Fastest man on the planet (SX '11)?

Mspicer wrote:

The fastest doesn't always win, so it doesn't matter.

Jeff_Alessi wrote:

'The fastest man doesn't always win' I guess u could use that saying this year cause James proved that one, like u said, u can't read...

'The fastest man doesn't always win'

I guess u could use that saying this year cause James proved that one, like u said, u can't read much into this but it does serve a notice that everyone is really close, we already no that, from a racers standpoint the fastest man is js7 then villo then dungey mite have a tiny more speed then canard then u have reed, however, racing this year has been about the guy putting himself infront of as many of the others in the 5 off the start, James and villo being the only real passers of the group if those 2 get infront of the others it's pretty much over unless Stewart makes a mistake, I truly believe in consistency, so much that it could win the title for either dungey or villo this year, both have had dnf's but other then that have shown extreme talent to be there every single weekend, canard has been downright fast but this season has been so good for him, first year on a 450 n 3 wins is incredible, he will be the guy I call for the 2012 title sx, reed has probably been just as consistent but not winning enough to put him to the top, he had some bad luck and that's racing, I was bummed in Dallas when he got the bad end of a scary situation that could of caused, well u no. Just thank god. I believe James will still win the title, call me crazy but we don't have 2 guys racing for wins and being leaps better then third, right now making up points is easier when ur main points leader can get 5th and James can win well that's alot of points to make up in 1 race, even if he wins and villo gets 3rd that's 7 points? Right now james is the only one with the speed to win the remainder of races, the Rest of the guys r so close it's just gonna come down to the start. I really had a feeling reed was gonna get it but it's gonna be harder for him but there's a chance. My predictions r Stewart villo dungey canard reed, or atleast the top 3 will be those guys in some order.

Thats my morning post hope u enjoy, sorry it's so long I'm not a forum-er I'll try n shortn things up as I'm here more.

JB111 wrote:

All the talk of this title being used for James got me thinking, who is the fastest man this year? Obviously the results and series points...

All the talk of this title being used for James got me thinking, who is the fastest man this year?

Obviously the results and series points give us a great indication of overall success but who on average is the "Fastest" rider so far this season?

I took a quick trip to results.amasupercross.com to try to see what it could tell me.

Each 450 main event can be viewed with individual riders lap times with their fastest time being highlighted. I totaled up each of the top 5 riders (Stewy, Chad, Dung, Villy & Trey) fastest lap for all the mains & averaged the total times for all the events up to & including St Loius.

For James & Villy the total was only divided by 13 rounds as there was fastest time recorded for Jacksonville for either of them.

The results were about as close as this years points race, This is the result I got below-

James Stewart: 53.127
Chad Reed: 53.132
Trey Canard: 53.242
Ryan Dungey: 53:266
Ryan Villopoto: 53.613

Villopoto's time suffered with his Toronto struggles, still amazingly close though.

Please don't try to read too much into this, I didn't do it to bash anyones favorite rider, just thought it added another special facet to this great series.

BTW, I am so disappointed I am not going to Vegas this year.......

Jeff_Alessi wrote:

'The fastest man doesn't always win' I guess u could use that saying this year cause James proved that one, like u said, u can't read...

'The fastest man doesn't always win'

I guess u could use that saying this year cause James proved that one, like u said, u can't read much into this but it does serve a notice that everyone is really close, we already no that, from a racers standpoint the fastest man is js7 then villo then dungey mite have a tiny more speed then canard then u have reed, however, racing this year has been about the guy putting himself infront of as many of the others in the 5 off the start, James and villo being the only real passers of the group if those 2 get infront of the others it's pretty much over unless Stewart makes a mistake, I truly believe in consistency, so much that it could win the title for either dungey or villo this year, both have had dnf's but other then that have shown extreme talent to be there every single weekend, canard has been downright fast but this season has been so good for him, first year on a 450 n 3 wins is incredible, he will be the guy I call for the 2012 title sx, reed has probably been just as consistent but not winning enough to put him to the top, he had some bad luck and that's racing, I was bummed in Dallas when he got the bad end of a scary situation that could of caused, well u no. Just thank god. I believe James will still win the title, call me crazy but we don't have 2 guys racing for wins and being leaps better then third, right now making up points is easier when ur main points leader can get 5th and James can win well that's alot of points to make up in 1 race, even if he wins and villo gets 3rd that's 7 points? Right now james is the only one with the speed to win the remainder of races, the Rest of the guys r so close it's just gonna come down to the start. I really had a feeling reed was gonna get it but it's gonna be harder for him but there's a chance. My predictions r Stewart villo dungey canard reed, or atleast the top 3 will be those guys in some order.

