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21st was lapped four times and 22nd was a DNF. You're no longer part of the race after getting lapped twice. After the leader passes you the 2nd time the next time past the finish line, your race should be done. And I will never accept safety is the reason this concept wouldn't work. Open to hearing why this wouldn't work but please don't tell me racers can't pull off the track safely. RIders drop out now and riders pull into mechanics area without a multi bike pile up so getting two or three riders off the track during the race safely is possible.
If we had A and B mains or a Superfinal for 250/450 B riders this wouldn't be an issue.
If we had A and B mains or a Superfinal for 250/450 B riders this wouldn't be an issue.
The Shop
I wasn't surprised.
Using Foxborough as an example: Does Anderson have to pass Meshy twice for Meshy to get black flagged? If so that gives a clear advantage to Sexton and Musquin who are chasing Anderson and now don't have to deal with navigating around lappers. If you are black flagging Meshy before Anderson comes around to lap him twice then what is the cutoff point?
Further up the order you have guys like Clayson, Breece, Starling, and Noren who are battling for top 20 in the series which constitutes several thousand dollars payout from the AMA. At Foxborough I believe Clayson got the pass on Breece for 13th with two laps to go. Those guys are still battling late into race (although they both finished only 1 lap down this round).
I'm open to some kind of idea but implementation seems like it would be an issue. I would prefer they make tracks with longer lap times but that probably isn't so simple either. It would also be nice to see better adherence to the blue flag being waved.
Side note: in off-road racing the pros also have to lap non-pros, 100s of them at that. Not exactly a direct comparison but it's just part of racing sometimes.
We see average 250 guys stepping it up to 450 cos its easier to make the night show and mains..
Age limit 250, so the park and stay down boys get moved out, and run 1 250 class.
or we could do a 107 percent rule like in F1... but then you might not have too many guys on the gate....
L.O.L.
I added a red line to the qualifying chart to show the cutoff:
That fastest 40 go to the night show: love that.
The fastest or luckiest 22 go to the main: love that.
Every now and then, a privateer…a REAL privateer makes it to the main & often struggles just to finish the damn thing. I absolutely love that they’re out there. They EARNED IT. At the same time, I’ll text the 722 that he needs to bump-up his “main game”.
But, to be clear, as a friend of some of these guys, and to a person…I would say…
“Lappers are part of the game. Deal with it. They’re just a moving obstacle. No excuses!”
Some of you already bitch about how boring the races are. Why are you trying to make them MORE boring?
I disagree that this 'issue' is an issue.
Pit Row
How does eliminating moving obstacles make the races more boring? Do you find it exciting seeing lappers impact championship contenders' title chances? The title contenders work pretty hard too and earned the right with two laps to go to race on a track clear of riders going at a much slower pace. There's also a safety angle in removing lapped racers from the track in the final minutes if you think about it.
Everyone out there has their AMA SX Endorsement and they have ALL earned the OPPORTUNITY to be out there. It is all part of racing.
This "track clearing" is something some of you see as making better racing or something along those lines. Not me. That's something that makes it less of a race...and, therefore, "boring".
Let them ALL race...let them ALL finish their race...let them ALL earn it. That's how some of the rest of us see it.
I am soooo over the idea that some of these guys are royalty or, worse...yet, are too fragile to have to deal with lapping the competition. Furthermore, safety is no where near the "problem" many seem to say it is within the context of this thread.
Passing them is part of the game.
Love it Cade. As someone said above, there is no royalty in motocross racing.
Two lap sign comes out everyone who's been lapped more than once pulls off so the final 90 to 120 seconds of racing has fewer blue flags. Maybe they test drive it at the MEC then implement it going forward or save it for the last two races of the season if a championship is still on the table..22 rider fields and timed mains are great but more lappers are definitely the other side of the coin.
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