First Impressions on the Alta Motors Redshift MXR

Titan1 wrote:

If they can get the range up to 3 hours, without sacrificing power and get the price of batteries down and easy to change (like under...

If they can get the range up to 3 hours, without sacrificing power and get the price of batteries down and easy to change (like under 5 minutes to change batteries). .I’d certainly consider one.

If they offered a cheaper KTM freeride type bike...Id consider one for a second bike just for playing around on.

Titan1 wrote:

If they can get the range up to 3 hours, without sacrificing power and get the price of batteries down and easy to change (like under...

If they can get the range up to 3 hours, without sacrificing power and get the price of batteries down and easy to change (like under 5 minutes to change batteries). .I’d certainly consider one.

If they offered a cheaper KTM freeride type bike...Id consider one for a second bike just for playing around on.

Titan1 wrote:

If they can get the range up to 3 hours, without sacrificing power and get the price of batteries down and easy to change (like under...

If they can get the range up to 3 hours, without sacrificing power and get the price of batteries down and easy to change (like under 5 minutes to change batteries). .I’d certainly consider one.

If they offered a cheaper KTM freeride type bike...Id consider one for a second bike just for playing around on.

zehn wrote:

Those are literally impossible standards

Titan1 wrote:

If they can get the range up to 3 hours, without sacrificing power and get the price of batteries down and easy to change (like under...

If they can get the range up to 3 hours, without sacrificing power and get the price of batteries down and easy to change (like under 5 minutes to change batteries). .I’d certainly consider one.

If they offered a cheaper KTM freeride type bike...Id consider one for a second bike just for playing around on.

early wrote:

If you ride in the desert keep your gas bike. It will be a long time before an electric is right for you. If you ride...

If you ride in the desert keep your gas bike. It will be a long time before an electric is right for you. If you ride on 10 acres behind your house the bike is just about perfect now.

Frank wrote:

The sound of the bike is so massively uninspiring it could win races without me on it and I would not buy one. Sorry. Thanks for...

The sound of the bike is so massively uninspiring it could win races without me on it and I would not buy one. Sorry. Thanks for the laugh. It would make a great backyard track bike if they can get the price under $999.

KooyaKooya wrote:

They should make a "track only" version of this bike that uses a small battery that is quick and easy to change out. That way you...

They should make a "track only" version of this bike that uses a small battery that is quick and easy to change out. That way you would have less weight to drag around on the track (maybe like 25lbs less if the battery was half the current size?), and a couple spare batteries on the charger back at the truck ready to swap over between motos.

Titan1 wrote:

If they can get the range up to 3 hours, without sacrificing power and get the price of batteries down and easy to change (like under...

If they can get the range up to 3 hours, without sacrificing power and get the price of batteries down and easy to change (like under 5 minutes to change batteries). .I’d certainly consider one.

If they offered a cheaper KTM freeride type bike...Id consider one for a second bike just for playing around on.

zehn wrote:

Those are literally impossible standards

Frank wrote:

The sound of the bike is so massively uninspiring it could win races without me on it and I would not buy one. Sorry. Thanks for...

The sound of the bike is so massively uninspiring it could win races without me on it and I would not buy one. Sorry. Thanks for the laugh. It would make a great backyard track bike if they can get the price under $999.

Titan1 wrote:

If they can get the range up to 3 hours, without sacrificing power and get the price of batteries down and easy to change (like under...

If they can get the range up to 3 hours, without sacrificing power and get the price of batteries down and easy to change (like under 5 minutes to change batteries). .I’d certainly consider one.

If they offered a cheaper KTM freeride type bike...Id consider one for a second bike just for playing around on.

zehn wrote:

Those are literally impossible standards

Lightning78 wrote:

Then it'll be impossible for me to justify getting one....not because it takes me 3 hours to burn through a tank of premix but because you...

Then it'll be impossible for me to justify getting one....not because it takes me 3 hours to burn through a tank of premix but because you also have to factor in recharging and that takes away from a good ride in the hills or even a long day of Moto. Where I could burn 2 tanks of gas theoretically but in order for me to be back out on the trail or track I'm down just long enough for the time it takes to pour the premises from my jug into the tank.

