Ferrandis penalty

Motodave15 wrote:

Still a fan of ferrandis.... And winnings winning!! And the reason craig got spit off so hard was because of rear wheel to rear wheel contact.

deluxeman wrote:

Ferrandis is a punk. The move was really unnecessary, he had the speed to get him without destroying him. Craig is very lucky to escape without...

Ferrandis is a punk. The move was really unnecessary, he had the speed to get him without destroying him. Craig is very lucky to escape without a big injury. I hope Dylan gets a really good payback for this one, Craig owes him a huge T-bone for this.

MudPup545 wrote:

Detroit 2017 qualifiers.
Take a look at Craig’s move on Martin.
After watching it answer me this, is Craig a punk?

Ranman68 wrote:

I think Ferrandis did get overly aggressive and reckless, so the punishment is valid. I dont think what he did was unforgivable or rare by any...

I think Ferrandis did get overly aggressive and reckless, so the punishment is valid. I dont think what he did was unforgivable or rare by any stretch. In my opinion, Ferrandis just needs to realize that sometimes it's better to own it and give a sincere apology.....or at least make it look sincere. Just stop trying to make it ok or "not his fault". If he can do that, the fans will forgive and forget. If he doesnt do that, he's gonna catch more hell for longer. Some compare this to the incident between Osborn and Savatgy, but that isn't valid. This wasnt the final lap in the final race , and it wasnt for the title. Additionally, there was the incident with Jett Lawrence. It wasnt malicious, but one incident was over the top aggressive and the other incident was right after that (which makes it seem worse), and involving Jett Lawrence (who was a 16 year old kid who had just won everybody's heart). It was just bad all around. Not fully owning it and not apologizing was the wrong way to handle it if you dont want to get boo'd. That's just my opinion on this thing.

APLMAN99 wrote:

What incident with Jett are you talking about? He didn't do anything to Lawrence, in fact Lawrence attempted to rub Ferrandis a little bit it just...

What incident with Jett are you talking about? He didn't do anything to Lawrence, in fact Lawrence attempted to rub Ferrandis a little bit it just didn't work that well.

Dirty Points wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5cYM6SsvbA

TDeath21 wrote:

Thank you! Proves my statement perfectly.

harescrambled wrote:

Hardly....Zacho made the turn and rode away from it. When you see the head on shot, you can see Zacho's front wheel hit the rut. He...

Hardly....Zacho made the turn and rode away from it. When you see the head on shot, you can see Zacho's front wheel hit the rut. He had that turn made regardless whether Savatgy was there or not. The only reason Savatgy hit the deck is that his handlebars caught on Zacho's bike. Zach basically pulled Savatgys' bike out from under him

TDeath21 wrote:

Thank you! Proves my statement perfectly.

harescrambled wrote:

Hardly....Zacho made the turn and rode away from it. When you see the head on shot, you can see Zacho's front wheel hit the rut. He...

Hardly....Zacho made the turn and rode away from it. When you see the head on shot, you can see Zacho's front wheel hit the rut. He had that turn made regardless whether Savatgy was there or not. The only reason Savatgy hit the deck is that his handlebars caught on Zacho's bike. Zach basically pulled Savatgys' bike out from under him

TDeath21 wrote:

He made the turn because he pinned it into Savatgy, displacing him completely from the rut and placing himself there instead. He catches the rut because...

He made the turn because he pinned it into Savatgy, displacing him completely from the rut and placing himself there instead. He catches the rut because his momentum was stopped considerably when he smashes into Savatgy and the force is transferred to Savatgy so he flies up out of the rut and crashes. This isn’t rocket science. Without Savatgy there to slow Osborne considerably, he doesn’t catch that rut and ride away. As I said before it’s for a championship so it’s whatever but don’t try to say he was making that turn without Joey there.

harescrambled wrote:

Hardly....Zacho made the turn and rode away from it. When you see the head on shot, you can see Zacho's front wheel hit the rut. He...

Hardly....Zacho made the turn and rode away from it. When you see the head on shot, you can see Zacho's front wheel hit the rut. He had that turn made regardless whether Savatgy was there or not. The only reason Savatgy hit the deck is that his handlebars caught on Zacho's bike. Zach basically pulled Savatgys' bike out from under him

TDeath21 wrote:

He made the turn because he pinned it into Savatgy, displacing him completely from the rut and placing himself there instead. He catches the rut because...

