Good mud riders and who to watch for?

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Edited Date/Time 5/19/2019 8:10pm
Having a hard time making pre-picks for this weekend..

So far, I've based my picks around ex GP guys like Dylan, Zacho, Dean Ferris.. But who else are you guys expecting to run good in the mud? East and midwest guys?

Also, if the schedule is shortened, what do they typically change? A quali, and a LCQ?
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Unadilla was a mudder last year. Might want to check those results to help you out.
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BroFoSho 5/17/2019 10:18am
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BARCIA


Also, Decotis is not racing outdoors
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crowe176 5/17/2019 10:23am
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BroFoSho wrote:
BARCIA


Also, Decotis is not racing outdoors
NOOOOOOOO

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crowe176 5/17/2019 10:26am
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
Unadilla was a mudder last year. Might want to check those results to help you out.
Perfect. Didn't even think of that, which explains why I suck at this.. Thanks!
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Stoop 5/17/2019 1:13pm
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Todd Waters, killed it in the mud a few weeks ago at the Aus nats went from first turn crash to win
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SWOHIO GUY 5/17/2019 3:14pm
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I think everyone seems to forget that Eli is pretty freaking good in the mud too.
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tp4 5/17/2019 3:34pm
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SWOHIO GUY wrote:
I think everyone seems to forget that Eli is pretty freaking good in the mud too.
he wasn't at red bud
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Ranman68 5/17/2019 3:42pm
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Just because we had disappointing results at a muddy mxon doesn't mean we suck in mud. No matter what Europeans will be on the gate, Tomac is still very capable of winning by a friggin mile. Webb is damn good in mud. Barcia is too. On 250s, there are a couple of riders straight from the GPs that I can see doing extra well at a muddy Hangtown vs a dry Hangtown.
450s 1. Tomac. 2. Webb 3. Barcia
250s 1. Lawrence 2. Ferrandis 3. Covington

250 picks would be completely different if it were dry.
450 picks would have Osborn 3rd if it were dry
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SWOHIO GUY 5/17/2019 6:46pm
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SWOHIO GUY wrote:
I think everyone seems to forget that Eli is pretty freaking good in the mud too.
tp4 wrote:
he wasn't at red bud
He was still the best US based rider ?‍♂️
Dirty Points 5/17/2019 6:52pm
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SWOHIO GUY wrote:
I think everyone seems to forget that Eli is pretty freaking good in the mud too.
tp4 wrote:
he wasn't at red bud
SWOHIO GUY wrote:
He was still the best US based rider ?‍♂️
Yup. Nearly lapped (mud specialist) Plessinger as well as both Barcia and Roczen
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Ranman68 5/17/2019 7:27pm
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SWOHIO GUY wrote:
I think everyone seems to forget that Eli is pretty freaking good in the mud too.
tp4 wrote:
he wasn't at red bud
Bullshit if he wasn't. Look at his gate picks and position in the first turn in both motos. He finished 4th and 5th coming through a shit ton of riders both motos. No, he wasn't as fast as Herlings in that shit, but he was still fast and passed a lot of riders in both motos and was always moving forward. He didn't get the best gate picks like Coldenhoff. He had the worst of the worst. Tomac actually rode well at the mxon and was still not his normal speed. Had he ridden his dialed in 18' bike I'm sure he would've been better. Given his SHIT gate picks and where he started both motos, coming through a field of Europeans to a 4th and a 5th is not bad at all. When he had periods of open track in front of him, he laid down some pretty damn good lap times.
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Ranman68 5/17/2019 7:32pm
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I wouldn't pick Covington for a top 5-7, but since this is a mudder and he's fresh from a lot of time in the GPs, I think a 3rd could happen if he gets a decent start. I can see Lawrence winning with Ferrandis 2nd in these conditions.
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fullysicmate 5/17/2019 7:35pm
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Stoop wrote:
Todd Waters, killed it in the mud a few weeks ago at the Aus nats went from first turn crash to win
Would be unreal to see him on the podium.
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crowe176 5/17/2019 7:55pm
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Stoop wrote:
Todd Waters, killed it in the mud a few weeks ago at the Aus nats went from first turn crash to win
fullysicmate wrote:
Would be unreal to see him on the podium.
I listened to the Gypsy Tales with Todd a while back, and I'm pulling for the kid.. He sounds like a good kid and I Hope he twists it!
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crowe176 5/17/2019 7:57pm
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Stoop wrote:
Todd Waters, killed it in the mud a few weeks ago at the Aus nats went from first turn crash to win
fullysicmate wrote:
Would be unreal to see him on the podium.
crowe176 wrote:
I listened to the Gypsy Tales with Todd a while back, and I'm pulling for the kid.. He sounds like a good kid and I Hope...
I listened to the Gypsy Tales with Todd a while back, and I'm pulling for the kid.. He sounds like a good kid and I Hope he twists it!
Also, Dean Ferris was one of the best listens in a while. Dude's a humble beast!
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kpiper 5/17/2019 9:18pm
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SWOHIO GUY wrote:
I think everyone seems to forget that Eli is pretty freaking good in the mud too.
tp4 wrote:
he wasn't at red bud
He beat Roczen there and Barcia.
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RandyS 5/17/2019 9:55pm
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JS7 is good in the mud, haven't heard if hes racing yet. Any news?
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Patrick461 5/18/2019 10:36am
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Roczen. Uh hello. He’s s an x gp racer champion and 2x mx champ.
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RichardLoots 5/19/2019 12:29am
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Ranman68 wrote:
I wouldn't pick Covington for a top 5-7, but since this is a mudder and he's fresh from a lot of time in the GPs, I...
I wouldn't pick Covington for a top 5-7, but since this is a mudder and he's fresh from a lot of time in the GPs, I think a 3rd could happen if he gets a decent start. I can see Lawrence winning with Ferrandis 2nd in these conditions.
euro's much better in mud excuse has left the building or what ?

its a bs excuse , last night showed it once again
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cable 5/19/2019 7:47pm
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SWOHIO GUY wrote:
I think everyone seems to forget that Eli is pretty freaking good in the mud too.
tp4 wrote:
he wasn't at red bud
1st place on dunlops..
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TbonesPop 5/19/2019 7:54pm
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SWOHIO GUY wrote:
I think everyone seems to forget that Eli is pretty freaking good in the mud too.
tp4 wrote:
he wasn't at red bud
That new bike he rode that weekend didn't help him at all. Not saying he would have won or anything, but that 2019 new Kawi took a while to get right by him.
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Flip109 5/19/2019 8:09pm
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Am I the only one watching the 450 national motos Saturday thinking Jerklings would have made a complete mockery of this class in that stuff? Lol
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