GasGas vs KTM

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10/21/2020 8:58 AM

So...with all the talk (and probably truth) about GasGas simply being a KTM with red plastic, are there any real differences between the two bikes? I ask because, from what I've been told, the KTM and Husqvarna are different enough that a lot of parts/pieces are not interchangeable.

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10/21/2020 9:04 AM

orange bike, white swingarm, red plastics?

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10/21/2020 9:08 AM

Different plastics, wheels and no mapping switch. Thats about the only differences.

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10/21/2020 12:25 PM

Different bar clamps, as well. Basically trying to build a bike that costs less than KTM..but its only gonna be around a $900 difference.

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10/21/2020 12:33 PM

el manual de gasgas solo viene en español también

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Mantis Toboggan, M.D

10/21/2020 1:03 PM

Different hydraulic cluth, brakes and triple clamps

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10/21/2020 1:34 PM

I think the red 250s and orange 250s will be very similar to each other by the time they hit the track.

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10/21/2020 2:01 PM

vansnxtweek489 wrote:

Different bar clamps, as well. Basically trying to build a bike that costs less than KTM..but its only gonna be around a $900 difference.

Only?

Thats quite a bit really, hell thats a years tire budget, a good stock of spare parts, a few bolt ons to customize etc. etc.

The market is begging for bikes that don't cost $10k-$12k. I'm all for manufacturers making moves to lessen the costs of new bikes. We don't all need something ready to go race a SX.

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10/21/2020 2:27 PM

vansnxtweek489 wrote:

Different bar clamps, as well. Basically trying to build a bike that costs less than KTM..but its only gonna be around a $900 difference.

LungButter wrote:

Only?

Thats quite a bit really, hell thats a years tire budget, a good stock of spare parts, a few bolt ons to customize etc. etc.

The market is begging for bikes that don't cost $10k-$12k. I'm all for manufacturers making moves to lessen the costs of new bikes. We don't all need something ready to go race a SX.

Here's the actual pricing...from another thread...

"Here in the US they're $800 less (MC450F: $9,399 v. 450 SX-F: $10,199)"

As you've pointed out: that's a years worth of tires and stuff.

The bike that I think is THE deal at GasGas is the 125. It's retail price is $200 more than the YZ ($6799 v $6599).

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10/21/2020 3:26 PM

vansnxtweek489 wrote:

Different bar clamps, as well. Basically trying to build a bike that costs less than KTM..but its only gonna be around a $900 difference.

LungButter wrote:

Only?

Thats quite a bit really, hell thats a years tire budget, a good stock of spare parts, a few bolt ons to customize etc. etc.

The market is begging for bikes that don't cost $10k-$12k. I'm all for manufacturers making moves to lessen the costs of new bikes. We don't all need something ready to go race a SX.

TeamGreen wrote:

Here's the actual pricing...from another thread...

"Here in the US they're $800 less (MC450F: $9,399 v. 450 SX-F: $10,199)"

As you've pointed out: that's a years worth of tires and stuff.

The bike that I think is THE deal at GasGas is the 125. It's retail price is $200 more than the YZ ($6799 v $6599).

I noticed the $200 dif a few days ago and was like dammmmnnn, thats an easy decision for a Yamaha diehard like myself even. But, money talks (no more demo bikes for me) i was tempted to go yellow with the price of the rmz450s and now can get killer deals on kx250s..my blue-crew days are limited thats forsure.

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10/21/2020 4:40 PM

Triple clamps didn’t get the extra machining step on the outside. They look a little more Japanese in finish than the ktm. Function should be equivalent. Tires are different on some of the Mx models. Brakes and clutch are Brembo on Mx and xc I think same as ktm. Subframe is aluminum like ktm.

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10/21/2020 5:28 PM

vansnxtweek489 wrote:

Different bar clamps, as well. Basically trying to build a bike that costs less than KTM..but its only gonna be around a $900 difference.

LungButter wrote:

Only?

Thats quite a bit really, hell thats a years tire budget, a good stock of spare parts, a few bolt ons to customize etc. etc.

The market is begging for bikes that don't cost $10k-$12k. I'm all for manufacturers making moves to lessen the costs of new bikes. We don't all need something ready to go race a SX.

I definitely didn’t say it was a bad thing.

It’d be nice if it was greater than $1000 cheaper. I think it’s a good thing too.

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10/21/2020 7:46 PM

vansnxtweek489 wrote:

Different bar clamps, as well. Basically trying to build a bike that costs less than KTM..but its only gonna be around a $900 difference.

LungButter wrote:

Only?

Thats quite a bit really, hell thats a years tire budget, a good stock of spare parts, a few bolt ons to customize etc. etc.

The market is begging for bikes that don't cost $10k-$12k. I'm all for manufacturers making moves to lessen the costs of new bikes. We don't all need something ready to go race a SX.

TeamGreen wrote:

Here's the actual pricing...from another thread...

"Here in the US they're $800 less (MC450F: $9,399 v. 450 SX-F: $10,199)"

As you've pointed out: that's a years worth of tires and stuff.

The bike that I think is THE deal at GasGas is the 125. It's retail price is $200 more than the YZ ($6799 v $6599).

That could be just to get people to buy, get gas gas some market share. Prices go up in a few years once they’re hot on the consumer.

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10/22/2020 1:35 AM

When can we expect first ride reviews?

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10/23/2020 3:24 AM

Really curious why they didn’t release a 350mx gasgas in the states for this year sad I was going to buy one but I guess I’ll wait for 2022 husky

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10/23/2020 4:25 AM

The traction control/map switch is a gimmick anyway...buy the gas gas and get a vortex with the change if you want real maps....win 👍👍

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10/23/2020 10:00 AM

Hopefully they don't change the clutch like Husqvarna did.
I know the offroad model had issues and had a recall on it.

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10/23/2020 10:42 AM

Our first GG just came in. A MC65

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10/23/2020 11:06 AM

Thankful they didn't equip the big bikes with the problematic magura clutch unit.

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Unleaded tastes a little tangy. Supreme is kinda sour, and diesel tastes pretty good.

10/23/2020 12:43 PM

Sold before it was out of the crate Photo
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10/23/2020 12:53 PM

How much cheaper is the mc65 compared to the ktm 65?

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10/23/2020 1:21 PM

$4899.....KTM $5099

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10/23/2020 1:22 PM

Rickyisms wrote:

Thankful they didn't equip the big bikes with the problematic magura clutch unit.

Allegedly that's fixed this year.

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10/23/2020 1:38 PM

It appears to be quite easy and cost effective to make an EC125 out of an MC125...especially for those of us that don’t feel the need for e-start on a 125.

Stoked!

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