From Glen Helen's website...

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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 7:25pm
Sorry if this has already been posted.......

OFFICIAL STATEMENT
Glen Helen Raceway regretfully announces that it will not host Round two of AMA 250/450 Nationals
on May 29, 2010.

There has been long negotiations between MX Sports and Glen Helen Raceway in regards to the event. As a previous host of more than 14 AMA Nationals and three GP’s over the last 20 years, Glen Helen has proven to be a world class venue (and so do the fans who have flooded the gates in large numbers over the years).

From the beginning of the most recent contract negotiations, Glen Helen has asked for the same contractual terms as other tracks on the National circuit received in 2010. Due to the lack of equality in the terms,
Glen Helen is unable to move forward with a National at this time.

The National Promoter’s Group (NPG) was formed 15 years ago to set the standard for motocross in America. As a charter member, Glen Helen has stood together with the other promoters for the entire 15-year period. We feel that our contributions to the promotion of the sport were integral to the progress that has been made in motocross.

Glen Helen supports all the teams, riders, sponsors and other National promoters 100 percent and we are sorry that the fans who planned to come to Glen Helen to see “Real Motocross” will not get the chance to do it this year.

Glen Helen will still be hosting events every weekend and will give fans, riders and sponsors a venue that they can be proud to be part of. We have a pre-National event on May 16, 2010 with the MTA World MX Championships, which will give fans a first look at the outdoor teams for 2010. A large Pro purse will be included.

More details to follow.
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3/25/2010 12:25pm
Maybe they are just busy that day and can't do the races.
3/25/2010 12:25pm
"From the beginning of the most recent contract negotiations, Glen Helen has asked for the same contractual terms as other tracks on the National circuit received in 2010. Due to the lack of equality in the terms,
Glen Helen is unable to move forward with a National at this time. "






Can someone elaborate on this and why there was a so called "lack of equality."
3/25/2010 12:29pm
Yeah a lot of fluff in there, what did Glen Helen not want to do? That's all I care about, National or not. Everything they said has already been spread across the country, we know.
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TripleFive wrote:
"From the beginning of the most recent contract negotiations, Glen Helen has asked for the same contractual terms as other tracks on the National circuit received...
"From the beginning of the most recent contract negotiations, Glen Helen has asked for the same contractual terms as other tracks on the National circuit received in 2010. Due to the lack of equality in the terms,
Glen Helen is unable to move forward with a National at this time. "






Can someone elaborate on this and why there was a so called "lack of equality."
That my friend is the million dollar question we all want an answer to that we'll probably never get.

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From Racer X:

Glen Helen No Longer a Part of the 2010 Lucas Oil AMA Pro MX Series
MX Sports Pro Racing Announces Postponement of Round 2 of Lucas Oil AMA Pro Motocross Championship


Mar 25 2010 11:30AM

MORGANTOWN, W.V. – MX Sports Pro Racing announced today the postponement of the Glen Helen round of the 2010 Lucas Oil AMA Pro Motocross Championship, citing contractual differences with the promoter of the San Bernardino, Calif., facility. The second-round event, which was originally scheduled for Glen Helen Raceway on May 29, 2010, is now being slated for September 11.

“This was a difficult decision, but ultimately, we simply were not able to come to contractual terms with Glen Helen Raceway,” said Davey Coombs, Vice President of MX Sports Pro Racing. “By moving the date to September 11, we will have time to find a suitable venue. Riders, teams and fans are making travel plans now and we want them to feel secure that we will have an exceptional venue ready in Southern California. We apologize for any inconvenience caused by this change.”

MX Sports Pro Racing does not intend to fill the date of May 29 and will opt to leave the remaining series dates intact, giving competitors and teams Memorial Day weekend off. Details for the September 11 event will be announced soon.

