Glen Helen 2020?

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Edited Date/Time 10/18/2019 5:21pm
Come on guys, make this happen please.
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SoCalMX70 10/16/2019 9:01pm
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Schedule was already announced. Pretty sure contract is 3(?) years for Pala. So maybe 2022...
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OW38B 10/16/2019 9:13pm
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Pala again? Could be worse......Elsinore.
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gnarwhip 10/16/2019 9:17pm
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So they’re actually doing the Florida national again? Lol ok.
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gnarwhip 10/16/2019 9:56pm
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Here’s a wild idea; have Pala AND Glen Helen. There are tens of millions of people within driving distance.
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mikec265 10/16/2019 10:04pm
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gnarwhip wrote:
Here’s a wild idea; have Pala AND Glen Helen. There are tens of millions of people within driving distance.
CA can't handle all of the pollution from an additional event. Just bring Steel City back somehow.
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Johnny Ringo 10/16/2019 11:20pm
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California doesn’t need 1/4 of the races. There’s a big bright world out there
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gnarwhip wrote:
Here’s a wild idea; have Pala AND Glen Helen. There are tens of millions of people within driving distance.
How many of those people are realistically going to go to 3 SX races and 2 nationals though? I know the hardcore fans would but I bet a lot wouldn’t
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Pala is a joke of an American motocross track. When Americans make fun of MXGP tracks in Indonesia... that is what Pala looks like to me... a joke of a track not fit for the prestige of a professional race on any circuit.

WW in Florida seemed fine to me - the element of heat is an interesting factor for riders to navigate.

Like someone else said above... BRING BACK STEEL CITY!!! Though from everything I've seen locally that track has faded away and would take some serious reconstruction to return to race shape... /tear no, no I'm not crying, just got splashed in the face with water..
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soggy 10/17/2019 5:55am
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Pala is fine,it isnt GH but its ok, and light years ahead of those dumb MXGP pop up tracks. (GP does have some badass tracks though.)
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AH387 10/17/2019 6:05am
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The attendance at Pala was like half of what it was at GH, the year prior.
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JWalkowiak951 10/17/2019 6:24am
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AH387 wrote:
The attendance at Pala was like half of what it was at GH, the year prior.
Maybe because GH decided hold a ride day in spite of them not getting the national. I don’t know the politics behind why GH isn’t on the schedule anymore. I love watching the pro series don’t get me wrong. But if I had to choose between riding my bike or watching someone else ride theirs....I’m choosing to ride mine.
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BAMX 10/17/2019 6:30am
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AH387 wrote:
The attendance at Pala was like half of what it was at GH, the year prior.
JWalkowiak951 wrote:
Maybe because GH decided hold a ride day in spite of them not getting the national. I don’t know the politics behind why GH isn’t on...
Maybe because GH decided hold a ride day in spite of them not getting the national. I don’t know the politics behind why GH isn’t on the schedule anymore. I love watching the pro series don’t get me wrong. But if I had to choose between riding my bike or watching someone else ride theirs....I’m choosing to ride mine.
If a ride day killed half the attendance, then something else is broken. My guess is that it was a combo of what I consider a pretty average track for a national and a lot of people remembering the horrific traffic jam of years past.
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JWalkowiak951 10/17/2019 6:39am
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If a ride day killed half the attendance, then something else is broken. My guess is that it was a combo of what I consider a...
If a ride day killed half the attendance, then something else is broken. My guess is that it was a combo of what I consider a pretty average track for a national and a lot of people remembering the horrific traffic jam of years past.
I’m not from Cal so I have no clue about the traffic issue. From the way it seemed on tv I thought Pala was okay. The one single they were airing out to flat was pretty huge. I also think like mentioned above that besides the die hard fans who is gonna pay to go to 3 supercross and 2 motocross events.
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AH387 10/17/2019 7:02am
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There is always politics behind that type of stuff. Ride day or not, Pala has never been great as far as attendance, merch etc. It's just fact. GH is decent but it's up to the promoters to make it work/fair. I'd like to see it back on the schedule but we all know there seems to always be friction with that relationship.
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Mr. Info 10/17/2019 7:20am
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It’s just a smaller version of Washington and the budget
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offroad949 10/17/2019 7:21am
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AH387 wrote:
The attendance at Pala was like half of what it was at GH, the year prior.
JWalkowiak951 wrote:
Maybe because GH decided hold a ride day in spite of them not getting the national. I don’t know the politics behind why GH isn’t on...
Maybe because GH decided hold a ride day in spite of them not getting the national. I don’t know the politics behind why GH isn’t on the schedule anymore. I love watching the pro series don’t get me wrong. But if I had to choose between riding my bike or watching someone else ride theirs....I’m choosing to ride mine.
Thats not the case at all. Nobody wants to go to Pala. Even when they had it prior it was terrible for watching. Honestly, Pala is one of the best tracks to RIDE in southern ca, its a great track to hold amateur races, but it is not a place for Pro Motocross. 40 Dudes on that track is like watching RC cars race. Track is tight, its pretty one lined, it gets pretty hard packed and the guys probably use 5th a lot. GH is a technical track, it gets really rough, square edges, its big, a combination of dirt, jumps ehh... they could do better on not making Supercross lips for some of them but that can be easily fixed. But its a show, you can literally watch the racing from all parts of the track and feel like you can see it all. It may not be the cleanest spot but its a true national track. I wish they'd separate their differences and race at GH again.
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FuzzyLogic 10/17/2019 8:23am
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I thought Pala was pretty cool this year. If I'm remembering right it produced 1 (maybe 2) of the closest finishes of the nationals this year.
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500guy 10/17/2019 8:24am
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Thats not the case at all. Nobody wants to go to Pala. Even when they had it prior it was terrible for watching. Honestly, Pala is...
Thats not the case at all. Nobody wants to go to Pala. Even when they had it prior it was terrible for watching. Honestly, Pala is one of the best tracks to RIDE in southern ca, its a great track to hold amateur races, but it is not a place for Pro Motocross. 40 Dudes on that track is like watching RC cars race. Track is tight, its pretty one lined, it gets pretty hard packed and the guys probably use 5th a lot. GH is a technical track, it gets really rough, square edges, its big, a combination of dirt, jumps ehh... they could do better on not making Supercross lips for some of them but that can be easily fixed. But its a show, you can literally watch the racing from all parts of the track and feel like you can see it all. It may not be the cleanest spot but its a true national track. I wish they'd separate their differences and race at GH again.
it doesn't matter, GH doesn't seem to get along with MXsports.

