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2/13/2018 12:14 PM
Edited Date/Time: 2/13/2018 12:15 PM

A good friends son is running a LL qualifier and wants to know if there is any benefit to running a 110/90/19 tire over a 100/90/19 on a 250F.

And obviously, which tire. I personally like the Starcross Mediums, but everyone is different. His son doesn’t like them.

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“Let the Good Times Roll”

2/13/2018 12:39 PM

Pirelli XtraX rear in a 110/90/19 w/ a Pro FIM 90/90/21 up front. The XtraX is a great tire with very good wear.

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2/13/2018 1:12 PM

b8res wrote:

Pirelli XtraX rear in a 110/90/19 w/ a Pro FIM 90/90/21 up front. The XtraX is a great tire with very good wear.

how is the 80/100 or does Pirelli not have that size? I've never ran Pirellis before but want to try them out next time I see a sale.

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2/13/2018 2:16 PM

b8res wrote:

Pirelli XtraX rear in a 110/90/19 w/ a Pro FIM 90/90/21 up front. The XtraX is a great tire with very good wear.

Thanks! I appreciate the feedback.

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“Let the Good Times Roll”

2/13/2018 2:32 PM

b8res wrote:

Pirelli XtraX rear in a 110/90/19 w/ a Pro FIM 90/90/21 up front. The XtraX is a great tire with very good wear.

Asimo wrote:

how is the 80/100 or does Pirelli not have that size? I've never ran Pirellis before but want to try them out next time I see a sale.

I’m biased towards Pirelli’s. The Dunlop’s just wear to quick and seem to loose their edge quickly. Not wanting to turn this into a tire debate as everyone has an opinion.
I run a XtraX and mid soft 32 and swap out depending on the track. I have found that the XtraX works as good as the mid soft 32 when the track is in morning prep is loose and tacky. Then later in the day once lines are worn in and it become more packed the XtraX really works great. Where the mid 32 just seems to roll more and not have as much bit. Just my .02. As for the front tire, I use the Pro FIM all year long, soft, sand, mid to hard pack it performs very well.

I’m a Vet racer riding a RM250 smoker...

Give them a go, I think you’ll be surprised.

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2/13/2018 2:55 PM

Metzeler Mid-Soft
100/90-19: $73.88
110/99-19: $76.88
Prices are from Rocky Mountain

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I ripped a start from Egypt and I was happy about that.

2/13/2018 3:10 PM

Racer111 wrote:

A good friends son is running a LL qualifier and wants to know if there is any benefit to running a 110/90/19 tire over a 100/90/19 on a 250F.

And obviously, which tire. I personally like the Starcross Mediums, but everyone is different. His son doesn’t like them.

X2 on the Starcross Medium

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Bret Bonham

2/13/2018 4:24 PM

There isn't a better all around tire than the MX3S. It works really really well on just about any type of track. Sand, mud, hardpack, loamy dirt, clay, you name it. And mine have been respectable in regards to wear. Not bad unless you ride purely hardpack and nothing else. Don't really understand complaints about wear with racing tires anyways. Starcross mediums would be a solid 2nd behind the Dunlops for me. Haven't tried Pirellis. Bridgestones intermediate tire offering is complete garbage.

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2/13/2018 5:33 PM

Dunlop MX3S all the way, especially on anything smaller than a 450 in regards to wear.

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James

2/13/2018 5:45 PM

Nothing is as predictable as a Bridgestone X30, and they wear like iron.

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2/13/2018 5:49 PM

quadzrulebro wrote:

Nothing is as predictable as a Bridgestone X30, and they wear like iron.

The front x30 is horrid. Rear, not so bad.
MX3S front or Starcross soft, both great.
Rear, Starcross medium is hard to beat.

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"Nothing happens until something moves"

2/13/2018 6:39 PM

Star cross 5. Great tire

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2/13/2018 6:44 PM

Sale on Bridgestone x10/20/30 at rmatv, 80 plus 25 rebate
55 a tire seems tgtbt

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2/13/2018 6:52 PM

quadzrulebro wrote:

Nothing is as predictable as a Bridgestone X30, and they wear like iron.

tempura wrote:

The front x30 is horrid. Rear, not so bad.
MX3S front or Starcross soft, both great.
Rear, Starcross medium is hard to beat.

I like the X30 way better than the old 403!

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2/14/2018 4:17 PM

I heard the Dunlop 783A is nothing short of being trout

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2/14/2018 5:27 PM

Starcross med offers the best durability with the least compromise for me personally. Though I am excited to try the Hoosiers if they are ever released.

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2/14/2018 5:33 PM

So basically any brand name tire then...