The revised 2010 Lucas Oil AMA Pro Motocross Championship Schedule is:

Rd 1 May 22 Hangtown Classic Sacramento, CA
Rd 2 Jun 5 Freestone Raceway Wortham, TX
Rd 3 Jun 12 High Point Raceway Mt. Morris, PA
Rd 4 Jun 19 Budds Creek Motocross Mechanicsville, MD
Rd 5 Jun 26 Thunder Valley Motocross Lakewood, CO
Rd 6 Jul 3 RedBud Buchanan, MI
Rd 7 Jul 17 Spring Creek Motocross Millville, MN
Rd 8 Jul 24 Washougal MX Park Washougal, WA
Rd 9 Aug 14 Unadilla New Berlin, NY
Rd 10 Aug 28 Moto-X 338 Southwick, MA
Rd 11 Sept 4 Steel City Raceway Delmont, PA
Rd 12 Sep 11 TBA CA

Racing fans that have purchased advanced tickets or camping passes to this event should contact Glen Helen at www.glenhelen.com.
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3/25/2010 12:39pm
It's at least encouraging that neither party on the deal is jamming the other in their respective public statements about why a deqal wasn't reached.
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3/25/2010 12:40pm
jasonv43 wrote:
Maybe they are just busy that day and can't do the races.
It's possible that they already committed to a family birthday party or something. I know how my family gets if someone doesnt show up.
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Contracts are gained and lost everyday in all different types of business's.......that's just the way it has to work. Yeah it sucks and this hits us hard because it's something we are close too, but this is how business works.
Now.....if they were bullied out of it, then that sucks.
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I'll still be there rain or shine.
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3/25/2010 1:44pm
fcr wrote:
I'll still be there rain or shine.
Your more than welcome to go to Glen Helen if you want but......

I don't think anybody else will there.
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3/25/2010 1:45pm
Keeping it "core" really worked out for Glen Helen as far as getting a national...

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3/25/2010 1:59pm
TripleFive wrote:
"From the beginning of the most recent contract negotiations, Glen Helen has asked for the same contractual terms as other tracks on the National circuit received...
"From the beginning of the most recent contract negotiations, Glen Helen has asked for the same contractual terms as other tracks on the National circuit received in 2010. Due to the lack of equality in the terms,
Glen Helen is unable to move forward with a National at this time. "






Can someone elaborate on this and why there was a so called "lack of equality."
That my friend is the million dollar question we all want an answer to that we'll probably never get.
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Until then, we will get people taking different sides without knowing what really transpired. Both sides are probably somewhat at fault, but its a done deal now - lets move on.
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3/25/2010 2:01pm
Remember about 5 yrs ago when a few tracks got those intent to cancel their national letters?

I think it was GH, Broome, Troy, High Point and Southwick

All were told that upgrades needed to be made to their facilites to maintain their Nationals.
Southwick made a bunch of changes like moving the pits, reversing the track, adding fill (didn't say they were all good changes).

The others made changes, Troy sold it's rights to Lakewood and Broome sold theirs to Freestone

What did GH do?
What significant changes have been made at GH in the last couple years, amenity wise, to make it be a more pleasant experience for spectators and how it appeared on TV?

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I remember seeing a lifted truck that was a make shift shuttle bus that gave people rides back and forth from the Pavilion parking lot.
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flarider wrote:
Remember about 5 yrs ago when a few tracks got those intent to cancel their national letters? I think it was GH, Broome, Troy, High Point...
Remember about 5 yrs ago when a few tracks got those intent to cancel their national letters?

I think it was GH, Broome, Troy, High Point and Southwick

All were told that upgrades needed to be made to their facilites to maintain their Nationals.
Southwick made a bunch of changes like moving the pits, reversing the track, adding fill (didn't say they were all good changes).

The others made changes, Troy sold it's rights to Lakewood and Broome sold theirs to Freestone

What did GH do?
What significant changes have been made at GH in the last couple years, amenity wise, to make it be a more pleasant experience for spectators and how it appeared on TV?

GH did hardly anything if any. It almost "seems" as though they had the mentality that "This is GH, there is no way they would consider dropping us". Kind of like that ole saying "It will never happen to me"!!

Purely speculation on my part. Just a little of what it seems like to me.
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3/25/2010 2:12pm
the changes ruined southwick. i dont know how many times you have ridden there, but i would much rather have the old track back and stick the national up their ass.
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3/25/2010 2:16pm
flarider wrote:
Remember about 5 yrs ago when a few tracks got those intent to cancel their national letters? I think it was GH, Broome, Troy, High Point...
Remember about 5 yrs ago when a few tracks got those intent to cancel their national letters?

