For $1395, Who the eff is buying?

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11/9/2012 10:47 AM
Edited Date/Time: 11/9/2012 11:00 AM

Sticker on 2013 Honda 450 exhaust from Pro-Circuit for a full Ti system is $1395.

Who the fuck is shelling out that kind of cash for an exhaust?

Are Ti sheets and tubing that expensive now? Or is PC tripling their money?

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11/9/2012 10:54 AM

Totally ridiculous!

I remember when 2 bills would net an entire Pro-Circuit exhaust system for any bike, 125cc-500cc.

Life WAS good....

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11/9/2012 10:55 AM

Welcome to the age of the four strokes where everything is more expensive. sad

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11/9/2012 10:58 AM
Edited Date/Time: 11/9/2012 11:00 AM

Pro Circuit appears to be fishing for casual vet riders with disposable income and low self esteem.

They will sell lots of those systems here in SoCal

I'll bet every time PC sell one Mitch laughs his ass off...

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11/9/2012 11:01 AM

They won't sell for more than the market can bear so I am sure they will sell plenty or the price will come down.
I sure the hell wouldn't spend that kind of money on a dirtbike exhaust.

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11/9/2012 11:03 AM

Maybe they price it so high to profit from sponsored am riders who get 50% off.

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11/9/2012 11:04 AM

I saw that ad too. Yikes!

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11/9/2012 11:09 AM

As long you guy guys keep buying, they will keep selling at this price. To give you an idea of how much you guys are over paying for ANY 4-stroke exhaust an Akrakpovic set up for a Audi S5 is about $2500. Granted, it's not a full system- but about 10 times as much material for a demographic that has real disposable income.

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11/9/2012 11:10 AM

When the exhausts keep changing and new tooling has to be made, we pay for the tooling.

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11/9/2012 11:11 AM

Wow look it saves 2.35 pounds over stock, I'll be hearing that excuse from the 275 lb beer gut vet rider that bought one, I guarantee it.

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11/9/2012 11:14 AM

Brent wrote:

Wow look it saves 2.35 pounds over stock, I'll be hearing that excuse from the 275 lb beer gut vet rider that bought one, I ...more

He will also need new wheels with billet hubs to keep his girth from destroying the weak stock rims and hubs....Just Saying whistling

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11/9/2012 11:19 AM

LOL! Still it's very necessary for this huge group of riders that feels the 54 hp isn't enough, and want those extra 1,3 or whatever, and that the decrease weight with 2.35 lbs is really what made the same rider to clinch that trophy in 40+ C...

I like bling, but sometimes we behave like retards...

Any person bitching about lack of power of a 450, meanwhile doesn't stand a chance to qualify for a Nationals or whatever needs another kind of head work than he's asking for.

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11/9/2012 11:21 AM

Not to sound pessimistic, but I feel for the lucky fella who wrecks and ends up trashing one of the two silencers on a $1,400 exhaust.

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11/9/2012 11:23 AM

Wow that is pricy. Unfortunately, I crash too much to spend that kind of money on exhaust.

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11/9/2012 11:37 AM

That's ridiculous! I wonder if they will come out with a one-sided pipe/ silencer instead of the two?

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11/9/2012 11:39 AM

If that exhaust was on a green bike and the photo had a redhead leaning on it..I know more than a few who would buy it for $1500..

You do know the key to motocross success is buying all the parts the pros have!...Right?.......

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11/9/2012 11:43 AM

burn1986 wrote:

That's ridiculous! I wonder if they will come out with a one-sided pipe/ silencer instead of the two?

More than likely. A lot like all the manufacturers did back in '06 for the 250F. Then everyone can go buy a single for the 'low' price of $895 and stop complaining. We were told by the engine builder for my bikes that the single worked a bit better anyways, but don't expect any factory teams to run anything except a dual.

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11/9/2012 11:47 AM

newmann wrote:

I saw that ad too. Yikes!

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A dollar says next hear they come out with a version with the tapered entrance section. The square corners on that thing at just begging to crack and break out of the can.

