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crowe176 1/18/2020 10:19pm
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If DF didn’t have motivation to get better starts before, he does now.
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resik307 1/18/2020 10:19pm
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DF went full into him while Craig was already in the turn. DF could have left off and made a clean pass next turn.
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Racer111 wrote:
Wrong! If you don’t start handing out penalties for moves like that, someone is going to wind up paralyzed or worse. Fact!
jemcee wrote:
How is a prediction a fact?
There’s quite a few people on this board who need to download dictionary.com and bookmark the definitions of fact and opinion.
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WhatsStoppingU 1/18/2020 10:21pm
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Dirtydeeds wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/01/18/398899/s1200_4E7800A6_6488_41C9_B1E9_64A174EB89D5.jpg[/img]

You never had a #1 plate Cole Seely, so don’t be whining that Ferrandis took your number. The guy that had it before you did, so where does that leave you? You are the one that didn’t do the # justice.
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jeffro503 1/18/2020 10:21pm
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I'm not going to comment on the actual case in hand......but just wanted to take a step back and look at things in a whole.

So weird seeing the comments from guys , as it can shift from week to week. Everyone's hero or some guy they just respected the hell out of , can be hated by people the following week. I'm not talking about Dylan , I'm talking about all the riders. Hero to zero to hero and back and forth , round and round. Kinda crazy.
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aFACEdismembered wrote:
Poorly timed but racing incident. Tuff Blok made it more violent looking. Osborne won a championship with worse. Change my mind.
dkg wrote:
Craig was hit mid-bike. There was never any possibility of Ferrandis ever successfully completing the pass. I guess it depends on what you call a racing...
Craig was hit mid-bike. There was never any possibility of Ferrandis ever successfully completing the pass. I guess it depends on what you call a racing incident. Too me a t-bone collision doesn’t qualify.
aFACEdismembered wrote:
How does one t-bone in a 90 degree corner going the same direction as the other rider? You mean v-bone? He was never going to make...
How does one t-bone in a 90 degree corner going the same direction as the other rider? You mean v-bone? He was never going to make the pass there. Bad judgement for sure. We've all done it. That's what makes it a racing incident. I doubt he planned on taking them both out to make the pass.
Yeah v-bone is a better description. It wasn’t a 90 degree impact. Probably something in the area of 45 degrees. I guess I hold the pros to a higher level of judgment. Difficult to reconcile this one and the black flagging of Reed. But then many of the AMA decisions are difficult to reconcile.
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Danster 1/18/2020 10:22pm
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USA riders need to put on the big boy pants!
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Nighttrain 1/18/2020 10:23pm
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Motofinne wrote:
I'm with Steve with this one. That move was insane and Ferrandis didn't probably think at all but it would be wrong to hand out penalties...
I'm with Steve with this one. That move was insane and Ferrandis didn't probably think at all but it would be wrong to hand out penalties for moves like that. That is a very slippery slope.



Racer111 wrote:
Wrong! If you don’t start handing out penalties for moves like that, someone is going to wind up paralyzed or worse. Fact!
Are you new to this sport of Supercross? Please watch the many YouTube vids of SX races in the 90’s. And a few of Reed/Carmichael/James Stewart battles.
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ZI72 1/18/2020 10:24pm
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ZI72 wrote:
Oh? So DF riding hard into the line, making wheel to wheel contact with a SLOWER rider...is now dirty...please if Elito did that he would a...
Oh? So DF riding hard into the line, making wheel to wheel contact with a SLOWER rider...is now dirty...please if Elito did that he would a savior...
Racer111 wrote:
Show me the wheel to wheel contact here, Dudley Dumbshit. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/01/18/398908/s1200_CA44BBC1_AE69_4693_B4F6_5382B089EA4B.jpg[/img]
Show me the wheel to wheel contact here, Dudley Dumbshit.

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GODZILLA 1/18/2020 10:25pm
1/18/2020 10:25pm
Dumb move...
He'd have gotten the exact same result with a clean race.
And now he has a target on his back...

