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First Look: 2019 Honda CRF Motocross, XC, Off-Road, and Dual Sport:

Honda finally has a 450 dual sport bike, the CRF450L and a Works Edition/Ken Roczen CRF450R.

https://www.vitalmx.com/features/First-Look-2019-Honda-CRF-Motocross-XC…
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G-man 5/23/2018 9:00am
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Well better late than never.
There about 18 yrs BEHIND KTM for finally developing a legitimate Dual Sport, but dang 289lbs ready to ride! Woohoo

Then the race replica also out of KTM's playbook...

This is not a bash as I'm a Honda fan, glad to see they are finally opening their eyes to see a large segment of the off-road mkt they have not been selling to. Smile

Thanks for the post ML.
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colintrax 5/23/2018 9:01am
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I think the fuel tanks are backwards. 2 gallon titanium tank on the dual sport and enduro bikes, but 2.3 gallon plastic tank on the hare scramble?
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G-man wrote:
Well better late than never. There about 18 yrs BEHIND KTM for finally developing a legitimate Dual Sport, but dang 289lbs ready to ride! :woohoo: Then...
Well better late than never.
There about 18 yrs BEHIND KTM for finally developing a legitimate Dual Sport, but dang 289lbs ready to ride! Woohoo

Then the race replica also out of KTM's playbook...

This is not a bash as I'm a Honda fan, glad to see they are finally opening their eyes to see a large segment of the off-road mkt they have not been selling to. Smile

Thanks for the post ML.
You ever see an xr600?

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G-man wrote:
Well better late than never. There about 18 yrs BEHIND KTM for finally developing a legitimate Dual Sport, but dang 289lbs ready to ride! :woohoo: Then...
Well better late than never.
There about 18 yrs BEHIND KTM for finally developing a legitimate Dual Sport, but dang 289lbs ready to ride! Woohoo

Then the race replica also out of KTM's playbook...

This is not a bash as I'm a Honda fan, glad to see they are finally opening their eyes to see a large segment of the off-road mkt they have not been selling to. Smile

Thanks for the post ML.
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You ever see an xr600?
Of course, my buddy rides one in our Dual Sport events, but I would not put that bike in the same category as a KTM500 EXC, would you? Dry
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seth505 5/23/2018 10:29am
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Nice, the headlight and blinkers actually don't make it look like garbage! Great to have options other than KTM for offroad stuff though it does still seem like a tank compared to my exc-f.
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peelout 5/23/2018 10:57am
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so does the X have an actual offroad transmission? i would have bought an '18 RX if it wasn't the moto tranny.
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peelout wrote:
so does the X have an actual offroad transmission? i would have bought an '18 RX if it wasn't the moto tranny.
The CRF450X has a wide-ratio six-speed transmission.

The CRF450RX has a 5 speed transmission.
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peelout wrote:
so does the X have an actual offroad transmission? i would have bought an '18 RX if it wasn't the moto tranny.
It does.
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peelout 5/23/2018 11:08am
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yeah just read that, i asked before reading.

but no kick-starter? that's been my biggest beef with the new KTM and Husky off-roaders. who wants to be 100 miles from the nearest city/station/public-road and have an electrical issue? i love e-start and it's pretty much mandatory offroad, but there should still be a kick.

any idea if it can be converted to a kick like the '18?
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peelout wrote:
yeah just read that, i asked before reading. but no kick-starter? that's been my biggest beef with the new KTM and Husky off-roaders. who wants to...
yeah just read that, i asked before reading.

but no kick-starter? that's been my biggest beef with the new KTM and Husky off-roaders. who wants to be 100 miles from the nearest city/station/public-road and have an electrical issue? i love e-start and it's pretty much mandatory offroad, but there should still be a kick.

any idea if it can be converted to a kick like the '18?
As soon as they release the parts breakdown of the X I will be able to tell you Peely. I have a feeling you will be able to if it shares the R cases.
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peelout wrote:
yeah just read that, i asked before reading. but no kick-starter? that's been my biggest beef with the new KTM and Husky off-roaders. who wants to...
yeah just read that, i asked before reading.

but no kick-starter? that's been my biggest beef with the new KTM and Husky off-roaders. who wants to be 100 miles from the nearest city/station/public-road and have an electrical issue? i love e-start and it's pretty much mandatory offroad, but there should still be a kick.

any idea if it can be converted to a kick like the '18?
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As soon as they release the parts breakdown of the X I will be able to tell you Peely. I have a feeling you will be...
As soon as they release the parts breakdown of the X I will be able to tell you Peely. I have a feeling you will be able to if it shares the R cases.
The R and RX have new frame / cases and the kickstart plug is gone.