Thats my morning post hope u enjoy, sorry it's so long I'm not a forum-er I'll try n shortn things up as I'm here more.

JB111 wrote:

All the talk of this title being used for James got me thinking, who is the fastest man this year? Obviously the results and series points...

All the talk of this title being used for James got me thinking, who is the fastest man this year?

Obviously the results and series points give us a great indication of overall success but who on average is the "Fastest" rider so far this season?

I took a quick trip to results.amasupercross.com to try to see what it could tell me.

Each 450 main event can be viewed with individual riders lap times with their fastest time being highlighted. I totaled up each of the top 5 riders (Stewy, Chad, Dung, Villy & Trey) fastest lap for all the mains & averaged the total times for all the events up to & including St Loius.

For James & Villy the total was only divided by 13 rounds as there was fastest time recorded for Jacksonville for either of them.

The results were about as close as this years points race, This is the result I got below-

James Stewart: 53.127
Chad Reed: 53.132
Trey Canard: 53.242
Ryan Dungey: 53:266
Ryan Villopoto: 53.613

Villopoto's time suffered with his Toronto struggles, still amazingly close though.

Please don't try to read too much into this, I didn't do it to bash anyones favorite rider, just thought it added another special facet to this great series.

BTW, I am so disappointed I am not going to Vegas this year.......

toroP wrote:

Try replacing fast lap with average lap from each main event, then average those. ...........since you enjoy accounting so much

JB111 wrote:

All the talk of this title being used for James got me thinking, who is the fastest man this year? Obviously the results and series points...

All the talk of this title being used for James got me thinking, who is the fastest man this year?

Obviously the results and series points give us a great indication of overall success but who on average is the "Fastest" rider so far this season?

I took a quick trip to results.amasupercross.com to try to see what it could tell me.

Each 450 main event can be viewed with individual riders lap times with their fastest time being highlighted. I totaled up each of the top 5 riders (Stewy, Chad, Dung, Villy & Trey) fastest lap for all the mains & averaged the total times for all the events up to & including St Loius.

For James & Villy the total was only divided by 13 rounds as there was fastest time recorded for Jacksonville for either of them.

The results were about as close as this years points race, This is the result I got below-

James Stewart: 53.127
Chad Reed: 53.132
Trey Canard: 53.242
Ryan Dungey: 53:266
Ryan Villopoto: 53.613

Villopoto's time suffered with his Toronto struggles, still amazingly close though.

Please don't try to read too much into this, I didn't do it to bash anyones favorite rider, just thought it added another special facet to this great series.

BTW, I am so disappointed I am not going to Vegas this year.......

TripleDigit wrote:

I guess that;s gotta be the best way to get the answer,the trouble is that by taking all the laps it's hard on Reed for example...

I guess that;s gotta be the best way to get the answer,the trouble is that by taking all the laps it's hard on Reed for example as you count a lap where he gets knocked off the track etc,at least this way you take a lap from each race where each guy has a decent run at a fast lap

I think most would agree that Stewart is the fastest,but results show he's a win or crash guy

personally I'd like to see Reed do it as a privateer and as a guy that's had the worst luck,as the times he has lost points is when he has been taken out it's not been his fault,the only other guy with that deal is Dungey,who I'd see as a worthy winner too

Jeff_Alessi wrote:

'The fastest man doesn't always win' I guess u could use that saying this year cause James proved that one, like u said, u can't read...

'The fastest man doesn't always win'

I guess u could use that saying this year cause James proved that one, like u said, u can't read much into this but it does serve a notice that everyone is really close, we already no that, from a racers standpoint the fastest man is js7 then villo then dungey mite have a tiny more speed then canard then u have reed, however, racing this year has been about the guy putting himself infront of as many of the others in the 5 off the start, James and villo being the only real passers of the group if those 2 get infront of the others it's pretty much over unless Stewart makes a mistake, I truly believe in consistency, so much that it could win the title for either dungey or villo this year, both have had dnf's but other then that have shown extreme talent to be there every single weekend, canard has been downright fast but this season has been so good for him, first year on a 450 n 3 wins is incredible, he will be the guy I call for the 2012 title sx, reed has probably been just as consistent but not winning enough to put him to the top, he had some bad luck and that's racing, I was bummed in Dallas when he got the bad end of a scary situation that could of caused, well u no. Just thank god. I believe James will still win the title, call me crazy but we don't have 2 guys racing for wins and being leaps better then third, right now making up points is easier when ur main points leader can get 5th and James can win well that's alot of points to make up in 1 race, even if he wins and villo gets 3rd that's 7 points? Right now james is the only one with the speed to win the remainder of races, the Rest of the guys r so close it's just gonna come down to the start. I really had a feeling reed was gonna get it but it's gonna be harder for him but there's a chance. My predictions r Stewart villo dungey canard reed, or atleast the top 3 will be those guys in some order.

