Gajser’s place among the GP greats

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Coming into the year it seemed like it was all about the KTM trio with the two big chiefs joined by the kid that broke Herlings single season 250 records. And of course who can forget Lewis Philips with the all time face palm of saying he doesn’t think Gajser would even win a race. My god it should take awhile before anyone takes your analysis seriously. But as it stands Gajser now only trails Everts, AC, Roberts and DeCoster at the age of 24. So after crashing his way to his 4th title now and 3rd in the top class where does he rank on the all time list? Is he firmly top 10 now?
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Park Boys wrote:
Coming into the year it seemed like it was all about the KTM trio with the two big chiefs joined by the kid that broke Herlings...
Coming into the year it seemed like it was all about the KTM trio with the two big chiefs joined by the kid that broke Herlings single season 250 records. And of course who can forget Lewis Philips with the all time face palm of saying he doesn’t think Gajser would even win a race. My god it should take awhile before anyone takes your analysis seriously. But as it stands Gajser now only trails Everts, AC, Roberts and DeCoster at the age of 24. So after crashing his way to his 4th title now and 3rd in the top class where does he rank on the all time list? Is he firmly top 10 now?
Yeah.... weird you would think the media wouldn’t be biased towards riders. But Lewis might be the worst he hates gasjer and you can tell. Especially with the interview on pulp. Glad to see gasjer get another title to shut some people up.
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I am big fan of the guy. Yeah he sends it and is upside down a lot but how can you not pull for Tim. Nothing against the KTM guys I like them as well but there definitely seems to be some bias going on. Glad he pulled this one off and after watching a small bio on him and his family a while back I like him even more.
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I am big fan of the guy. Yeah he sends it and is upside down a lot but how can you not pull for Tim. Nothing...
I am big fan of the guy. Yeah he sends it and is upside down a lot but how can you not pull for Tim. Nothing against the KTM guys I like them as well but there definitely seems to be some bias going on. Glad he pulled this one off and after watching a small bio on him and his family a while back I like him even more.
The praise for the KTM boys is warranted but giving Gajser his due takes nothing away from the others. It has to be impossible now to not give Gajsers his going into 2021.
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11/4/2020 7:54am Edited Date/Time 11/4/2020 7:57am
He rode so well and raced so smartly, especially in the second part of the season! He looks so damn good on that new CRF! Well deserved champ!!
And stats don't lie. It's amazing if you watch the crashes he's had in the last years AND look at the sucess he's had.
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While Gajser is one of my favorite riders of all time, dont forget, he didnt win a race until after Herlings was out. But yes, he should be up there with the greats.3 MXGP titles in what, 5 years? How many wins/podiums? And still a long ways from done. Congrats Tiga!
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Renner153 wrote:
While Gajser is one of my favorite riders of all time, dont forget, he didnt win a race until after Herlings was out. But yes, he...
While Gajser is one of my favorite riders of all time, dont forget, he didnt win a race until after Herlings was out. But yes, he should be up there with the greats.3 MXGP titles in what, 5 years? How many wins/podiums? And still a long ways from done. Congrats Tiga!
I was waiting for this, he had moto wins and crashed O/As away with Herlings there. But the argument of “you only won trope cause this guy was gone” can literally be applied to everyone that has ever raced outside of RC, and Herlings is included in there too.

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Renner153 wrote:
While Gajser is one of my favorite riders of all time, dont forget, he didnt win a race until after Herlings was out. But yes, he...
While Gajser is one of my favorite riders of all time, dont forget, he didnt win a race until after Herlings was out. But yes, he should be up there with the greats.3 MXGP titles in what, 5 years? How many wins/podiums? And still a long ways from done. Congrats Tiga!
Park Boys wrote:
I was waiting for this, he had moto wins and crashed O/As away with Herlings there. But the argument of “you only won trope cause this...
I was waiting for this, he had moto wins and crashed O/As away with Herlings there. But the argument of “you only won trope cause this guy was gone” can literally be applied to everyone that has ever raced outside of RC, and Herlings is included in there too.

Just simply pointing out that up until Herlings was out, Lewis was actually correct.
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He's got a way to go to get right up there with the greatest of Greats, but heck, with those 4 World Championships, he's well on his way.

He comes across as a very good hearted, friendly bloke, and I don't think it's in any way an act. His concern today for Jeremy Van Horebeek was very obvious, as was his relief when Lisa Leyland said he'd walked back to the pits.

He prangs a bit, but really, they all do. He just seems far less prone to injury than , say, Jeffry Herlings . Though, he has been on the hurt list - he's not immune to injury, at all.

He got an MX2 World Championships at age 19, and did not stay when he could, and went straight into MXGP, to get that title his first year. And 2 others since then.