He made the turn because he pinned it into Savatgy, displacing him completely from the rut and placing himself there instead. He catches the rut because his momentum was stopped considerably when he smashes into Savatgy and the force is transferred to Savatgy so he flies up out of the rut and crashes. This isn’t rocket science. Without Savatgy there to slow Osborne considerably, he doesn’t catch that rut and ride away. As I said before it’s for a championship so it’s whatever but don’t try to say he was making that turn without Joey there.

davistld01 wrote:

That move used to be called using someone for traction back in the 90's.

hippie wrote:

No one would care if this pass was for 10th. Dylan was the quickest dude in the class last night whether the haters want to accept...

No one would care if this pass was for 10th. Dylan was the quickest dude in the class last night whether the haters want to accept it or not. There’s been plenty worse in the past. Racing incident, line back up next weekend.

HawaiiRidesHard wrote:

This is all about AMA politics...officials were ready to call it a day....they would have never met to discuss a penalty without the reaction of the...

This is all about AMA politics...officials were ready to call it a day....they would have never met to discuss a penalty without the reaction of the fans during Ferrandis interview. Ive seen less agressive incidents in the past get docked points, positions, fines, etc. I bet it would be a different story all together if craig was wheeled away in a stretcher. Just because it seems he walked away fine from the incident they come out with this lame "probation" penalty. One guy gets a DNF and Ferrandis keeps his first place...ridiculous.

Momus wrote:

Lol. Ferrandis was in front -sliding it must be noted- when contact was made and Craig literally rode over the top of his bike because he...

Lol.

Ferrandis was in front -sliding it must be noted- when contact was made and Craig literally rode over the top of his bike because he was heemed in by the rut/berm side.

Just as much fault with CC for not rolling off for a charging rider he would have heard and seen.

robkinuk wrote:

So Ferrandis is now public enemy No 1, yet when Zac Osbourne took out Savatgy in Vegas for the title, it's all okay?????

hippie wrote:

No one would care if this pass was for 10th. Dylan was the quickest dude in the class last night whether the haters want to accept...

No one would care if this pass was for 10th. Dylan was the quickest dude in the class last night whether the haters want to accept it or not. There’s been plenty worse in the past. Racing incident, line back up next weekend.

Momus wrote:

DF won the race, yes. Lawrence had a faster average lap time and set the fastest race lap- only behind the #3, #4 and #94 in...

DF won the race, yes. Lawrence had a faster average lap time and set the fastest race lap- only behind the #3, #4 and #94 in the 450 class for fastest out right.

Lawrence also convincingly smoked Ferrandis in the heat.

Ranman68 wrote:

I think Ferrandis did get overly aggressive and reckless, so the punishment is valid. I dont think what he did was unforgivable or rare by any...

I think Ferrandis did get overly aggressive and reckless, so the punishment is valid. I dont think what he did was unforgivable or rare by any stretch. In my opinion, Ferrandis just needs to realize that sometimes it's better to own it and give a sincere apology.....or at least make it look sincere. Just stop trying to make it ok or "not his fault". If he can do that, the fans will forgive and forget. If he doesnt do that, he's gonna catch more hell for longer. Some compare this to the incident between Osborn and Savatgy, but that isn't valid. This wasnt the final lap in the final race , and it wasnt for the title. Additionally, there was the incident with Jett Lawrence. It wasnt malicious, but one incident was over the top aggressive and the other incident was right after that (which makes it seem worse), and involving Jett Lawrence (who was a 16 year old kid who had just won everybody's heart). It was just bad all around. Not fully owning it and not apologizing was the wrong way to handle it if you dont want to get boo'd. That's just my opinion on this thing.

APLMAN99 wrote:

What incident with Jett are you talking about? He didn't do anything to Lawrence, in fact Lawrence attempted to rub Ferrandis a little bit it just...

What incident with Jett are you talking about? He didn't do anything to Lawrence, in fact Lawrence attempted to rub Ferrandis a little bit it just didn't work that well.

Ranman68 wrote:

Yeah you're right about that. My error on the part with Lawrence.

APLMAN99 wrote:

The faster average lap time has already been disproven.....

steve.hackler.1 wrote:

Its supposed to be racing, not rollerball. If your faster make the pass without t-boning your opponent and taking him out. Cheap dirty move. Really makes...

Its supposed to be racing, not rollerball. If your faster make the pass without t-boning your opponent and taking him out. Cheap dirty move. Really makes Yamaha look bad for employing him.

APLMAN99 wrote:

The faster average lap time has already been disproven.....

Momus wrote:

How has it been disproven?

Even when you remove Ferrandis' crash lap time from the total Lawrence's average is still faster.