Good news -- finally -- for Cade Clason

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6/27/2019 7:54am Edited Date/Time 6/28/2019 1:21pm
Apparently his FIM suspension from the failed drug test in 2017 has now expired and Cade is allowed to apply for a license and participate in any series. Finally.

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6/27/2019 7:55am
We're pretty much claiming him as Canadian now.
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6/27/2019 8:00am
How does that work since he kept racing in Canada?
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6/27/2019 8:01am
When is the agreement with WADA going to expire?
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6/27/2019 8:02am
I was under the impression that him racing in Canada would extend his ban. Did the FIM throw in the towel because they massively screw up everything to do with failed drug tests?
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6/27/2019 8:18am
Just to keep this straight

Stewart : Suspended : But given a TUE for what he was suspended for .

Clason : Suspended: But continued to Race and Suspension just expired .

Tickle : Suspended : Gets to come back after round 7 next year

Craig : Could be suspended but maybe not Has been kept on the secret hush hush program.
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6/27/2019 8:22am
slipdog wrote:
How does that work since he kept racing in Canada?
Same question..

This answered a question but raised another. They had said all along racing would extend the penalty...
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6/27/2019 8:23am
Casting wrote:
Same question..

This answered a question but raised another. They had said all along racing would extend the penalty...
Who said that? Some dude on the internet?
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6/27/2019 8:24am
Damn broc is going to be pissed. He couldnt race without extending his suspension but clade got off easy.
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6/27/2019 8:31am
DC I know you have to be PC and may choose to skip over this and I understand, but honestly, what has to happen to either remove WADA from the US Supercross and Motocross series or have them be a secondary option and make all US racing go through USADA?

It seems to me that having a state side organization as the primary testing and punishment authority makes the most sense as the athletes are in the same country and things can be handled much more efficiently.
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6/27/2019 8:31am
Great news for Cade.
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6/27/2019 9:04am Edited Date/Time 6/27/2019 9:05am
early wrote:
Who said that? Some dude on the internet?
MX Media which I consider more reliable than some random dude on the internet, but if that is how you view it so be it.
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6/27/2019 9:16am
Same question as others and first thing that came to mind after reading the news. FIM apparently made it clear to Tickle that if he chose to race in a non-FIM sanctioned series(i.e. Canada) that his suspension period would effectively reset/restart from date of last race...

At this point i don’t see how any rational being could argue FIM/WADA isn’t just making things up as they go...
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6/27/2019 9:20am Edited Date/Time 6/27/2019 9:21am
I used to ride 250 novice and get beat up by Neil Goldman, but now that I take PED's, I'm qualifying for 450 SX mains and smashing strange every night. #PEDLYF4EVR
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kb228 wrote:
Damn broc is going to be pissed. He couldnt race without extending his suspension but clade got off easy.
Big difference if you look at the big picture.of both cases.
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6/27/2019 10:03am
Good for Cade.

Such a bizarre process with no actual "suspension" and just the phantom "provisional suspension." It's like someone saw the stalled paperwork and woke up today and was like "yeah, that's not good, let it go."
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6/27/2019 10:07am
byke wrote:
I used to ride 250 novice and get beat up by Neil Goldman, but now that I take PED's, I'm qualifying for 450 SX mains and...
I used to ride 250 novice and get beat up by Neil Goldman, but now that I take PED's, I'm qualifying for 450 SX mains and smashing strange every night. #PEDLYF4EVR
Strnage is the best word to ever come out to describe a random. LOL
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6/27/2019 10:11am Edited Date/Time 6/27/2019 10:11am
BigDaddyG wrote:
DC I know you have to be PC and may choose to skip over this and I understand, but honestly, what has to happen to either...
DC I know you have to be PC and may choose to skip over this and I understand, but honestly, what has to happen to either remove WADA from the US Supercross and Motocross series or have them be a secondary option and make all US racing go through USADA?

It seems to me that having a state side organization as the primary testing and punishment authority makes the most sense as the athletes are in the same country and things can be handled much more efficiently.
USADA is under WADA. So if MX Sports used USADA they would still be subject to WADA rullings as I understand it.

The problem is that drug testing is expensive and complicated so to try to do it in house would be too costly. It is not like a pregancy test where it is positive and done deal. Positive drugs tests are held to a much higher standard and it is why you hear about athletes getting off with ridiculous reasons (see Contador and Armstrong and their positive tests for PED's).