As a comparison (and I'm quite an appreciator of Cianciarulo, I'm no 'hater'), Tim is just over a month older than Adam, but he's been on 450s, and winning, since 2016. AC, only this year went to 450s, with a 250 US title from 2019. TG's achieved a hell of a lot, yet some people seem to dismiss that.

I'd missed this supposed dislike by Lewis of Tim - I'll have to chase that up - if correct, Lewis (who's writings and Pod casts I quite like) really is not doing himself any favours.
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Renner153 wrote:
While Gajser is one of my favorite riders of all time, dont forget, he didnt win a race until after Herlings was out. But yes, he...
While Gajser is one of my favorite riders of all time, dont forget, he didnt win a race until after Herlings was out. But yes, he should be up there with the greats.3 MXGP titles in what, 5 years? How many wins/podiums? And still a long ways from done. Congrats Tiga!
Park Boys wrote:
I was waiting for this, he had moto wins and crashed O/As away with Herlings there. But the argument of “you only won trope cause this...
I was waiting for this, he had moto wins and crashed O/As away with Herlings there. But the argument of “you only won trope cause this guy was gone” can literally be applied to everyone that has ever raced outside of RC, and Herlings is included in there too.

Renner153 wrote:
Just simply pointing out that up until Herlings was out, Lewis was actually correct.
If he said race wins no he wasn't. When you hear Malin say how many race wins a rider has on the season he's talking about motos. Overalls are GP wins. Gajser won some motos with Herlings in the field this season.
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Park Boys wrote:
I was waiting for this, he had moto wins and crashed O/As away with Herlings there. But the argument of “you only won trope cause this...
I was waiting for this, he had moto wins and crashed O/As away with Herlings there. But the argument of “you only won trope cause this guy was gone” can literally be applied to everyone that has ever raced outside of RC, and Herlings is included in there too.

Renner153 wrote:
Just simply pointing out that up until Herlings was out, Lewis was actually correct.
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If he said race wins no he wasn't. When you hear Malin say how many race wins a rider has on the season he's talking about...
If he said race wins no he wasn't. When you hear Malin say how many race wins a rider has on the season he's talking about motos. Overalls are GP wins. Gajser won some motos with Herlings in the field this season.
One of them coming in Herlings' backyard in Valkenswaard
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He's got a way to go to get [i]right [/i] up there with the greatest of Greats, but heck, with those 4 World Championships, he's well...
He's got a way to go to get right up there with the greatest of Greats, but heck, with those 4 World Championships, he's well on his way.

He comes across as a very good hearted, friendly bloke, and I don't think it's in any way an act. His concern today for Jeremy Van Horebeek was very obvious, as was his relief when Lisa Leyland said he'd walked back to the pits.

He prangs a bit, but really, they all do. He just seems far less prone to injury than , say, Jeffry Herlings . Though, he has been on the hurt list - he's not immune to injury, at all.

He got an MX2 World Championships at age 19, and did not stay when he could, and went straight into MXGP, to get that title his first year. And 2 others since then.

As a comparison (and I'm quite an appreciator of Cianciarulo, I'm no 'hater'), Tim is just over a month older than Adam, but he's been on 450s, and winning, since 2016. AC, only this year went to 450s, with a 250 US title from 2019. TG's achieved a hell of a lot, yet some people seem to dismiss that.

I'd missed this supposed dislike by Lewis of Tim - I'll have to chase that up - if correct, Lewis (who's writings and Pod casts I quite like) really is not doing himself any favours.
First time I have actually read it in text, are the rest of the world wondering what " prangs" means, LOL.
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Congrats to Gajser, great to get another well deserved title. He has amazing speed and a great team around him.

As mentioned by other posters above, the crashing thing is old, all riders crash.....some get injured some dont.
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He is allready up there with some of the all time greats.
He has the same nr. of 'Kings class' titles as Mikkola, Thorpe, and Malherbe.
He has more then Geboers, Herlings, Puzar, Bayle, Albertyn, Pichon, Tortelli, Carlsqvist to name a few.

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He is one of the all-time greats already and deserves everything that comes his way. Congrats Tiga243
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Talked to him a few times. Just as nice and open with fans as in the interviews with media. Impressive season. Congrats and hat off to TG243
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He did all of it this year on a bike that was in development and let him down a few times too. You could tell that the bike got better as the season went on but he was still one of the absolute best from the very start of the season.

He's also nowhere near as inconsistent as people make out or he wouldn't have wrapped this championship up already. The only person that could have matched his speed and fitness consistently over the course of the season crashed and hurt himself. TC222 just didn't quite have it this year either after some small injuries.

