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Anyone know the story behind this? It says it is no longer feasible to include it in the program, so I assume that means a time constraint? Lack of entries?
https://gnccracing.com/2018/09/07/competition-bulletin-2018-9-final-gnc…
"it is no longer feasible to include UTV racing over the course of a GNCC race weekend. For 2019, GNCC Racing will expand the micro program to 12 rounds."
Micro program? I assume they mean the 9 currently?
https://gnccracing.com/2018/09/07/competition-bulletin-2018-9-final-gnc…
"it is no longer feasible to include UTV racing over the course of a GNCC race weekend. For 2019, GNCC Racing will expand the micro program to 12 rounds."
Micro program? I assume they mean the 9 currently?
they do 6 rounds now (2018)
They started "closing" the woods for spectators during the UTV races, so
my thoughts are they end it now before someone gets run over.
One of the things that makes GNCC so popular is that the tracks are wide enough to have some racing room and not single track through the trees with bark busters all day.
The Shop
I expect DC to drop in and enlighten us. Let's be clear, MX Sports was the 1st and most avid supporter of 4 wheelers, and many owe a debt of gratitude for the tremendous effort in sweat, blood and treasure that they have poured into this segment of the sport, when other's wouldn't.
I'm sure other promoters could learn from their experience if they are willing to share the it. MX Sports is at the top of Powersports promoters in the world, and if they can't make it work who can?
As I understand it, DC isn't involved in the day to day with GNCC, but if he has any info that's different from what I've been told, it'd be cool to hear it. Also if I've mis-stated anything, a correction would be appreciated.
If what I heard is true, so much for waivers, good judgement, and personal accountability. Also score another one for the lawyers.
Lastly, I highly doubt that damage to the land is a motivating factor...after every event, GNCC does a ton of rehab work on the properties.,
I hate those things...and I wish they’d go away.
I don’t know if the track will be any different on Sunday’s though for bikes, the quads push that dirt out way before the UTV’s do, in my opinion.
Quad-riders and UTV riders/drivers are people, too.
Not that there's anything wrong with that!
If they go away so will a lot of powersports dealers.
My problem with them is the noise, some of them are way beyond reasonable. I don't believe anyone should be locked out of public land, dirt bikes included.
Agree on the noise though, that bleeds over to us.
Pit Row
There is (and always has been) a lot of animosity toward 4 wheelers around here (and we aren't even talking jeeps and trucks yet). Motocross tracks are one thing, but when you get into the outdoors, unless you want to double or triple your entry fees, others should be welcomed to spread the expense of running events around.
We have a local place that makes WAY more money off of Jeeps and 4 wheelers than 2 wheelers, but they do have areas for only 2 wheelers (single track). 2 Wheelers are NOT restricted from the other areas but it gets extreme going after the Jeeps for sure. Once you start going up the hills, it is almost impossible to turn around, you have to be committed to 3-4 ft limestone ledges, and it is scary, and novices need to stay the f**k off of those hills. Everybody gets along. 240 miles of trails and 3000 private acres. The largest in Texas.
http://www.hiddenfallsadventurepark.com/
Insurance companies have allowed some latitude for "off road" events, although for MX tracks insurance has always required spectators to be 30ft. from the track behind a fence for the last 40 years or so. It appears some of that "latitude" for off roading is being reeled in.
As stated above insurance is an issue, recently K&K, the insurance company that was writing most of the insurance in this country for these type of events has backed off and they won't cover the camping/spectator part at all which has led most groups to go to AMA events in order to secure insurance. Of course the AMA is for motorcycles. While they cover the quads, not sure if they will cover UTV's which can have more then one passenger, etc......
When the side by sides started out they were simple machines, way less destructive then the quads. Now they are full blown dune buggies. It is a different world. If they ever get street legal we have a big problem on our hands, if they can go into state and national lands just like any car, it will spell disaster.
In the end, I don't think anybody but the UTV owners will be sad to see them go. I for will not. I race HS after quads in Florida and it really sucks. Two trenches to choose from a foot deep right down to the roots.
DC
Racer X
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