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2/14/2018 6:27 PM

quadzrulebro wrote:

Nothing is as predictable as a Bridgestone X30, and they wear like iron.

tempura wrote:

The front x30 is horrid. Rear, not so bad.
MX3S front or Starcross soft, both great.
Rear, Starcross medium is hard to beat.

Funny, I really like them both. I guess I just don’t know any better.

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2/14/2018 6:44 PM

tiddlermx23 wrote:

So basically any brand name tire then...

Well, to be fair, no one has mentioned Maxxis yet. lol

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“Let the Good Times Roll”

2/14/2018 6:44 PM

Starcross Medium allllllllll day. 20+ hours on my front and rear.

I run the bigger size for the 250/350 just because I like the feel of it.

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2/14/2018 6:50 PM

Dunlop 756RR

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2/14/2018 8:27 PM

quadzrulebro wrote:

Nothing is as predictable as a Bridgestone X30, and they wear like iron.

tempura wrote:

The front x30 is horrid. Rear, not so bad.
MX3S front or Starcross soft, both great.
Rear, Starcross medium is hard to beat.

quadzrulebro wrote:

Funny, I really like them both. I guess I just don’t know any better.

Similar to the MX52 front, which is one of the worst fronts I've used.

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"Nothing happens until something moves"

2/14/2018 10:04 PM

IMHO you need to run a 2.15 rim if you’re going to run a 110 on a 250. 250’s come stock with a 1.85” rear rim. 250 2-strokes and 450’s come with a 2.15” rim. Stock 250’s work great with a 100 tire especially if there are lots of ruts. Factory teams all run a 2.15” rim and most run 110 tires but at hard pack tracks you’ll see some riders opt for a 120 for more traction.

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2/15/2018 1:28 AM

tempura wrote:

The front x30 is horrid. Rear, not so bad.
MX3S front or Starcross soft, both great.
Rear, Starcross medium is hard to beat.

quadzrulebro wrote:

Funny, I really like them both. I guess I just don’t know any better.

tempura wrote:

Similar to the MX52 front, which is one of the worst fronts I've used.

Funny you should say that, I had an MX52 & the front kept tucking, changed to the X30 & it was solid. Some tyres just feel different to different people I suppose.

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2/15/2018 2:18 AM

DL wrote:

IMHO you need to run a 2.15 rim if you’re going to run a 110 on a 250. 250’s come stock with a 1.85” rear rim. 250 2-strokes and 450’s come with a 2.15” rim. Stock 250’s work great with a 100 tire especially if there are lots of ruts. Factory teams all run a 2.15” rim and most run 110 tires but at hard pack tracks you’ll see some riders opt for a 120 for more traction.

I agree. However husky and ktm 250f come with 2.15 rim. I like the 110 better than the 100 on my 250f.

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2/15/2018 2:56 AM

As mentioned previously, Michelin starcross 5 medium rear, soft front. They are really close to dunlop MX3S in performance and a hundred times better in terms of durability.

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2/15/2018 3:05 AM

Turbojez wrote:

As mentioned previously, Michelin starcross 5 medium rear, soft front. They are really close to dunlop MX3S in performance and a hundred times better in terms of durability.

I actually think the MX3S front wears about the same or a little better than the Starcross 5 soft front.
The Starcross soft front, medium rear combo is hard to beat, although the MX3S front is my favourite.. It's an awesome front.

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"Nothing happens until something moves"

2/15/2018 4:08 AM

I can’t believe how good maxxis inters hold up on the rear. I use Bridgestone x30 on the front, always seems good and better than the Dunlop’s. I would reccomend the maxxis to anyone for the tears, seriously for the price, It’s crazy how well the hook up and last. Try one you won’t be didsapinted.

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2/15/2018 4:14 AM

Pirelli MX32 outperforms Dunlop MX3S every day in my opinion.

Rubber in the MX3S is very stiff compared to Pirelli and the 110 Dunlop is to narrow. Front MX32 the knobbies are to tall on hard packed, feels like tire is floating. Rear just to narrow (good for 125 maybe) and stiff, starts skipping in flat corners when track goes from loamy to hard packed blue groove

So recommend Pirelli MX32 110/90-19 on 250f is ok, front should be 80/100-21. Pair rear MX32 with a Michelin mousse and you have a solution that is pullet proof and provides traction better than anything else. Feeling is outstanding compared to tube.

Run a 3mm Tube in front.

There is a reason Pirelli sells to us, what they race on in MXGP and AMA. Dunlop has different rubber compound for MXGP and AMA to get the tire softer with better traction to be on pair with for example Pirelli.

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2/15/2018 6:36 AM

Starcross for me.. Mainly run hare scrambles and last a good while. Just be cautious with air pressure. If you run 12-13 psi you will likely get a flat. I have to run 14-15 psi. That is what Michelin suggest also because of the soft side wall.

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