Thats my morning post hope u enjoy, sorry it's so long I'm not a forum-er I'll try n shortn things up as I'm here more.

panic revver wrote:

I am surprised there aren't the usual posts from the usual posters when this subject is brought up. I guess the guys out there racing know...

I am surprised there aren't the usual posts from the usual posters when this subject is brought up. I guess the guys out there racing know who the fastest guy is.

Jeff_Alessi wrote:

'The fastest man doesn't always win' I guess u could use that saying this year cause James proved that one, like u said, u can't read...

'The fastest man doesn't always win'

I guess u could use that saying this year cause James proved that one, like u said, u can't read much into this but it does serve a notice that everyone is really close, we already no that, from a racers standpoint the fastest man is js7 then villo then dungey mite have a tiny more speed then canard then u have reed, however, racing this year has been about the guy putting himself infront of as many of the others in the 5 off the start, James and villo being the only real passers of the group if those 2 get infront of the others it's pretty much over unless Stewart makes a mistake, I truly believe in consistency, so much that it could win the title for either dungey or villo this year, both have had dnf's but other then that have shown extreme talent to be there every single weekend, canard has been downright fast but this season has been so good for him, first year on a 450 n 3 wins is incredible, he will be the guy I call for the 2012 title sx, reed has probably been just as consistent but not winning enough to put him to the top, he had some bad luck and that's racing, I was bummed in Dallas when he got the bad end of a scary situation that could of caused, well u no. Just thank god. I believe James will still win the title, call me crazy but we don't have 2 guys racing for wins and being leaps better then third, right now making up points is easier when ur main points leader can get 5th and James can win well that's alot of points to make up in 1 race, even if he wins and villo gets 3rd that's 7 points? Right now james is the only one with the speed to win the remainder of races, the Rest of the guys r so close it's just gonna come down to the start. I really had a feeling reed was gonna get it but it's gonna be harder for him but there's a chance. My predictions r Stewart villo dungey canard reed, or atleast the top 3 will be those guys in some order.

Thats my morning post hope u enjoy, sorry it's so long I'm not a forum-er I'll try n shortn things up as I'm here more.

panic revver wrote:

I am surprised there aren't the usual posts from the usual posters when this subject is brought up. I guess the guys out there racing know...

I am surprised there aren't the usual posts from the usual posters when this subject is brought up. I guess the guys out there racing know who the fastest guy is.

RaceFace wrote:

Yes. Stewart has shown that he often is the fastest rider at the race this year in qualifying and often with the fastest race lap. When...

Yes. Stewart has shown that he often is the fastest rider at the race this year in qualifying and often with the fastest race lap. When I point out that he would win a bunch more if he slowed down a bit and used his dome for something other than an impact cushion, I'm called a "hater". James should have at least 8 major titles (at least) now instead of the 5 he has. That isn't bashing, that is the facts. I think Stewart still is the fastest which shouldn't match up with being 4th in points.

Jeff_Alessi wrote:

'The fastest man doesn't always win' I guess u could use that saying this year cause James proved that one, like u said, u can't read...