The two big problems with WADA is that they folllow a 4 year olympic cycle that is not good for MX. But MX is small potatos so they dont really care how a suspension effects a riders season (i.e. being able to start racing at the start of a season versus middle of a season and how that effects a riders chance of getting sponsored). This combined with poor communication with the athletes is a bad mix.
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6/27/2019 10:16am
All these promoters and orgs is one big buddy club and it's not going to change. A couple Genova's could start something new and bury these lame-o's in five years.
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OR Racer46 wrote:
Just to keep this straight Stewart : Suspended : But given a TUE for what he was suspended for . Clason : Suspended: But continued to...
Just to keep this straight

Stewart : Suspended : But given a TUE for what he was suspended for .

Clason : Suspended: But continued to Race and Suspension just expired .

Tickle : Suspended : Gets to come back after round 7 next year

Craig : Could be suspended but maybe not Has been kept on the secret hush hush program.
WTF absolutely zero consistency - the people in charge of the sport should be ashamed.
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6/27/2019 10:35am
Good for Cade. Broc should head north for the rest of the summer.
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6/27/2019 10:52am
DC wrote:
Apparently his FIM suspension from the failed drug test in 2017 has now expired and Cade is allowed to apply for a license and participate in...
Apparently his FIM suspension from the failed drug test in 2017 has now expired and Cade is allowed to apply for a license and participate in any series. Finally.

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DC it’s also time for the FIM and Wada to be banished from American motocross. Their draconian ways should no longer be tolerated
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This makes as much sense as WADA/USADA penalties
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6/27/2019 11:21am
Casting wrote:
MX Media which I consider more reliable than some random dude on the internet, but if that is how you view it so be it.
If I was a racer, a journalist, or Joe blow on the internet (who I am) I would only believe what I have in certified correspondence with the FIM or WADA. I wouldn't even believe what the told me face to face.
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6/27/2019 11:25am
BigDaddyG wrote:
DC I know you have to be PC and may choose to skip over this and I understand, but honestly, what has to happen to either...
DC I know you have to be PC and may choose to skip over this and I understand, but honestly, what has to happen to either remove WADA from the US Supercross and Motocross series or have them be a secondary option and make all US racing go through USADA?

It seems to me that having a state side organization as the primary testing and punishment authority makes the most sense as the athletes are in the same country and things can be handled much more efficiently.
I have been very vocal in my belief that we need to get SX and MX together under a domestic program like USADA (which MX already uses) so athletes can have their cases litigated in the U.S. and not on the other side of the world. I would like to see the AMA step up and take over the drug-testing process from the FIM, which have proven time and again to not be able to navigate this in a timely or consistent manner. Hopefully that happens sooner than later, but I don't really have a vote in what happens with SX...

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6/27/2019 11:26am
Wasn't Cade suspended BEFORE Tickle? but Tickle got his notice to return to racing before Cade?
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6/27/2019 11:32am
byke wrote:
All these promoters and orgs is one big buddy club and it's not going to change. A couple Genova's could start something new and bury these...
All these promoters and orgs is one big buddy club and it's not going to change. A couple Genova's could start something new and bury these lame-o's in five years.
You couldn't be further from the truth.

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Wasn't Cade suspended BEFORE Tickle? but Tickle got his notice to return to racing before Cade?
Tickle isn’t allowed to race until February 2020, sounds like Clason is good to go now.

Good to hear, likeable guy, served his penalty and then some, hope he can return to making SX mains again but it won’t be easy
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6/27/2019 11:37am
byke wrote:
All these promoters and orgs is one big buddy club and it's not going to change. A couple Genova's could start something new and bury these...
All these promoters and orgs is one big buddy club and it's not going to change. A couple Genova's could start something new and bury these lame-o's in five years.
DC wrote:
You couldn't be further from the truth.

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If you would, please take me through the chain which requires WADA to be involved in our indoor/outdoor series.

Also, what's in place that would make it such that the sport isn't allowed to exist without them?
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6/27/2019 11:43am
Glad he can come back and take a main event spot away from ARay
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6/27/2019 11:46am
byke wrote:
All these promoters and orgs is one big buddy club and it's not going to change. A couple Genova's could start something new and bury these...
All these promoters and orgs is one big buddy club and it's not going to change. A couple Genova's could start something new and bury these lame-o's in five years.
DC wrote:
You couldn't be further from the truth.

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byke wrote:
If you would, please take me through the chain which requires WADA to be involved in our indoor/outdoor series. Also, what's in place that would make...
If you would, please take me through the chain which requires WADA to be involved in our indoor/outdoor series.

Also, what's in place that would make it such that the sport isn't allowed to exist without them?
MX Sports works with USADA on our anti-doping program. The FIM works with WADA on the one for supercross. The only thing we have in common is that USADA is bound to follow any ruling or penalty that WADA issues, and vice-versa. For U.S.-based athletes USADA is a much more efficient and easier-to-navigate anti-doping agency, as we've seen in all of these cases involving SX riders who have failed tests...

Not sure which lame-o's a couple of Genova's could bury in five years, he doesn't race outdoors.

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