I think it was GH, Broome, Troy, High Point and Southwick

All were told that upgrades needed to be made to their facilites to maintain their Nationals.
Southwick made a bunch of changes like moving the pits, reversing the track, adding fill (didn't say they were all good changes).

The others made changes, Troy sold it's rights to Lakewood and Broome sold theirs to Freestone

What did GH do?
What significant changes have been made at GH in the last couple years, amenity wise, to make it be a more pleasant experience for spectators and how it appeared on TV?

What did Glen Helen do?? Well they built a scoring tower, put in a cool bridge, brought in sand. I'm sure the AMA and the MX Sports guys and gals all liked a air conditioned scoring tower...
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3/25/2010 2:21pm
Here' what I -DO- know...

Dirt Diggers North, a Dirt-Bike/Motorcycle club in the most Ol' School sense, just negotiated a multi-year deal with MX Sports for the Hangtown National.

There were pro's and con's from each side's perspective and it took a-while and it took lawyers, too. That's what a Legal and Binding contract requires.

Dirt Diggers and MX Sports, both, had their reasons to hold firm on certain provisions/positions: It seems their was some give and take...there always is...

Dirt Diggers was required to make changes/provisions in the Venue and Event to MX Sports' requirements: Some of which, I can tell, Dirt Diggers felt was beyond their capability and/or needs of the "Event"...

But, it -DID- get ALL SORTED OUT!

So, why didin't this happen at G.H.?

Dunno; but, jus' like the Hangtown process...

There are -2- sides to the situation...and...only -1- track that didn't "pull it off".

I'm sure BOTH SIDES have their reasons.

I'm not so sure that the race couldn't STILL end-up at G.H....in September.

There's a REASON it's called "Negotiating"...
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For me personally........being a MX and SX fan my whole life, I dont think Glen Helen needed to change anything. When you wanted comfort and cleanliness, you go to SX.......when you want the raw, gritty, hardcore MX feeling, you go to Glen Helen and watch a national.
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TeamGreen wrote:
Here' what I -DO- know... Dirt Diggers North, a Dirt-Bike/Motorcycle club in the most Ol' School sense, just negotiated a multi-year deal with MX Sports for...
Here' what I -DO- know...

Dirt Diggers North, a Dirt-Bike/Motorcycle club in the most Ol' School sense, just negotiated a multi-year deal with MX Sports for the Hangtown National.

There were pro's and con's from each side's perspective and it took a-while and it took lawyers, too. That's what a Legal and Binding contract requires.

Dirt Diggers and MX Sports, both, had their reasons to hold firm on certain provisions/positions: It seems their was some give and take...there always is...

Dirt Diggers was required to make changes/provisions in the Venue and Event to MX Sports' requirements: Some of which, I can tell, Dirt Diggers felt was beyond their capability and/or needs of the "Event"...

But, it -DID- get ALL SORTED OUT!

So, why didin't this happen at G.H.?

Dunno; but, jus' like the Hangtown process...

There are -2- sides to the situation...and...only -1- track that didn't "pull it off".

I'm sure BOTH SIDES have their reasons.

I'm not so sure that the race couldn't STILL end-up at G.H....in September.

There's a REASON it's called "Negotiating"...
"I'm not so sure that the race couldn't STILL end-up at G.H.....in September."

