Federal trade agency proposes higher import fees on certain European motorcycles

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1/13/2017 5:47 PM

From the AMA:
Federal trade agency proposes higher import fees on certain European motorcycles

The Office of United States Trade Representative requested comments on Dec. 28 regarding its proposal to include tariffs on motorcycles imported from the European Union with an engine size between 51cc and 500cc in the E.U. - U.S. beef hormone trade dispute. The deadline to submit comments is Jan. 30.

The American Motorcyclist Association opposes the proposed tariff, because trade disputes residing within the boundaries of the agricultural industry should not be solved with trade sanctions levied against non-agricultural products.

Specifically, a 100 percent, or higher, tariff on these motorcycles is proposed. This will cause serious and potentially irreversible harm to American small- and medium-sized business owners selling the vehicles. Additionally, consumers will be denied access to certain models of competition and recreational motorcycles that contribute to the lifestyle and wellbeing of millions of American families.

Manufacturers that will be impacted: 1) Aprilla; 2) Beta; 3) BMW; 4) Ducati; 5) Fantic; 6) Gas Gas; 7) Husqvarna; 9) KTM; 10) Montesa; 11) Piaggio; 12) Scorpa; 13) Sherco; 14) TM; and 15) Vespa.

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1/13/2017 5:52 PM

Go here to comment:
amacycle/act-on-a-regulation?

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1/13/2017 5:54 PM

I wonder if KTM could skirt this by moving the rest of their production to India.........?

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1/13/2017 5:57 PM

This makes no sense because there are no american manufactures in this market. If there was, and they prove "damage" with in the current market condition, they would have a case. So! the finger would point to the Japanese buying a lobbyist to propose this garbage?

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1/13/2017 6:06 PM

Maybe Harley Davidson should resume mx production.

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1/13/2017 6:17 PM

This dates back to 1981 & it's a WTO Chess Game. This is a political move to pressure the EU to lift their ban.

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I ripped a start from Egypt and I was happy about that.

1/13/2017 6:23 PM

oldblood wrote:

Maybe Harley Davidson should resume mx production.

Rocket Rex Staton on an Aermacchi Harley
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The Aermacchi Harley's were built in Lago de Varese, Italy at what later became the Cagiva and Husqvarna Factory

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1/13/2017 6:25 PM

oldblood wrote:

Maybe Harley Davidson should resume mx production.

colorado2day wrote:

Rocket Rex Staton on an Aermacchi Harley
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The Aermacchi Harley's were built in Lago de Varese, Italy at what later became the Cagiva and Husqvarna Factory

And they came with modular self-destructing frames.

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I ripped a start from Egypt and I was happy about that.

1/13/2017 6:32 PM

Markee wrote:

This makes no sense because there are no american manufactures in this market. If there was, and they prove "damage" with in the current market condition, they would have a case. So! the finger would point to the Japanese buying a lobbyist to propose this garbage?

According to the post, it has to do with the ban on US beef due to hormones. The EU banned our beef because we jam it full of hormones. We now put a 100% tariff on goods from the countries that we see as the main culprits of imposing the ban.

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1/13/2017 6:33 PM

ATK?

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1/13/2017 6:34 PM

This is unfortunate. Anything that adds cost. This will accelerate the U.S. electric bike production and sales. But again, that will cost too.

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1/13/2017 6:40 PM
Edited Date/Time: 1/13/2017 6:47 PM

loftyair wrote:

This is unfortunate. Anything that adds cost. This will accelerate the U.S. electric bike production and sales. But again, that will cost too.

Racing will sound like attack of the killer tomatoes. I mean attack of the weed eaters.

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"If you are going through HELL, keep going."-Winston Churchill
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1/13/2017 6:44 PM

BAMX wrote:

According to the post, it has to do with the ban on US beef due to hormones. The EU banned our beef because we jam it full of hormones. We now put a 100% tariff on goods from the countries that we see as the main culprits of imposing the ban.

This could potentially be a real problem.
US farmers love hormones. Euros like American beef but not GMO products.
Get your new Euro ride soon before the shit hits the fan devil

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1/13/2017 6:54 PM

Markee wrote:

This makes no sense because there are no american manufactures in this market. If there was, and they prove "damage" with in the current market condition, they would have a case. So! the finger would point to the Japanese buying a lobbyist to propose this garbage?

