Greg Albertyn on the Whiskey Throttle Show.

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Very good episode!

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Albee was my hero in the early-mid 1990's.

One of many great riders whose upward trajectory was curbed by a tough transition to America and unfortunate injuries.

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What happened to the 805 BEER sponsor? Beer goes well when interviewing moto gods
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2/20/2020 7:23am Edited Date/Time 2/20/2020 7:30am
Albee used to seriously Send-It..... like on a weekly basis... like on nearly a Magoo level... glad that guy walked away as well as he did from this sport....

Some ugly money talk at 2 hr 50... Damnnnn...
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BIGRIGGIN wrote:
What happened to the 805 BEER sponsor? Beer goes well when interviewing moto gods
Not sure. They were serving PBR when I went.
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Albee used to seriously Send-It..... like on a weekly basis... like on nearly a Magoo level... glad that guy walked away as well as he did...
Albee used to seriously Send-It..... like on a weekly basis... like on nearly a Magoo level... glad that guy walked away as well as he did from this sport....

Some ugly money talk at 2 hr 50... Damnnnn...
Listened to that part. Honestly. That was his mistake and many others did it too. Greed. He was raking in cash. You save a lot of it and only bet cash that you can lose. Doing that stuff is gambling. If you are betting everything you have and stuff you don’t have on something, then you can’t blame anyone but yourself.
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2/20/2020 11:02am Edited Date/Time 2/20/2020 11:03am
Philly215 wrote:
Listened to that part. Honestly. That was his mistake and many others did it too. Greed. He was raking in cash. You save a lot of...
Listened to that part. Honestly. That was his mistake and many others did it too. Greed. He was raking in cash. You save a lot of it and only bet cash that you can lose. Doing that stuff is gambling. If you are betting everything you have and stuff you don’t have on something, then you can’t blame anyone but yourself.
Did they say DeCoster lost cash too?? Can't image that phone call...... "Dear THE MAN, I have lost all the money you invested with me"......
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Philly215 wrote:
Listened to that part. Honestly. That was his mistake and many others did it too. Greed. He was raking in cash. You save a lot of...
Listened to that part. Honestly. That was his mistake and many others did it too. Greed. He was raking in cash. You save a lot of it and only bet cash that you can lose. Doing that stuff is gambling. If you are betting everything you have and stuff you don’t have on something, then you can’t blame anyone but yourself.
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Did they say DeCoster lost cash too?? Can't image that phone call...... "Dear THE MAN, I have lost all the money you invested with me"......
Right? I doubt decoster was mortgaging his house to gamble on something though.
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I haven’t listed to it yet. Wasn’t Albee involved Investing other peoples money after racing and it went bad or something, made a lot of guys broke? Not sure, maybe someone can clarify
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I haven’t listed to it yet. Wasn’t Albee involved Investing other peoples money after racing and it went bad or something, made a lot of guys...
I haven’t listed to it yet. Wasn’t Albee involved Investing other peoples money after racing and it went bad or something, made a lot of guys broke? Not sure, maybe someone can clarify
Yea that’s what we are talking about. He lost a bunch of Langston’s money. I mean everyone lost at that time in 08. But Albee was talking about how before that he was making millions with almost no work. Then the crash and he lost everything. Didn’t have a salary for 4 years and life sucked for 10 years.
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When I first heard about the money deal it sounded like he had basically stolen the money, but after listening that doesn't seem to be the case.

They call it real estate speculation for a reason, it's a gamble not a sure thing.
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I haven’t listed to it yet. Wasn’t Albee involved Investing other peoples money after racing and it went bad or something, made a lot of guys...
I haven’t listed to it yet. Wasn’t Albee involved Investing other peoples money after racing and it went bad or something, made a lot of guys broke? Not sure, maybe someone can clarify
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Yea that’s what we are talking about. He lost a bunch of Langston’s money. I mean everyone lost at that time in 08. But Albee was...
Yea that’s what we are talking about. He lost a bunch of Langston’s money. I mean everyone lost at that time in 08. But Albee was talking about how before that he was making millions with almost no work. Then the crash and he lost everything. Didn’t have a salary for 4 years and life sucked for 10 years.
Thanks, I'll have to give it a listen
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2/20/2020 12:46pm Edited Date/Time 2/20/2020 12:48pm
Funny thing, folks invest and lose with (insert brokerage firm of your choice here)----and it was "lost due to overall market contagion in 2008--you know, when EVERYBODY lost! "

Same folks invest in real estate with a friend and lose--and the friend "stole muh munny".... smh