'The fastest man doesn't always win'

I guess u could use that saying this year cause James proved that one, like u said, u can't read much into this but it does serve a notice that everyone is really close, we already no that, from a racers standpoint the fastest man is js7 then villo then dungey mite have a tiny more speed then canard then u have reed, however, racing this year has been about the guy putting himself infront of as many of the others in the 5 off the start, James and villo being the only real passers of the group if those 2 get infront of the others it's pretty much over unless Stewart makes a mistake, I truly believe in consistency, so much that it could win the title for either dungey or villo this year, both have had dnf's but other then that have shown extreme talent to be there every single weekend, canard has been downright fast but this season has been so good for him, first year on a 450 n 3 wins is incredible, he will be the guy I call for the 2012 title sx, reed has probably been just as consistent but not winning enough to put him to the top, he had some bad luck and that's racing, I was bummed in Dallas when he got the bad end of a scary situation that could of caused, well u no. Just thank god. I believe James will still win the title, call me crazy but we don't have 2 guys racing for wins and being leaps better then third, right now making up points is easier when ur main points leader can get 5th and James can win well that's alot of points to make up in 1 race, even if he wins and villo gets 3rd that's 7 points? Right now james is the only one with the speed to win the remainder of races, the Rest of the guys r so close it's just gonna come down to the start. I really had a feeling reed was gonna get it but it's gonna be harder for him but there's a chance. My predictions r Stewart villo dungey canard reed, or atleast the top 3 will be those guys in some order.

Thats my morning post hope u enjoy, sorry it's so long I'm not a forum-er I'll try n shortn things up as I'm here more.

panic revver wrote:

I am surprised there aren't the usual posts from the usual posters when this subject is brought up. I guess the guys out there racing know...

I am surprised there aren't the usual posts from the usual posters when this subject is brought up. I guess the guys out there racing know who the fastest guy is.

RaceFace wrote:

Yes. Stewart has shown that he often is the fastest rider at the race this year in qualifying and often with the fastest race lap. When...

Yes. Stewart has shown that he often is the fastest rider at the race this year in qualifying and often with the fastest race lap. When I point out that he would win a bunch more if he slowed down a bit and used his dome for something other than an impact cushion, I'm called a "hater". James should have at least 8 major titles (at least) now instead of the 5 he has. That isn't bashing, that is the facts. I think Stewart still is the fastest which shouldn't match up with being 4th in points.

panic revver wrote:

If IF IF LOL That's why they race. Funny that you are the one that responded to my post. Who would have thunk it?

RaceFace wrote:

Yes. Stewart has shown that he often is the fastest rider at the race this year in qualifying and often with the fastest race lap. When...

Yes. Stewart has shown that he often is the fastest rider at the race this year in qualifying and often with the fastest race lap. When I point out that he would win a bunch more if he slowed down a bit and used his dome for something other than an impact cushion, I'm called a "hater". James should have at least 8 major titles (at least) now instead of the 5 he has. That isn't bashing, that is the facts. I think Stewart still is the fastest which shouldn't match up with being 4th in points.

panic revver wrote:

If IF IF LOL That's why they race. Funny that you are the one that responded to my post. Who would have thunk it?

RaceFace wrote:

What is your problem? I knew who you had in mind. What are you talking about with the IFs? Aren't you a Stewart supporter? Does he...

What is your problem? I knew who you had in mind. What are you talking about with the IFs? Aren't you a Stewart supporter? Does he crash too much, or do you enjoy him crashing?

The post of yours I quoted hinted at the fact that us "bashers" were steering clear of this thread because we can't "hate" on it. I give Stewart credit in my post, admit he has been the fastest much of the time, and you still have a problem with what I say.

So your thought process says the fastest guy BELONGS in 4th place points? That is genius.

panic revver wrote:

I don't have a problem. Do you? Ya IF. IF he didn't crash he would be the points leader. Speaking of genius, you are the one...

I don't have a problem. Do you? Ya IF. IF he didn't crash he would be the points leader. Speaking of genius, you are the one that said IF. Check it out: "if he slowed down a bit..." If RV hadn't crashed out and missed a main he would have a huge lead. If CR didn't put that ummmmm block pass on JS and JS hadn't of taken him out, and the tuff block hadn't been there, and IF IF IF. See what I mean. Ya IF JS slowed he MIGHT be the points leader. Then again IF he slowed down he might not be.

Your thought process can't keep up with my thought process. No GENIUS I don't think the fastest guy belongs in 4th place. I do, however think that with just a little bit of good luck instead of bad luck he would be right up there in the points lead. But they have all had some bad luck haven't they?

And yes I knew that you would love to jump on this post and bash away and you knew I was talking about you but there are a lot of others. One tried the underhand slap of racing the outdoors and did you read JA's post. Reread it again if you did.

peelout wrote:

don't know, but he's currently working on locking in the new San Manuel sponsor for 2012 [img]http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/rap_sheet/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/211_kleenex.jpg[/img]

don't know, but he's currently working on locking in the new San Manuel sponsor for 2012