Plus I see a lot of guys talking about not having to shift or use the clutch which to me is part of the fun of being a skilled dirtbike rider .... For beginners just mastering the clutch and ESPECIALLY the shifting and shifting at the right points is a part the separates us from some random donkey that gets on the Alta and twists grip, sure they'll be outta control but my interpretation is that it takes away from the small things that are required to ride a dirtbike fast and as those almost subconscious actions are mastered you become a better rider..... I love manipulating the clutch to make the bike do things you can't really pull off without it like coming out of a tight corner and slipping the clutch just enough to drop the clutch right in the pocket of the jump which will load the bikes suspension similar to a seat bounce or give a little more "English" to your seat bounce giving you more pop to get over a jump. Also slightly slipping the clutch out of a corner that has a big hole from a blown out rut or something like that and just feathering it will let the suspension work a lot smoother to where I wouldn't even feel the same hole that was jackhammering my back without a little slippage.
Grabbing gears is also something I'll Always enjoy especially on a bike with some incredible power as it feels metaphorically like reloading a cannon and on a 125, tap dancing on the shifter if done correctly will always allow you to go faster.

For me these are things about riding a dirtbikes that some find annoying and an inconvenience but it all comes together making me feel good when I'm executing everything correctly and flowing around a track and it's especially important if you're a 2 stroke rider. FOR ME if you take away those aspects then regardless how much "fun" the Alta is, I'm not going to be having as much fun riding any dirtbikes. Don't get me wrong any time on 2 wheels is better than sex lol and losing these traits had a lot to do with why I didnt enjoy riding 4 strokes as well as the fundamentals got so much easier I was forgetting those basic things about maintaining speed and flowing rather than stop point and shoot.

It's kind of like 200 yard target practice with a rifle....they make a scope that adjusts for everything now and it's "smart" (I forgot the name of the scope or company) but basically you don't even have to aim and from 1000yards can hit the bullseye every time not even being sighted in with the cross hairs far from perfect and the scope adjusts for you so you're able to shoot perfect every time....what's the fun in that? It takes away the skill that separates a good marksman from Joe Flipper-Head that points the rifle in the vicinity of the target and nails it every time.

I hope some of my metaphors make sense as to why I don't think I'd ever truly enjoy an Alta enough to want to own one....I thrive on the difficulty of not only mastering riding the bike but also the small idiosyncrasies that come with the challenge of riding a dirtbike fast as my talent will allow me to go.

Titan1 wrote:

If they can get the range up to 3 hours, without sacrificing power and get the price of batteries down and easy to change (like under...

If they can get the range up to 3 hours, without sacrificing power and get the price of batteries down and easy to change (like under 5 minutes to change batteries). .I’d certainly consider one.

If they offered a cheaper KTM freeride type bike...Id consider one for a second bike just for playing around on.

zehn wrote:

Those are literally impossible standards

Lightning78 wrote:

Then it'll be impossible for me to justify getting one....not because it takes me 3 hours to burn through a tank of premix but because you...

Then it'll be impossible for me to justify getting one....not because it takes me 3 hours to burn through a tank of premix but because you also have to factor in recharging and that takes away from a good ride in the hills or even a long day of Moto. Where I could burn 2 tanks of gas theoretically but in order for me to be back out on the trail or track I'm down just long enough for the time it takes to pour the premises from my jug into the tank.

Plus I see a lot of guys talking about not having to shift or use the clutch which to me is part of the fun of being a skilled dirtbike rider .... For beginners just mastering the clutch and ESPECIALLY the shifting and shifting at the right points is a part the separates us from some random donkey that gets on the Alta and twists grip, sure they'll be outta control but my interpretation is that it takes away from the small things that are required to ride a dirtbike fast and as those almost subconscious actions are mastered you become a better rider..... I love manipulating the clutch to make the bike do things you can't really pull off without it like coming out of a tight corner and slipping the clutch just enough to drop the clutch right in the pocket of the jump which will load the bikes suspension similar to a seat bounce or give a little more "English" to your seat bounce giving you more pop to get over a jump. Also slightly slipping the clutch out of a corner that has a big hole from a blown out rut or something like that and just feathering it will let the suspension work a lot smoother to where I wouldn't even feel the same hole that was jackhammering my back without a little slippage.
Grabbing gears is also something I'll Always enjoy especially on a bike with some incredible power as it feels metaphorically like reloading a cannon and on a 125, tap dancing on the shifter if done correctly will always allow you to go faster.

