF, KX250F, YZ250F. Most of the bikes are basically the same for 2018, save for the KX250F with an updated engine and the all-new CRF250. The CRF250 has a lot of hype and has had good reviews thus far from other websites. We think it is cute that people rush to get there shootout results out first. Everyone, including us only got the CRF250 less than two-weeks ago. First off, how are you going to shake down an all-new bike in less than two-weeks. Then compare it against its competition? We might be last getting our shootout done, but we want to make sure we are thorough to give our readers the right information they need to make the right decision for them. "

or heres the link: https://motocrossactionmag.com/motcross-action-mid-week-report/

crc245 wrote:

So. Many. Copy. Editing. Mistakes sad

I wonder if the green envy makes them blind, if there aren't any copy-editors, or if no one at MXA enjoys The Oatmeal...http://theoatmeal.com/comics/misspelling


Another good report ML512! Only hope that more analytics can be utilized in the future; LitPro data, clicker setting specifications per rider, onboard footage, etcetera.

ML512 wrote:

We tried something new with using LITPros on the bikes and riders to bring some consistency to the data but we ran into some issues...going to work with Chris Hay more on it and decide how we're going to get the riders to do this part correctly. The hard part is getting data that isn't skewed...the info we get now is useful to answer our own questions but isn't the best to display.

That's a big goal for 2018...

I'm most certainly not a grammar major, but I think this is more suitable.

"Here's the 2018 250F lineup from left to right: FC 250, CRF250R, RM-Z250, 250 SX-F, KX250F, YZ250F. The majority of bikes in this test are the same for 2018, save for the Kawasaki KX250F, which has updated engine components. Then there's the one all-new bike taking on the battle, Honda's long-awaited CRF250R, which features a completely new engine design and architecture. This new Honda has a ton of hype around it, which has led to some good feedback and reviews thus far from other media outlets. We think it's cute that people rush to get their shootout results out first but everyone, including us, received our 2018 model less that two weeks ago. First off, how are you going to shake down and all-new machine in less than two weeks...then compare it against the competition? We might be the last to get our Shootout done, but we want to make sure we're thorough enough to give our readers the correct information that they'll need to make the right purchasing decision."

Ohh and my response: Good luck riding REM for months on end; you might get it in print before we see the first sneak peeks of the '19s and the majority of your disappearing readership has already made their purchasing decisions. But that's just my opinion...

laughing laughing I've got a buddy that works for them and dirt bike mag, and he tells me how much he cant stand going to Glen Helen anymore. Some of the stuff from them isn't bad, but its like they don't ride anywhere other than Glen Helen! I want a review from guys that ride every track around So Cal.
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2017 RMZ450
2005 YZ250-sold :,(
1998 YZ250
2005 KX250F

80% of the time it works every time
IG @hamdaddyof2 & @2HRacing
Thanks to : Factory Effex, N2Dirt, Acerbis, DT1, Fasthouse, Matix, FMF, ASV, 100% & Mika Metals

11/8/2017 4:19 PM

mattyhamz2 wrote:

"The 2018 250F lineup from left to right: FC250, CRF250, RM-Z250, 250SXF, KX250F, YZ250F. Most of the bikes are basically the same for 2018, save for the KX250F with an updated engine and the all-new CRF250. The CRF250 has a lot of hype and has had good reviews thus far from other websites. We think it is cute that people rush to get there shootout results out first. Everyone, including us only got the CRF250 less than two-weeks ago. First off, how are you going to shake down an all-new bike in less than two-weeks. Then compare it against its competition? We might be last getting our shootout done, but we want to make sure we are thorough to give our readers the right information they need to make the right decision for them. "

or heres the link: https://motocrossactionmag.com/motcross-action-mid-week-report/

they're spelling its the worst? punctuation! run ons sentences!

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11/8/2017 4:30 PM

mattyhamz2 wrote: laughing laughing I've got a buddy that works for them and dirt bike mag, and he tells me how much he cant stand going to Glen Helen anymore. Some of the stuff from them isn't bad, but its like they don't ride anywhere other than Glen Helen! I want a review from guys that ride every track around So Cal.

Me and said "friend" talk about that regularly. He's there so much it's insane... laughing

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11/8/2017 4:35 PM

ML512 wrote:

We tried something new with using LITPros on the bikes and riders to bring some consistency to the data but we ran into some issues...going to work with Chris Hay more on it and decide how we're going to get the riders to do this part correctly. The hard part is getting data that isn't skewed...the info we get now is useful to answer our own questions but isn't the best to display.

That's a big goal for 2018...

I'm most certainly not a grammar major, but I think this is more suitable.

"Here's the 2018 250F lineup from left to right: FC 250, CRF250R, RM-Z250, 250 SX-F, KX250F, YZ250F. The majority of bikes in this test are the same for 2018, save for the Kawasaki KX250F, which has updated engine components. Then there's the one all-new bike taking on the battle, Honda's long-awaited CRF250R, which features a completely new engine design and architecture. This new Honda has a ton of hype around it, which has led to some good feedback and reviews thus far from other media outlets. We think it's cute that people rush to get their shootout results out first but everyone, including us, received our 2018 model less that two weeks ago. First off, how are you going to shake down and all-new machine in less than two weeks...then compare it against the competition? We might be the last to get our Shootout done, but we want to make sure we're thorough enough to give our readers the correct information that they'll need to make the right purchasing decision."

Ohh and my response: Good luck riding REM for months on end; you might get it in print before we see the first sneak peeks of the '19s and the majority of your disappearing readership has already made their purchasing decisions. But that's just my opinion...

mattyhamz2 wrote: laughing laughing I've got a buddy that works for them and dirt bike mag, and he tells me how much he cant stand going to Glen Helen anymore. Some of the stuff from them isn't bad, but its like they don't ride anywhere other than Glen Helen! I want a review from guys that ride every track around So Cal.

ML512 wrote:

Me and said "friend" talk about that regularly. He's there so much it's insane... laughing

I figured you knew who said friend was. lol. It's funny to hear about though

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2017 RMZ450
2005 YZ250-sold :,(
1998 YZ250
2005 KX250F

80% of the time it works every time
IG @hamdaddyof2 & @2HRacing
Thanks to : Factory Effex, N2Dirt, Acerbis, DT1, Fasthouse, Matix, FMF, ASV, 100% & Mika Metals

11/8/2017 4:36 PM

MXI. Motocross Inaction

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