BAMX wrote:

According to the post, it has to do with the ban on US beef due to hormones. The EU banned our beef because we jam it full of hormones. We now put a 100% tariff on goods from the countries that we see as the main culprits of imposing the ban.

colorado2day wrote:

This could potentially be a real problem.
US farmers love hormones. Euros like American beef but not GMO products.
Get your new Euro ride soon before the shit hits the fan devil

It has been going on for years. I believe that it started in the 80's. Whatever the case, Team Green is right, the WTO has their prints all over it. Why the Obama administration has chosen to push the issue in the 11th hour of their administration can be left up to you to decide.

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1/13/2017 7:13 PM

Wait i thought taxing imports was part of making America great again.

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1/13/2017 7:32 PM

Maybe it's time for Cobra to release its 250 race bike.

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"If you are going through HELL, keep going."-Winston Churchill
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1/13/2017 7:39 PM

ratonmacias wrote:

Wait i thought taxing imports was part of making America great again.

I would have to imagine that it should be the other way around. I can't imagine that it is cheaper to raise beef in Germany than it is in Iowa.

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1/13/2017 7:48 PM

ratonmacias wrote:

Wait i thought taxing imports was part of making America great again.

In a nut shell. When a american manufacture is producing products with a fair wage, paying taxes and complying to epa laws and what ever bullshit big Government says you need to do... At the very least the governing body needs to enforce trade laws that creates a competitive market that protects it's citizens businesses producing a GNP.

That has not been the case over many many years. The communist Chinese have subsidized production of endless products to flood markets to create damage to us/ to the US. I do think the way we tax imports can "check" the world from cheating the system.

I'm close to the steel industry and its imports. The Chinese cheat and manipulate every angle bottom line. Thats the make America great again part, lets race.. But on equal grounds. No more passing the whoops

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1/13/2017 7:51 PM

Wow.

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1/13/2017 8:16 PM

ratonmacias wrote:

Wait i thought taxing imports was part of making America great again.

He isn't president yet.... settle down.

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Don’t piss off the old people - the older they get the less “life in prison” is a deterrent for them!

2020.5 KTM 450 SXF FE
2006 KX250

1/13/2017 8:22 PM

They forgot to give liberals political donations.

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1/13/2017 8:33 PM

They did this back in the 80s also when Harley wanted to put a tariff on Japanese street bike 750cc and above because Harley was hanging on by a thread at the time. This was back when 750s were the norm so all the big four did was make all their 750 street bikes 700cc wink Now they are picking on the Euro manufactures instead of the Japanese.

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1/13/2017 9:18 PM

APLMAN99 wrote:

I wonder if KTM could skirt this by moving the rest of their production to India.........?

They want them to build everything here!

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1/13/2017 9:44 PM
Edited Date/Time: 1/13/2017 10:28 PM

There are several ways to look at this:
1. Would you pay double for a Euro mount ?
2. Could assembeled in America bypass the Tariff ?
3. Japenese bikes sales will increase as long as this just doesn't kill the whole momenteum the europeans have built in MX and off -road.
4. Will the Japanese raise prices?
5. Where does an EV fit into the displacement categories ?
6. Would the Euros allow final assembly in the US to bypass a Tariff ?
7. What would the rules be to bypass a tariff ?
8. Though not meant to promote euro motorcycles, since EVs dont fall into a displacement catagories, this could be the boost they need to succeed ?
9. The European automobile industry is too intertwined with the US industry so Autos are immune.
10. What else of the same monetary value does the US import from multiple European countries ?

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1/13/2017 9:55 PM

It's time for team Nami

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"If you are going through HELL, keep going."-Winston Churchill
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1/13/2017 10:10 PM

Build them in the United States by American workers? That would solve the problem and create jobs. I remember paying a tariff in 1984 on my new Honda VF-750F Interceptor, I wanted the bike so I bought it. Honda also had 700cc Interceptors in 1984 for less money to beat the tariff but they were much slower. Seriously, if it happens that would suck, but if you want one bad enough just buy it.

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1/13/2017 10:51 PM

The 450 class just became the 501 class.

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I ripped a start from Egypt and I was happy about that.

1/14/2017 12:46 AM

APLMAN99 wrote:

I wonder if KTM could skirt this by moving the rest of their production to India.........?

Or the UK # brexit!

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1/14/2017 3:36 AM

APLMAN99 wrote:

I wonder if KTM could skirt this by moving the rest of their production to India.........?

scottydogmx wrote:

Or the UK # brexit!

Haha thought that's what he meant....

Isn't this exactly what making America great again means? Up the tax on imports to encourage domestic.

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1/14/2017 5:05 AM

TeamGreen wrote:

The 450 class just became the 501 class.

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