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aFACEdismembered 1/18/2020 10:25pm
1/18/2020 10:25pm
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Dirty move. AMA blows another call. They should have docked him AT LEAST what they docked Forkner for cutting the track. And put a :( on...
Dirty move. AMA blows another call. They should have docked him AT LEAST what they docked Forkner for cutting the track. And put a Sad on his passport.
Yea! Because track cutting and taking yourself out to lose time are totally the same thing. Huh
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Scott_Bate 1/18/2020 10:25pm
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Ferrandis wants it bad, he was aggressive for sure but that is racing. Go DF ✊
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APerry151 1/18/2020 10:26pm
1/18/2020 10:26pm Edited Date/Time 1/18/2020 10:36pm
Ferrandis pulled a lot of scumbag moves tonight, period.

And for those of you trying to justify them—just stop. He had no chance of making the pass on Craig. He damn near sawed Jett’s front end off twice, then came an inch from colliding in the air with him over the triple.

These things have a way of sorting themselves out... won’t feel bad for him when it happens.
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Danster 1/18/2020 10:27pm
1/18/2020 10:27pm
USA riders need to put their big boys pants on!
Go watch the riders from the 80’s and 90’s
there was no crying, everything was taken care
of on the track!
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PBRvince 1/18/2020 10:27pm
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Don’t feel bad for Jett Lawrence sorry not sorry
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scott_nz 1/18/2020 10:27pm
1/18/2020 10:27pm Edited Date/Time 1/18/2020 10:32pm
Racer111 wrote:
Wrong! If you don’t start handing out penalties for moves like that, someone is going to wind up paralyzed or worse. Fact!
what would your penalty have been for Chad vs Stew at Atlanta, or any of the Bradshaw vs Chicken stuff?

this sort of move has never been penalised,
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ctbale 1/18/2020 10:27pm
1/18/2020 10:27pm Edited Date/Time 1/18/2020 10:30pm
ctbale wrote:
Dirty move. AMA blows another call. They should have docked him AT LEAST what they docked Forkner for cutting the track. And put a :( on...
Dirty move. AMA blows another call. They should have docked him AT LEAST what they docked Forkner for cutting the track. And put a Sad on his passport.
aFACEdismembered wrote:
Yea! Because track cutting and taking yourself out to lose time are totally the same thing. Huh
You think he intended to take himself out?
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jock 1/18/2020 10:28pm
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kongols wrote:
Awesome thread. For a bunch of tough guys you sure act like a bunch of pussies. If the roles was reversed, Craig would be all american...
Awesome thread. For a bunch of tough guys you sure act like a bunch of pussies.
If the roles was reversed, Craig would be all american hero.
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5 words?
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mxpro252 1/18/2020 10:28pm
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I liked ferrandis, until tonight. Wtf was that?
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Villo2fan 1/18/2020 10:29pm
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Villo2fan wrote:
Was never really here nor there on the Ferrandis front. Officially think he’s a douche now and we were booing with the crowd here in my...
Was never really here nor there on the Ferrandis front. Officially think he’s a douche now and we were booing with the crowd here in my house. I hope Craig ruins his title hopes next chance he gets
Mr. Afterbar wrote:
He already didn’t get along with his teammate and now he pissed off everybody else also. Can’t wait for a little karma. Unfortunately, Cooper is the...
He already didn’t get along with his teammate and now he pissed off everybody else also. Can’t wait for a little karma. Unfortunately, Cooper is the only one who really has a chance at the title now after Dylan went full re-re.
Yep. It was a douche move. I don’t wish any actual harm to the guy, we have all seen worse. I just hope Craig and the rest give him a taste of his own. I like poetic justice. Also, super bummed for Jett. I was hoping he’d pull it off. What a quick turn of events not only crashing but getting hurt. I hope this doesn’t derail him mentally. Big fan of the kid
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aFACEdismembered 1/18/2020 10:30pm
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dkg wrote:
Craig was hit mid-bike. There was never any possibility of Ferrandis ever successfully completing the pass. I guess it depends on what you call a racing...
Craig was hit mid-bike. There was never any possibility of Ferrandis ever successfully completing the pass. I guess it depends on what you call a racing incident. Too me a t-bone collision doesn’t qualify.
aFACEdismembered wrote:
How does one t-bone in a 90 degree corner going the same direction as the other rider? You mean v-bone? He was never going to make...
How does one t-bone in a 90 degree corner going the same direction as the other rider? You mean v-bone? He was never going to make the pass there. Bad judgement for sure. We've all done it. That's what makes it a racing incident. I doubt he planned on taking them both out to make the pass.
dkg wrote:
Yeah v-bone is a better description. It wasn’t a 90 degree impact. Probably something in the area of 45 degrees. I guess I hold the pros...
Yeah v-bone is a better description. It wasn’t a 90 degree impact. Probably something in the area of 45 degrees. I guess I hold the pros to a higher level of judgment. Difficult to reconcile this one and the black flagging of Reed. But then many of the AMA decisions are difficult to reconcile.
Fractions of a second regardless of the ability level. Once you decide to commit there's no going back.
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jeffro503 wrote:
I'm not going to comment on the actual case in hand......but just wanted to take a step back and look at things in a whole. So...
I'm not going to comment on the actual case in hand......but just wanted to take a step back and look at things in a whole.