It's a business and the 2 parties can't seem to come to terms, The relationship is over for the time being.

I love how people are already complaining about some race that is 7 months from now.
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aeffertz 10/17/2019 8:56am
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gnarwhip wrote:
So they’re actually doing the Florida national again? Lol ok.
The Florida track was great, what do you mean?
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gnarwhip 10/17/2019 8:02pm
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gnarwhip wrote:
So they’re actually doing the Florida national again? Lol ok.
aeffertz wrote:
The Florida track was great, what do you mean?
I was talking about the terrible humidity that comes with running a race in FL during the summer. It knocked out Sexton for several weeks (who was a title contender) due to heat exhaustion, and other guys who I can’t remember. Seems unsafe for riders, should replace that round with GH in my opinion, but that’s just me.
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BUTWHY? 10/18/2019 12:04am
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I hope GH doesn’t try to host a free ride day again. I get this a very political sport but that was just plain greasy.
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JustMX 10/18/2019 6:57am
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Never been to either gh or Pala, but from watching on tv, can't really say one was much better than the other.

The last national gh had was dusty and slick looking, and they seem to have gotten a little carried,away with huge jumps instead of relying on the one thing that seems to really set them apart, elevation.

Meanwhile you folks out there whine about this and whine about that.

I would suggest you support what you have and hope they improve or you will end up with something like lake Elsinore again.
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Mr. Info 10/18/2019 8:02am
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You really think a ride day takes people away from attending a National? If someone doesn’t want to go they won’t go. Should we close Disneyland, Knotts Berry Farm or Magic Mountain. I bet some riders went there and the movies as well.
All it was, was an option and money went to Charity. Get over it.
I think the track is already booking events for next year so who knows.
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Travis_Hudson 10/18/2019 8:27am
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I think somewhere in Oklahoma, Arkansas, or Tenn. needs a national. Middle america needs to have something.
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500guy 10/18/2019 8:34am
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Mr. Info wrote:
You really think a ride day takes people away from attending a National? If someone doesn’t want to go they won’t go. Should we close Disneyland...
You really think a ride day takes people away from attending a National? If someone doesn’t want to go they won’t go. Should we close Disneyland, Knotts Berry Farm or Magic Mountain. I bet some riders went there and the movies as well.
All it was, was an option and money went to Charity. Get over it.
I think the track is already booking events for next year so who knows.
How much went to charity?
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dickjackson170 10/18/2019 8:40am
10/18/2019 8:40am
gnarwhip wrote:
Here’s a wild idea; have Pala AND Glen Helen. There are tens of millions of people within driving distance.
RG1 wrote:
How many of those people are realistically going to go to 3 SX races and 2 nationals though? I know the hardcore fans would but I...
How many of those people are realistically going to go to 3 SX races and 2 nationals though? I know the hardcore fans would but I bet a lot wouldn’t
Judging by TV, 70% crowd at SX#1, 40% crowd at SX#2 and 25% at SX#3. Yeah. More Cali races seem like a great business plan.
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BobbyM 10/18/2019 8:40am
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Mr. Info wrote:
You really think a ride day takes people away from attending a National? If someone doesn’t want to go they won’t go. Should we close Disneyland...
You really think a ride day takes people away from attending a National? If someone doesn’t want to go they won’t go. Should we close Disneyland, Knotts Berry Farm or Magic Mountain. I bet some riders went there and the movies as well.
All it was, was an option and money went to Charity. Get over it.
I think the track is already booking events for next year so who knows.
500guy wrote:
How much went to charity?
Should have spent it on meeting the criteria for holding a nat.
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There are some grown ass babies posting in this thread.

Too humid for pro riders. LOL.
There should be more California rounds. LOL.

I liked the racing action from Pala this year, and I have liked the racing action at Glen Helen in the past. Glen Helen is more recognizable on TV, but that doesnt give anyone an excuse to be a primadonna.
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Johnson183 10/18/2019 10:04am
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Mr. Info wrote:
You really think a ride day takes people away from attending a National? If someone doesn’t want to go they won’t go. Should we close Disneyland...
You really think a ride day takes people away from attending a National? If someone doesn’t want to go they won’t go. Should we close Disneyland, Knotts Berry Farm or Magic Mountain. I bet some riders went there and the movies as well.
All it was, was an option and money went to Charity. Get over it.
I think the track is already booking events for next year so who knows.
500guy wrote:
How much went to charity?
Every penny. I think it ended up at $10,000, with a little help from Glen Helen as well.
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