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11/9/2012 11:48 AM
Edited Date/Time: 11/9/2012 2:49 PM

I have a single for $525 and a dual for $749. Some guys on ThumperTalk will give you their impression on how the duals work. The single works even better. Photo

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11/9/2012 11:48 AM

Not trying to keep up with the joneses, But this is definitely going to price people out of this sport!

I will stick with my trusty old 2001 yz250f

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11/9/2012 11:49 AM

Total waste of money.

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I've been here 17 years , am I still English, man ???

11/9/2012 11:50 AM

Maybe you guys should be mad at Honda for going to a dual exhaust. seams like there is twice as much stuff as before, hence the larger price tag.

Just a thought.

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11/9/2012 11:56 AM

DL wrote:

I have a single for $525 and a dual for $749. Some guys on ThumperTalk will give you their impression on how the duals work. ...more

Nice scooter. But I don't get it. The PR for the Honda made some arguments that a dual muffler really have a point, and here we see a single side muffler (like the rest of the heard). Will this bike tilt over, feel odd in air? I don't get it? I mean how come this is even possible after reading the test, PRs extra?

We are so screwed by the manufactures it's crazy, despite the total madness we buy the bikes despite not improving speed or decreasing costs...

For your son, it's another story, professional racers have nothing to do with those actually buying the bikes...

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11/9/2012 12:00 PM

The results are EASILY DENIABLE for $1400.

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11/9/2012 12:01 PM

Hey All,
Here are some prices on our all new Honda CRF450R 2013 systems, $999.99 for Full Titanium and carbon and it’s made in the USA SS/Carbon version $799.99. Photo

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11/9/2012 12:08 PM

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Found this looking at diffrent options
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11/9/2012 12:14 PM

FMFRacing1973 wrote:

Hey All,
Here are some prices on our all new Honda CRF450R 2013 systems, $999.99 for Full Titanium and carbon and it’s made ...more

That's cool, but it's still too expensive. How much material is used compared to a 2-stroke system? It's almost like you guys (PC, FMF) got together and agreed on how much to charge.

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11/9/2012 12:25 PM
Edited Date/Time: 11/9/2012 12:36 PM

I just got the new MXA in my mailbox. MXA's quote regarding twin pipes from their bike test...

"Q: What is MXA's opinion of the CRF450's twin pipes?

A: We think they are stupid, redundant, restrictive, heavy, expensive, and vanity engineering for someone in the Honda R&D department. And they aren't all that quiet. Our 2013 Honda CRF 450 failed the 115db two meter max test at 116.1. Plus one touch of the subframe or shock body after a race will reveal a disturbing heat sink effect from all the hot tubing snaking around the shock and airbox. How do we really feel? When Honda first tried this idea on the 2006 CRF250 they just bolted an extra muffler on an existing design and made up reasons for why it was better. It took a few years of consumer resistance, but Honda finally gave up on it. For 2013 the twin pipe idea is better thought out. The subframe and muffler canisters have been redesigned so that they can be sucked up under the bodywork and moved forward. This gives them centralization-of-mass credibilty Maybe it's just us, but a motocross bike doesn't need more parts to fail, get damaged in a crash, or fall off. Thumbs down-the same thumbs we used back in 2006."

One other intesting bit from the test- with the extra exhaust and chassis changes the bike is 3 lbs heavier than the 2012 model at 234lbs. And that is with the new 2 lb lighter forks with no springs. The Yamaha is 237, Kawi 239, KTM 240, and Suzuki 242.

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11/9/2012 12:30 PM

Brent wrote:

Pro Circuit appears to be fishing for casual vet riders with disposable income and low self esteem.

They will sell lots of ...more

Sad, but this guy is right

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11/9/2012 12:33 PM

DownSouth wrote:

I just got the new MXA in my mailbox. MXA's quote regarding twin pipes from their bike test...

"Q: What is MXA's opinion of ...more

I think that the durability and more parts statement is bullshit.

I had 2006, 2008, 2009 CRF250R's with at least 100 hours on each. I ran stock exhaust and crashed plenty, bent subframes and whatnot, but never had to replace any of the exhaust parts.

If anything they don't stick out and get mangled in a crash or collision during a race.

Plus the dual muffler unit is all one piece, so if a single falls off a dual would have to lose twice as many bolts to fall off.

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