So weird seeing the comments from guys , as it can shift from week to week. Everyone's hero or some guy they just respected the hell out of , can be hated by people the following week. I'm not talking about Dylan , I'm talking about all the riders. Hero to zero to hero and back and forth , round and round. Kinda crazy.
It’s not just Vital, that’s people as a whole. We focus on the negatives and shout about how much we hate things.
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mattyhamz2 1/18/2020 10:30pm
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I recall a lot of dudes on here saying if one guy goes down it wasn’t dirty, but if both went down it was dirty.
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WhatsStoppingU wrote:
You never had a #1 plate Cole Seely, so don’t be whining that Ferrandis took your number. The guy that had it before you did, so...
You never had a #1 plate Cole Seely, so don’t be whining that Ferrandis took your number. The guy that had it before you did, so where does that leave you? You are the one that didn’t do the # justice.
Dude. Shut up. Seely won a 450 main. He justified having any career number.
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Talisker 1/18/2020 10:31pm
1/18/2020 10:31pm Edited Date/Time 1/18/2020 10:35pm
Man, Glad we didn’t have social media in the 90’s. Dylan set up for the pass on the jump. Did their lines come together? Yes. Did Craig get the ugly end of it? Yes. Was it dirty? No.
Racing has become “pussified”!!! No one wants to touch each other and when it happens, someone cries.
We need more aggressive racing.
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FerCzD 1/18/2020 10:31pm
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Dirtydeeds wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/01/18/398899/s1200_4E7800A6_6488_41C9_B1E9_64A174EB89D5.jpg[/img]

WhatsStoppingU wrote:
You never had a #1 plate Cole Seely, so don’t be whining that Ferrandis took your number. The guy that had it before you did, so...
You never had a #1 plate Cole Seely, so don’t be whining that Ferrandis took your number. The guy that had it before you did, so where does that leave you? You are the one that didn’t do the # justice.
The willingness to do whatever it takes is why Ferrandis has a 250 championship and Cole was never able to make it happen, specially against Ando
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Superdave19 1/18/2020 10:31pm
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One thing’s for sure... it will make for an interesting race next wkd
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mx216 1/18/2020 10:32pm
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Yamaha finally got Honda back! https://youtu.be/l3EZEj6aEVQ

While i dont agree with the move, I fully understand it. All Christian had to do was not let him catch him and it never would have happened. A racing incident for sure, a very unfortunate one for christian. Christian didnt deserve what happened, but Dylan did deserve that win.
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