It appears that the X and L are using the older (current) cases and frame so maybe you'll have that option. It's hard to tell from the pics whats behind that black outer cover on the X and L.
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GoonSquad250x 5/23/2018 11:59am
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I'm very excited about the 450L & the 450X for that matter. I've been on a 350exc the past 2 years & will never not have a tag again. Ive got intergrated blinkers that cant even bee seen so my bike still looks & feels like an enduro bike + I’m legal to hit forestry roads & the tarmac when needed!
Herb Eaversmells 5/23/2018 12:04pm
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Finally a manufactory that makes a bitchen dual sport and a MX bike you don't have to buy a bunch of extra's, (special editions race model). Can't believe a manufactory has done that.BlinkBlinkBlink
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MX915 wrote:
The R and RX have new frame / cases and the kickstart plug is gone. It appears that the X and L are using the older...
The R and RX have new frame / cases and the kickstart plug is gone.

It appears that the X and L are using the older (current) cases and frame so maybe you'll have that option. It's hard to tell from the pics whats behind that black outer cover on the X and L.
LOL, I was doing the same thing trying to blow it up on my screen but couldn't get a good look at it. Here in my world the E-start is nice but in the winter months guys want a back up kickstart for the snow bike season. So I have been already getting questions on the kick start idea. Geez people, it's been release for 3 hours now, how much info am I supposed to have on it!?!

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Did anyone see the weight of these things? Wow are they heavy!!!!! The 450L model is 289# without any fluids. Compete with KTM/Husky????
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Mx746 5/23/2018 12:09pm
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If the Honda flameout problems are really and truly a thing of the past, (not just slightly improved over previous years) I may have to consider a 19.
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MX915 wrote:
The R and RX have new frame / cases and the kickstart plug is gone. It appears that the X and L are using the older...
The R and RX have new frame / cases and the kickstart plug is gone.

It appears that the X and L are using the older (current) cases and frame so maybe you'll have that option. It's hard to tell from the pics whats behind that black outer cover on the X and L.
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LOL, I was doing the same thing trying to blow it up on my screen but couldn't get a good look at it. Here in my...
LOL, I was doing the same thing trying to blow it up on my screen but couldn't get a good look at it. Here in my world the E-start is nice but in the winter months guys want a back up kickstart for the snow bike season. So I have been already getting questions on the kick start idea. Geez people, it's been release for 3 hours now, how much info am I supposed to have on it!?!
dammit bro, WE NEED TO KNOW!!!

first thing i did was zoom in on to see if the plug was there. almost bought an RX for snowbiking and held off to see if the new X was going to actually be released. i've heard about this bike for a couple years now and have been waiting. if it has the plug to convert to a kick i'll be buying one this October.

you have any hook-up Ryno?
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MelonFan123 5/23/2018 12:43pm
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ama530 wrote:
Did anyone see the weight of these things? Wow are they heavy!!!!! The 450L model is 289# without any fluids. Compete with KTM/Husky????
Honda is 289 wet, meaning ready to ride. KTM/Husky's are just a tad over 260 I believe.

Knock off a bunch of the oversized guards and replace that huge muffler on the Honda and they aren't far off.
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endurox 5/23/2018 12:52pm
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Question is how quickly a bigger tank will be available for the 450 dual sporter. So now have Beta, KTM/Husky, Alta and Honda with modern dual sport options.
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Zachintosh 5/23/2018 12:56pm
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That 450L is the bike I’ve been waiting for (and about three of my friends).
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Johnny Depp 5/23/2018 1:27pm
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Congratulations to Honda for speaking with their wallet and putting out a very complete model lineup of dirt bikes!
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peelout wrote:
dammit bro, WE NEED TO KNOW!!! first thing i did was zoom in on to see if the plug was there. almost bought an RX for...
dammit bro, WE NEED TO KNOW!!!

first thing i did was zoom in on to see if the plug was there. almost bought an RX for snowbiking and held off to see if the new X was going to actually be released. i've heard about this bike for a couple years now and have been waiting. if it has the plug to convert to a kick i'll be buying one this October.

you have any hook-up Ryno?
I'm the service manager at a Honda dealer about 6 hours away from you. When it comes time for a snow bike call me. We do Honda 450's with the Timbersled ARO packages all day long bruddy.
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Ryno23 5/23/2018 2:10pm
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lourencobcardoso wrote:
is the new 450X Fi or does it have a carb ? can't tell from the pictures
FI.

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