It's very funny that you said that. Someone just stopped by and picked up some stuff on their way to Glen Helen for testing. They said that just because its not happening in May, doesnt mean that it still wont be at Glen Helen in September.....they just might need a little more time to work out some bugs.
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glen helen puts up a $100,000 purse for 250and450 pros and run it the same day as hangtown .glen helen will have the the most pro rider attendence in the state that weekend .
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track guy wrote:
glen helen puts up a $100,000 purse for 250and450 pros and run it the same day as hangtown .glen helen will have the the most pro...
glen helen puts up a $100,000 purse for 250and450 pros and run it the same day as hangtown .glen helen will have the the most pro rider attendence in the state that weekend .
So which race will Mike be at?
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track guy wrote:
glen helen puts up a $100,000 purse for 250and450 pros and run it the same day as hangtown .glen helen will have the the most pro...
glen helen puts up a $100,000 purse for 250and450 pros and run it the same day as hangtown .glen helen will have the the most pro rider attendence in the state that weekend .
GuyB wrote:
So which race will Mike be at?
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3/25/2010 5:19pm
they will probably continue to negotiate and the race will end up at GH in Sept. As we discuss this, I think we are all realizing there is not a suitable site in SoCal to host the race. It is going to be much hotter out there in Sept as opposed to May.
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3/25/2010 5:25pm
jasonv43 wrote:
Maybe they are just busy that day and can't do the races.
Torco1 wrote:
It's possible that they already committed to a family birthday party or something. I know how my family gets if someone doesnt show up.
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3/25/2010 5:34pm
Get over Glen Helen people. I told you 3 days ago the race will be a Pala on the 11th of September with the awards at the casino. The writing is on the walls. GH hasn't done a thing in all of those 15yrs to make the track/facility better and you can't just count on the race being there because it always has, and all the top guys ride there consistently. Life doesn't work like that and neither does moto. Start the series in CA and end it in CA. I think the majority of the industry will like that.
3/25/2010 6:26pm
Get over Glen Helen people. I told you 3 days ago the race will be a Pala on the 11th of September with the awards at...
Get over Glen Helen people. I told you 3 days ago the race will be a Pala on the 11th of September with the awards at the casino. The writing is on the walls. GH hasn't done a thing in all of those 15yrs to make the track/facility better and you can't just count on the race being there because it always has, and all the top guys ride there consistently. Life doesn't work like that and neither does moto. Start the series in CA and end it in CA. I think the majority of the industry will like that.
I've been going to GH regularly for 15+ years and I've seen it change plenty for the better...there are new hills/track sections practically every year (first banzai mountain, then Shoei, then Yamaha, then Mt Whitney, tons of beach sand brought in) they built a new, modern scoring tower, a two story observation deck for VIP's, numerous tunnels for spectators to get around, a bridge, better organization for the overnight campers, ample portapotties (I've never waited in a line), expanded the areas for vendors, etc......I've been to Hangtown a bunch of times over the same period and don't see nearly the same changes...where are the bleachers at HT? The last time I was there I must have missed them....the track layout has been basically the same since the early 90's (forever?)...I'm not bad-mouthing HT because I love the place and enjoy watching the Nationals there and think the Dirt Diggers do a great job...but to say that GH has sat on their hands is not entirely accurate IMO...This whole thing spells of politics (read: money) to me...not the ability of the facility to put on a good race....
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Get over Glen Helen people. I told you 3 days ago the race will be a Pala on the 11th of September with the awards at...
Get over Glen Helen people. I told you 3 days ago the race will be a Pala on the 11th of September with the awards at the casino. The writing is on the walls. GH hasn't done a thing in all of those 15yrs to make the track/facility better and you can't just count on the race being there because it always has, and all the top guys ride there consistently. Life doesn't work like that and neither does moto. Start the series in CA and end it in CA. I think the majority of the industry will like that.
an so it has come to pass.
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Before some of you talk about what was in the contracts unless you have read them and know the whole story you are just asuming you know. There is more there than you know and what is done hopfuly will work out for both. Lets just say there is a lot of miss information out there and leave it at that. But lets just say when you lay down in a bed of roses watch out for the thorns. And some roses don't last as long as others. Pala good luck and pull it off because if you don't you and MX Sports will both look bad and a bad rep is hard to lose in this sport. (MXDN SOBOBA)
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Mr. Info wrote:
Before some of you talk about what was in the contracts unless you have read them and know the whole story you are just asuming you...
Before some of you talk about what was in the contracts unless you have read them and know the whole story you are just asuming you know. There is more there than you know and what is done hopfuly will work out for both. Lets just say there is a lot of miss information out there and leave it at that. But lets just say when you lay down in a bed of roses watch out for the thorns. And some roses don't last as long as others. Pala good luck and pull it off because if you don't you and MX Sports will both look bad and a bad rep is hard to lose in this sport. (MXDN SOBOBA)
You don't happen to have any connection to GH? Smile

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