Moral of the Story: Don't do business with friends.
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Philly215 wrote:
Listened to that part. Honestly. That was his mistake and many others did it too. Greed. He was raking in cash. You save a lot of...
Listened to that part. Honestly. That was his mistake and many others did it too. Greed. He was raking in cash. You save a lot of it and only bet cash that you can lose. Doing that stuff is gambling. If you are betting everything you have and stuff you don’t have on something, then you can’t blame anyone but yourself.
gt80rider wrote:
Did they say DeCoster lost cash too?? Can't image that phone call...... "Dear THE MAN, I have lost all the money you invested with me"......
Philly215 wrote:
Right? I doubt decoster was mortgaging his house to gamble on something though.
i remember decoster saying in previous years that he is still working because of his failed investments..
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gt80rider wrote:
Did they say DeCoster lost cash too?? Can't image that phone call...... "Dear THE MAN, I have lost all the money you invested with me"......
Philly215 wrote:
Right? I doubt decoster was mortgaging his house to gamble on something though.
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i remember decoster saying in previous years that he is still working because of his failed investments..
If you watched that Red Bull pre-season SX video that showed the KTM guys having dinner at Roger's house, it sure doesn't look like he needs the money to me. His house is freaking gorgeous.

Looking forward to listening to the show later today. Albee's heyday was while I was in the Navy, so I don't know a whole lot about him. I missed the majority of it due to deployments.
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That’s why I always think people believe that ex-pro riders who made a lot of money are all incredibly wealthy. They may or may not have invested well, and their current lifestyle doesn’t always reflect their financial depth.

Combine that with the general lack of advanced education, and I’d bet that most have been taken advantage of or invested poorly at a higher rate than the average person.
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Loved the show very interesting indeed, was a big fan of Greg back in the day and even bought the VHS tapes of the outdoors to follw his American adventures. Can't believe I've not watched any before, looking forward to the Doug henry one.

But one big gripe. Please for the love of God invest in proper desk microphones instead of those stupid head sets. Listening to you all breathe and lick your lips etc just winds me up so much. Reminds me of that one friend we all have that eats with their mouth open ! Grrrrr
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2/20/2020 8:25pm Edited Date/Time 2/20/2020 9:16pm
Cool episode... little bit of revisionist history on the 1994 season though.




Albee DNF'd 3 motos that year, Everts 5, including two in the opener, another later, and the two with the collarbone which clearly killed him the rest of the year thereafter... whilst Demaria crushed them both towards the end of the season.

I've argued before Everts doesn't win 10 with Albee and Tortelli staying home, and I believe that, but that didn't sound like a fair representation of the 94 season. 93 he did stomp them though.
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Great show. Albertyn’s a success story in every sense of the phrase. Great motocross career, followed by an even better story of more success, failure, perseverance and success again, in his life after motocross.

Great to hear Langston’s admiration for his countryman and Ping’s recollections of that time period. A lot of folks(me included) experienced investment struggles(Arizona for me too Ping) during that time. Certainly was an experience a lot of us homeowners/investors will never forget.

Keep up the great work gentlemen. Whiskey Throttle and you two are a true asset to the moto community. 👍
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Interesting what he said about the Kawi management wanting a back-handed to sign him. Can anyone throw any light on who/what/why??

Just goes to show, if you are corrupt, you’re never safe from the story being told one day.
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Crush wrote:
Cool episode... little bit of revisionist history on the 1994 season though. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/02/20/405780/s1200_Screen_Shot_2020_02_21_at_3.28.57_pm.jpg[/img] [img]http://mxgphistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/1994-250cc.png[/img] Albee DNF'd 3 motos that year, Everts 5, including two in the...
Cool episode... little bit of revisionist history on the 1994 season though.




Albee DNF'd 3 motos that year, Everts 5, including two in the opener, another later, and the two with the collarbone which clearly killed him the rest of the year thereafter... whilst Demaria crushed them both towards the end of the season.

I've argued before Everts doesn't win 10 with Albee and Tortelli staying home, and I believe that, but that didn't sound like a fair representation of the 94 season. 93 he did stomp them though.
Interesting to consider for sure. But there really is only one stat that matters... the name of the world champion at the end of the season. Each and every one is earned and deserved. Period.
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2/21/2020 12:06am Edited Date/Time 2/21/2020 12:07am
Crush wrote:
Cool episode... little bit of revisionist history on the 1994 season though. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/02/20/405780/s1200_Screen_Shot_2020_02_21_at_3.28.57_pm.jpg[/img] [img]http://mxgphistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/1994-250cc.png[/img] Albee DNF'd 3 motos that year, Everts 5, including two in the...
Cool episode... little bit of revisionist history on the 1994 season though.




Albee DNF'd 3 motos that year, Everts 5, including two in the opener, another later, and the two with the collarbone which clearly killed him the rest of the year thereafter... whilst Demaria crushed them both towards the end of the season.

