Floyd Landis w/ choice words for WADA - pod

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6/2/2018 10:41 PM
Edited Date/Time: 6/2/2018 10:42 PM

https://cyclingtips.com/2018/05/cyclingtips-podcast-froome-wins-pink-floyd-defines-doing-a-landis/

starts at 42 min.

basically says the IOC created WADA to save face and that at the end of the day, WADA/IOC would cover up child r4pe if it meant looking good.

says they dont really care about fixing doping in sport, only taking down a guy or two every so often to make it look like sport is clean and they are doing their jobs. they'd rather take down and demonize lance as an isolated case than tackle the systemic doping incentives and culture.

not all of this applies to moto, obviously, but it's refreshing to hear an informed opinion outside the standard narrative that WADA is above board and principally concerned about clean sport.

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6/2/2018 10:44 PM
Edited Date/Time: 6/2/2018 10:45 PM

Well Fred Landis has all the creditably in the world now doesn't he. blush
if Fred Landis said the sky was blue, I would go look for myself.

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Ed Johnson

6/2/2018 11:16 PM

lostboy819 wrote:

Well Fred Landis has all the creditably in the world now doesn't he. blush
if Fred Landis said the sky was blue, I would go look for myself.

Fred?

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6/2/2018 11:30 PM

That Fred Landis, he's such a cheater!

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I ripped a start from Egypt and I was happy about that.

6/2/2018 11:54 PM

How about Floyd. blush I work with a Fred Landis

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Ed Johnson

6/3/2018 7:17 AM

lostboy819 wrote:

How about Floyd. blush I work with a Fred Landis

Your Fred dopes as well. cool

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“Let the Good Times Roll”

6/3/2018 7:52 AM

I implore you to watch ‘Icarus’ on Netflix
Brilliant documentary on doping and the what can be covered up.

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6/3/2018 8:23 AM

When WADA will come up with a 4 years ban on Tickle, I think everyone in 250 SX will understand they should use the hard stuffs directly.

If you get caught on the highway at 80.02mph and the ticket is $1.000.000 anyway, at least get caught at 200mph and make $2.000.000 more before instead.

That is really pityfull to see this system is actually encouraging real doping whereas they are supposed to make the sports clean.

Having no scale of punishment and the potential choices resulting this is really something that must be brought up to them.

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6/3/2018 8:29 AM

What chainchatter said. I can’t beleive that documentary wasn’t brought up sooner. I will never look at WADA the same. Their a joke.

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6/3/2018 8:48 AM

A guy that got caught cheating criticises the organisation that catches/punishes cheaters?.....sounds familiar.

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6/3/2018 8:51 AM

Question wrote:

When WADA will come up with a 4 years ban on Tickle, I think everyone in 250 SX will understand they should use the hard stuffs directly.

If you get caught on the highway at 80.02mph and the ticket is $1.000.000 anyway, at least get caught at 200mph and make $2.000.000 more before instead.

That is really pityfull to see this system is actually encouraging real doping whereas they are supposed to make the sports clean.

Having no scale of punishment and the potential choices resulting this is really something that must be brought up to them.

Or read the rulebook and speed limit signs, or deal the penalties. Gonna pay to play.

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6/3/2018 8:57 AM

Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.

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6/3/2018 8:58 AM

Question wrote:

When WADA will come up with a 4 years ban on Tickle, I think everyone in 250 SX will understand they should use the hard stuffs directly.

If you get caught on the highway at 80.02mph and the ticket is $1.000.000 anyway, at least get caught at 200mph and make $2.000.000 more before instead.

That is really pityfull to see this system is actually encouraging real doping whereas they are supposed to make the sports clean.

Having no scale of punishment and the potential choices resulting this is really something that must be brought up to them.

Except when the contract states you have to pay back if caught

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6/3/2018 9:36 AM

Floyd knows.

He and lance got thru tests because of lance . When he switched teams lance turned him in.

Same to tyler.

I figure broc pissed someone off and he got screwed.

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6/3/2018 9:54 AM

Question wrote:

When WADA will come up with a 4 years ban on Tickle, I think everyone in 250 SX will understand they should use the hard stuffs directly.

If you get caught on the highway at 80.02mph and the ticket is $1.000.000 anyway, at least get caught at 200mph and make $2.000.000 more before instead.

That is really pityfull to see this system is actually encouraging real doping whereas they are supposed to make the sports clean.

Having no scale of punishment and the potential choices resulting this is really something that must be brought up to them.

JRT812 wrote:

Except when the contract states you have to pay back if caught

True, but only the year you get caught in 450, so actually the strategy can remain;
- charge you as much as possible to be upfront and possibly win multiple races in 250SX
- do not dope during the nationals or play the injury card / nagging injury that need to be fixed
- then, if it works out with a couple SX titles (and $, but forced to move up),
- you land a factory ride (and still big $) and just say the 450 class is tough.

Obviously the results outdoor and the results in 450 will be much lower than your riding, but any rider that can win 250 SX are making good money.

That is why no scale of punishment is very dangerous for the sport and the rider's safety, as a rider that is highly charged can be dangerous for themselves and for others, bad for their long term health of course, but also, as it looks like only money talks, bad for the factories as they can believe they sign a prodigy whereas it is far from reality.

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