For me these are things about riding a dirtbikes that some find annoying and an inconvenience but it all comes together making me feel good when I'm executing everything correctly and flowing around a track and it's especially important if you're a 2 stroke rider. FOR ME if you take away those aspects then regardless how much "fun" the Alta is, I'm not going to be having as much fun riding any dirtbikes. Don't get me wrong any time on 2 wheels is better than sex lol and losing these traits had a lot to do with why I didnt enjoy riding 4 strokes as well as the fundamentals got so much easier I was forgetting those basic things about maintaining speed and flowing rather than stop point and shoot.

It's kind of like 200 yard target practice with a rifle....they make a scope that adjusts for everything now and it's "smart" (I forgot the name of the scope or company) but basically you don't even have to aim and from 1000yards can hit the bullseye every time not even being sighted in with the cross hairs far from perfect and the scope adjusts for you so you're able to shoot perfect every time....what's the fun in that? It takes away the skill that separates a good marksman from Joe Flipper-Head that points the rifle in the vicinity of the target and nails it every time.

I hope some of my metaphors make sense as to why I don't think I'd ever truly enjoy an Alta enough to want to own one....I thrive on the difficulty of not only mastering riding the bike but also the small idiosyncrasies that come with the challenge of riding a dirtbike fast as my talent will allow me to go.

Titan1 wrote:

If they can get the range up to 3 hours, without sacrificing power and get the price of batteries down and easy to change (like under...

If they can get the range up to 3 hours, without sacrificing power and get the price of batteries down and easy to change (like under 5 minutes to change batteries). .I’d certainly consider one.

If they offered a cheaper KTM freeride type bike...Id consider one for a second bike just for playing around on.

zehn wrote:

Those are literally impossible standards

Lightning78 wrote:

Then it'll be impossible for me to justify getting one....not because it takes me 3 hours to burn through a tank of premix but because you...

Then it'll be impossible for me to justify getting one....not because it takes me 3 hours to burn through a tank of premix but because you also have to factor in recharging and that takes away from a good ride in the hills or even a long day of Moto. Where I could burn 2 tanks of gas theoretically but in order for me to be back out on the trail or track I'm down just long enough for the time it takes to pour the premises from my jug into the tank.

Plus I see a lot of guys talking about not having to shift or use the clutch which to me is part of the fun of being a skilled dirtbike rider .... For beginners just mastering the clutch and ESPECIALLY the shifting and shifting at the right points is a part the separates us from some random donkey that gets on the Alta and twists grip, sure they'll be outta control but my interpretation is that it takes away from the small things that are required to ride a dirtbike fast and as those almost subconscious actions are mastered you become a better rider..... I love manipulating the clutch to make the bike do things you can't really pull off without it like coming out of a tight corner and slipping the clutch just enough to drop the clutch right in the pocket of the jump which will load the bikes suspension similar to a seat bounce or give a little more "English" to your seat bounce giving you more pop to get over a jump. Also slightly slipping the clutch out of a corner that has a big hole from a blown out rut or something like that and just feathering it will let the suspension work a lot smoother to where I wouldn't even feel the same hole that was jackhammering my back without a little slippage.
Grabbing gears is also something I'll Always enjoy especially on a bike with some incredible power as it feels metaphorically like reloading a cannon and on a 125, tap dancing on the shifter if done correctly will always allow you to go faster.

For me these are things about riding a dirtbikes that some find annoying and an inconvenience but it all comes together making me feel good when I'm executing everything correctly and flowing around a track and it's especially important if you're a 2 stroke rider. FOR ME if you take away those aspects then regardless how much "fun" the Alta is, I'm not going to be having as much fun riding any dirtbikes. Don't get me wrong any time on 2 wheels is better than sex lol and losing these traits had a lot to do with why I didnt enjoy riding 4 strokes as well as the fundamentals got so much easier I was forgetting those basic things about maintaining speed and flowing rather than stop point and shoot.

It's kind of like 200 yard target practice with a rifle....they make a scope that adjusts for everything now and it's "smart" (I forgot the name of the scope or company) but basically you don't even have to aim and from 1000yards can hit the bullseye every time not even being sighted in with the cross hairs far from perfect and the scope adjusts for you so you're able to shoot perfect every time....what's the fun in that? It takes away the skill that separates a good marksman from Joe Flipper-Head that points the rifle in the vicinity of the target and nails it every time.

I hope some of my metaphors make sense as to why I don't think I'd ever truly enjoy an Alta enough to want to own one....I thrive on the difficulty of not only mastering riding the bike but also the small idiosyncrasies that come with the challenge of riding a dirtbike fast as my talent will allow me to go.