I've argued before Everts doesn't win 10 with Albee and Tortelli staying home, and I believe that, but that didn't sound like a fair representation of the 94 season. 93 he did stomp them though.
Interesting to consider for sure. But there really is only one stat that matters... the name of the world champion at the end of the season...
Interesting to consider for sure. But there really is only one stat that matters... the name of the world champion at the end of the season. Each and every one is earned and deserved. Period.
Of course. Gate drops, gotta be in it, first to the flag, most points wins... like a lot in moto history tho, it’s a good what if season...

I’ve got both season reviews and have worn them out. It’s no contest 93 Albee was on the better bike and a better rider, it’s an amazing season to watch and cool tracks also.

94 you could argue it had flipped, but Stefan compared didn’t get the breaks except the bad ones.
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I always was an Albee fan. My first GP as a spectator was 1993 Finland. Albertyn struggled a bit in the first and second moto. But clinched the title in the second and then was miles faster than anyone in the third. I still remember that day vividly. Also the following year in the GP of Finland 1994 he clearly wasn't as fast.
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I’m about 2/3 through now. I can’t believe the guy raced a low HP 2-stroke at 185lbs. That’s insane.
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2/21/2020 4:07am Edited Date/Time 2/21/2020 7:50am
We used to love Greg Albertyn when he was racing. My riding buddy had a dog named Albee!

Glad to hear he’s doing well. I get annoyed by overly preachy people too, but Greg’s classy about it and not doesn’t over do it. I didn’t think twice about it. I enjoyed his story about his mother’s dream.

Great podcast! Thanks GL and Ping!

Also, Ping, is there somewhere we can find info on the music you play during the intro/outro’s?
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Crush wrote:
Cool episode... little bit of revisionist history on the 1994 season though. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/02/20/405780/s1200_Screen_Shot_2020_02_21_at_3.28.57_pm.jpg[/img] [img]http://mxgphistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/1994-250cc.png[/img] Albee DNF'd 3 motos that year, Everts 5, including two in the...
Cool episode... little bit of revisionist history on the 1994 season though.




Albee DNF'd 3 motos that year, Everts 5, including two in the opener, another later, and the two with the collarbone which clearly killed him the rest of the year thereafter... whilst Demaria crushed them both towards the end of the season.

I've argued before Everts doesn't win 10 with Albee and Tortelli staying home, and I believe that, but that didn't sound like a fair representation of the 94 season. 93 he did stomp them though.
Two DNFs with the collrbone (Rider error to crash)
One DNF in Ernee with busted radiator (Rider error to crash)

I can't remember the other two reasons at the season opener.

My point is, even if you say Everts would've won if he didn't DNF- well it was his fault he DNF'd, no-one else's.
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Two DNFs with the collrbone (Rider error to crash) One DNF in Ernee with busted radiator (Rider error to crash) I can't remember the other two...
Two DNFs with the collrbone (Rider error to crash)
One DNF in Ernee with busted radiator (Rider error to crash)

I can't remember the other two reasons at the season opener.

My point is, even if you say Everts would've won if he didn't DNF- well it was his fault he DNF'd, no-one else's.
Believe it was a motor and a broken wheel at the opener.

Was it rider error he crashed and did the radiator or collarbone? Did Albee also not crash throughout the year and have nothing happen? Hence... what if.

The reason I brought it up was the way Albee dismissed their DNFs as cancelling each other out. Stefan had two more and a hangover from an injury. Albee rightly should have walked the title given the circumstances from 2/3s of the way through the series.
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Crush wrote:
Cool episode... little bit of revisionist history on the 1994 season though. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/02/20/405780/s1200_Screen_Shot_2020_02_21_at_3.28.57_pm.jpg[/img] [img]http://mxgphistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/1994-250cc.png[/img] Albee DNF'd 3 motos that year, Everts 5, including two in the...
Cool episode... little bit of revisionist history on the 1994 season though.




Albee DNF'd 3 motos that year, Everts 5, including two in the opener, another later, and the two with the collarbone which clearly killed him the rest of the year thereafter... whilst Demaria crushed them both towards the end of the season.

I've argued before Everts doesn't win 10 with Albee and Tortelli staying home, and I believe that, but that didn't sound like a fair representation of the 94 season. 93 he did stomp them though.
Crush, I didn’t remember Demaria being so strong that year. His DNF’s surely cost him that title. He’s got to be one of the best to never win a title.
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More what ifs!

I can't remember his next couple years but it seemed at the end of 94 you'd think he's next. He didn't start great but he was a beast later on – obviously particularly on the hardpack.

His 94 MXdN first moto was also scaldingly fast.
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Crush, I didn’t remember Demaria being so strong that year. His DNF’s surely cost him that title. He’s got to be one of the best to...
Crush, I didn’t remember Demaria being so strong that year. His DNF’s surely cost him that title. He’s got to be one of the best to never win a title.
He's got 3 MX3 world championship, actually. 2004, 2006, 2007. And he won the MXdN en 2001. When Demaria was on, nobody could touch him.
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