I think we're in for a treat over the next few years as TG, Prado & Herlings could push each other to do incredible things in a class that has about 10 other guys that can also step up and win at any time. You can also never count TC222 out
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I honestly can't imagine any reason why you wouldn't be a fan of Tim Gajser. One of the most humble and nicest guys in the pits, always exciting to watch, has worked extremely hard to get where he is today. I'm certainly a massive fan, congrats TG243!
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There are always a few things you can ask yourself. Do we think that riders in the '70, '80 and '90 had tougher competition? Meaning: "Did a championship got a higher value back then, than now because of the competition?"

You could say: No, because all champions need to step up to the MXGP class and that creates a damn hard class.
You could say: Yes, in the past the classes where more stacked because you started a weekend with 120 riders who all wanted to qualify for 30 places. At some tracks you needed to race between real sand specialists and at some other tracks you found yourself between some local 'blue groove' specialists.

I say this all just to show that it's a complicated question.
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MXMattii wrote:
There are always a few things you can ask yourself. Do we think that riders in the '70, '80 and '90 had tougher competition? Meaning: "Did...
There are always a few things you can ask yourself. Do we think that riders in the '70, '80 and '90 had tougher competition? Meaning: "Did a championship got a higher value back then, than now because of the competition?"

You could say: No, because all champions need to step up to the MXGP class and that creates a damn hard class.
You could say: Yes, in the past the classes where more stacked because you started a weekend with 120 riders who all wanted to qualify for 30 places. At some tracks you needed to race between real sand specialists and at some other tracks you found yourself between some local 'blue groove' specialists.

I say this all just to show that it's a complicated question.
Or you could appreciate what you have and not feel the need to compare things, realising that anyone who gets four world motocross titles is good... No matter what the era or competition

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4 world championships with 3 in the premier motocross series in the world. I’d take it. Lol

He’s awesome, and seems to be just as awesome of a person. I’m a fan for sure.
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MXMattii wrote:
There are always a few things you can ask yourself. Do we think that riders in the '70, '80 and '90 had tougher competition? Meaning: "Did...
There are always a few things you can ask yourself. Do we think that riders in the '70, '80 and '90 had tougher competition? Meaning: "Did a championship got a higher value back then, than now because of the competition?"

You could say: No, because all champions need to step up to the MXGP class and that creates a damn hard class.
You could say: Yes, in the past the classes where more stacked because you started a weekend with 120 riders who all wanted to qualify for 30 places. At some tracks you needed to race between real sand specialists and at some other tracks you found yourself between some local 'blue groove' specialists.

I say this all just to show that it's a complicated question.
ayearinmx wrote:
Or you could appreciate what you have and not feel the need to compare things, realising that anyone who gets four world motocross titles is good...
Or you could appreciate what you have and not feel the need to compare things, realising that anyone who gets four world motocross titles is good... No matter what the era or competition
Title: "Gajser’s place among the GP greats"
Your answer: "not feel the need to compare things, realising that anyone who gets four world motocross titles is good..."

Did I miss a memo?

Is Tim Gajser a great motocross rider? Off Course, where does he rank up between the greats? They are all Number one!! Happy Ayearinmx? DryUnsure
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11/5/2020 1:29am
Gajser & Honda just go hand in hand. Such an exciting rider to watch. Is he classed as one of the best? 100% he is.
11/5/2020 1:35am
Renner153 wrote:
While Gajser is one of my favorite riders of all time, dont forget, he didnt win a race until after Herlings was out. But yes, he...
While Gajser is one of my favorite riders of all time, dont forget, he didnt win a race until after Herlings was out. But yes, he should be up there with the greats.3 MXGP titles in what, 5 years? How many wins/podiums? And still a long ways from done. Congrats Tiga!
Herlings didn't win until Kenny went to the US either.
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Fuck it must be frustrating being the guys competitor...

Everyone else doesn't seem to crash that much but they're made of glass – he's the veritable test dummy and made of rubber.
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11/5/2020 4:12am
Crush wrote:
Fuck it must be frustrating being the guys competitor... Everyone else doesn't seem to crash that much but they're made of glass – he's the veritable test...
Fuck it must be frustrating being the guys competitor...

Everyone else doesn't seem to crash that much but they're made of glass – he's the veritable test dummy and made of rubber.
Crashing without getting hurt is also a talent and skill (I seriously mean that). Tuck and roll, tuck and roll baby. Obviously nothing anyone ever told Herlings about 😂

One thing is for sure regarding Gajser: Not many has ever had such a beautiful riding style. If someone asks what makes a good riding style in MX, point to that guy.
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When you win 4 titles in the most competitive era ever, you have to be doing something right.

His ability to stay healthy despite lobbing at the scenery multiple times , doesnt change the fact that he is fast .

Combine the 2 and you have what we are seeing.

If we ever see a season where everyone stays fit, you cant say he wont be in contention for every win.
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11/5/2020 7:40am
Is there a " Congrats Tim" thread or have I missed it somehow?
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Amazing style and technique. Would love to see him race ama moto
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